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Spaldeen

(219 posts)
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:28 PM Nov 2014

Does anyone have any news on this Iowa poll?

I was on Real Clear Politics and just spotted the latest poll for the Iowa poll is showing Ernst up big, and way outside of the other polls showing.

Is there anyone up in Iowa who can shed some light on this?




edited:

I noticed she was usualy up higher than the average in the other polls from that same company. Is the Des Moines Register a right leaning outfit?

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Does anyone have any news on this Iowa poll? (Original Post) Spaldeen Nov 2014 OP
Yeah vadermike Nov 2014 #1
Lies and propaganda. elleng Nov 2014 #3
Come on Iowa!! Spaldeen Nov 2014 #2
I saw it MFM008 Nov 2014 #4
I dont understand how a state that voted for the President twice can go red! Spaldeen Nov 2014 #5
The best pollster in Iowa. RandySF Nov 2014 #6
We have had polls all over the place rurallib Nov 2014 #7
Nice find! Spaldeen Nov 2014 #9
not sure - but I am betting we may find out. rurallib Nov 2014 #14
Yeh I noticed that on MSNBC all there latest polling is all favoring the republicans bigdarryl Nov 2014 #16
I have been thinking for some time now it is inconceivable so many races are so incredibly close Samantha Nov 2014 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Onlooker Nov 2014 #8
Three Other Polls Disagree tgards79 Nov 2014 #10
And check out the latest for all the Senate battleground races... tgards79 Nov 2014 #11
Yeah, it's total bullshit! demwing Nov 2014 #12
Yeah seems very convenient mvd Nov 2014 #18
Doesn't Braley have a huge edge in early voting? Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2014 #13
One poll ISUGRADIA Nov 2014 #15
One poll has her up by 7 points...... a kennedy Nov 2014 #17
That's Tom Harkin's seat. A fucking disgrace if we lose it! Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #20
Sickening isn't it......ugh... a kennedy Nov 2014 #22
Not a right leaning outfit Ell09 Nov 2014 #21
This is why we should not pay attention to polls Andy823 Nov 2014 #23

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
1. Yeah
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:30 PM
Nov 2014

It appears IA is gone now geeez ... Oh well Barack get out your veto pen and prepare the impeachment when he issues the exec order on immigration I think they will go apeshit, bring it !! I don't understand what is wrong with people !!

elleng

(130,908 posts)
3. Lies and propaganda.
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:36 PM
Nov 2014

Posted at DU: GOP canvasers telling Iowa Dems they can vote online

Friend of mine was told this while she was making calls today.

Is there no lie they won't stoop to? Led by liar in chief, Terry Branstad.

Maybe they should be disqualified. Should I call Chucky Todd and see what he thinks?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10512510

Spaldeen

(219 posts)
2. Come on Iowa!!
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:36 PM
Nov 2014

I'm going to get hives if I keep looking at these polls. I think I need to have a cup of coffee and just sit down and watch some movies in my free time until Tuesday.

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
4. I saw it
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:38 PM
Nov 2014

shes 7 points up allegedly.

Anything to show Obama how much the racists hate him. I hope my senators Cantwell and Murray bitch slap that hog castrator twice.

What is the mentality in some of these states coming to.

Spaldeen

(219 posts)
5. I dont understand how a state that voted for the President twice can go red!
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 08:41 PM
Nov 2014

I refuse to believe it! If you look at the polls from Des Moines Register they look like they always showed Ernst up more than the other poll places.

Does anyone here live in Iowa and know if that poll place is right leaning? I know nothing about Des Moines other than that it's in Iowa.

rurallib

(62,415 posts)
7. We have had polls all over the place
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 09:14 PM
Nov 2014

most very close.
I see no enthusiasm for Ernst at all while Braley has been drawing enthusiastic crowds. The Ernst camp is already getting ready for a recount. Ergo, they do not believe they are winning big.

ETA - the DMR was once one of the most respected papers in the country. That was 45 years ago. Today they are another spoke in the Gannet corporate wheel. They do plenty of hacking for the right.

Spaldeen

(219 posts)
9. Nice find!
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 09:30 PM
Nov 2014

It's good to hear from someone down on the ground.

I found the article you talked about at TPM. Why else would someone gear up for a recount? Who pays for a recount in Iowa?

rurallib

(62,415 posts)
14. not sure - but I am betting we may find out.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 11:18 AM
Nov 2014

it is funny that just before election day we are getting sudden swings across the US to the repubs according to polls - Arkansas, South Dakota, Kentucky, I think even Georgia and Colorado. Methinks it is too convenient.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
19. I have been thinking for some time now it is inconceivable so many races are so incredibly close
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 01:46 AM
Nov 2014

Close meaning virtual ties or within the margin of error. It really kind of smells like the Republicans were trying to sell that concept in case they needed to "step in" at the last minute in a few strategic places to "tidy up" the final count.

Sam

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tgards79

(1,415 posts)
10. Three Other Polls Disagree
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 09:33 PM
Nov 2014

YouGOv, FOX and CNN all did Iowa polls at the exact same time, and they showed: Braley + 1, Ernst +1, Ernst +2. The Register's poll is clearly an outlier.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
12. Yeah, it's total bullshit!
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 07:48 AM
Nov 2014

Here's the only poll that matters now:
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/10/29/democrat-bruce-braley-whopping-15-points-early-voters-iowa-senate-race.html

Its the early voting #s for Iowa, and it shows Braley up by 15

I think Joni Ernst in IA is this year's Sharron Angle. In 2010, the RCP average from 10/15-10/31 had Angle up by 3, and Reid losing in 6 out of 6 polls. Reid went on to win by 5.6 points!

Watch the early voting for the best idea where the race is going.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
18. Yeah seems very convenient
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 06:44 PM
Nov 2014

A couple polls right before the election suddenly having 7 point leads - wondering about the motives here. Maybe voter suppression. If we GOTV, we can prove all these pollsters wrong. I would love it.

Ernst would be a very, very bad Senator. Come on, Braley!

ISUGRADIA

(2,571 posts)
15. One poll
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 02:11 PM
Nov 2014

One poll had him with a 15% lead in early voting but that's fairly useless since the margin of error is about 6%.

a kennedy

(29,661 posts)
17. One poll has her up by 7 points......
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 04:33 PM
Nov 2014

Joni Ernst has charged to achieve a 7-point lead over Democrat Bruce Braley in a new Iowa Poll, which buoys the GOP's hope that an Iowa victory will be the tipping point to a Republican takeover of the U.S. Senate.

Ernst, a state senator and military leader, enjoys 51 percent support among likely voters. That's a majority, and it's her biggest lead in the three Iowa Polls conducted this fall. Braley, a congressman and trial lawyer, gets 44 percent, according to The Des Moines Register's final Iowa Poll before Tuesday's election.

"This race looks like it's decided," said J. Ann Selzer, who conducted the poll for the Register. "That said, there are enormous resources being applied to change all that."



The Huffington Post | By Andrew Hart

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
20. That's Tom Harkin's seat. A fucking disgrace if we lose it!
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 02:33 AM
Nov 2014

I haven't been this upset since we lost Feingold's seat to that asshole Ron Johnson!!

Ell09

(100 posts)
21. Not a right leaning outfit
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 06:26 AM
Nov 2014

An Iowan here to try to answer a few questions. I don't find the Des Moines Register to be particularly partisan and it's Editorial board endorsed Bruce Braley in this race and refused to endorse either Gubernatorial candidate. Unfortunately, they did endorse Romney in 2012, so it's not all great from that paper.

As for the poll itself, this is the second poll from the Register to come out with Ernst up big. The first was a month or so ago and had Ernst up 6 which was a total shocker at the time and occurred at a time when other polls were showing the race anywhere from Braley +2 to Ernst +2. In the day following the Register poll, other polls came out showing a much tighter race.

Flash forward to now and again the Register comes out with a poll showing Ernst up even more at +7 while other polls taken during the same polling period are showing Ernst +2 to Braley +1.

I don't believe it's malicious, but I do believe these polls hurt. So many more Iowans are seeing these Des Moines Register polls and it creates an environment where the average person believes that Ernst is going to win comfortably. It could very easily hurt our turnout on Election day as the average voter isn't going to Real Clear Politics (or any other similar site) to see that many other pollsters forecast a tight race.

The "farmer from Iowa" quote from Braley has really, really hurt him. This is really similar to Mitt Romney's "47%" quote in terms of the damage it is doing to him (not saying it's justified, just that it's being repeated in 4/5 Ernst ads, so it has traction). In my opinion, the Democrats have done a terrible job of handling this gaffe as it's been common knowledge forever. If they couldn't figure out how to minimize the damage, they should have tried to run someone else.

I don't want to be a downer to the community here at DU, but I feel pessimistic about Braley's chances to keep Harkin's seat blue for another six years. One of the big, lesser talked about, hurdles for Braley to overcome is that we have a terrible Governor by the name of Terry Branstad who is projected to win by anywhere from 18-23 pts. His opponent, Jack Hatch, has basically thrown in the towel and hasn't had any advertising on TV forever (largely due to lack of funds). This means that, in order to win the Senate race, we are going to have to rely on ticket splittters which is always a dicey proposition. For what it's worth the same DM Register poll that just had Ernst up 7, had Branstad up 24 which was 4-6 points more than other polls by other outlets done during the same time. If there's some hope for Braley (and I do think there is some) it's that this poll sure looks like it over sampled Republicans or was just an outlier.

It's really sad what Iowa is becoming politically as we will likely re-elect Branstad, re-elect Rep. Steve King (not my district, but one of the worst reps in Congress, Google him if unfamiliar), and hand the Senate over to the Republican's by electing a fringy Tea Party type Republican in Joni Ernst.

Finally, I'd just like to say that I wish Senator Harkin either would have stayed on for another term or left one term earlier so that his seat would be filled during a Presidential election. I was unaware (or forgot) about the history of Democrats struggling in mid-term elections and you'd think that Harkin would have been savvy enough to retire at a time where it was most likely that his seat would remain with his party. That said, this seat seemed like a lock for Braley 6 plus months ago and everything just kind of fell off the rails for him.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
23. This is why we should not pay attention to polls
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 11:19 AM
Nov 2014

Polls, like the media, are slanted towards republicans in order to try and make people stay home because the "polls" who it's areas in the bag for republicans, and sadly it works on some voters. They simply give up and stay home. Sam with all the negativity on discussion boards, they simply want voters to be so depressed with their "doom and gloom" crap that they won't vote, and may even try and tell others it not worth wasting their time.

Republicans know when democrats get out and vote, the GOP will lose. They will everything in the power to prevent that. The polls and the media are not reliable.

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