The Roosevelt Party - a party within the Democratic Party that actually champions liberal ideas.

[EEO]

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Whose candidates explain them clearly and are proud to stand by them during an election and once elected. And I can't think of a better name than the Roosevelt Party. Such a party should exist. It would force the Democratic Party to have a conversation about what its true principles are.

UPDATE:

demwing has created a poll in GD to test the water for a

Populist Reform Group:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025787284

Please go over to GD for a moment to give your feedback.

[CanonRay]

1. Count me in.

[Thinkingabout]

2. Are you trying to start a Democrat Tea Party named Roosevelt Party?

[EEO]

6. Sort of. But this one will be the opposite in just about every other way.

Just want to throw the idea out there and see if it made sense. The GOP has been forced to take notice of the Tea Party. The Roosevelt Party (or FDR Party, as others have suggested) would be forced to take notice of liberals, who have been betrayed over and over again. We could brand liberal Democratic politicians "Roosevelt Democrats" or "FDR Democrats." The Democratic Party must be cleansed of the conservatives in moderate liberal clothing. Creating a third party won't work in anyone's favor but the Republicans, so it has to be an internal conflict.

[Thinkingabout]

21. How would you feel if the party purged the liberals?

[Enthusiast]

26. If they purged liberals, they might as well just call themselves Republicans.

Because, for all intents and purposes, that is what they would be.

[Martin Eden]

3. FDR Party:

Fuck
Dem
Republicans

[EEO]

7. I may like that better.

Start sorting the conservative Democrats in moderate liberal clothing from the FDR Democrats. It's time for a civil war within the party or the political lever will keep taking us to the extreme right.

[roguevalley]

11. I'm in

[TheProgressive]

4. We do need to distinguish real democrats vs. what we have now...

Roosevelt Party, FDR Party, Progressive Democrats of America Party...

A good Party name would be mandatory.

[EEO]

41. Roosevelt Party acknowledges the big three Roosevelts.

[hollowdweller]

5. What would be the liberal ideas?

I like Bernie Sanders idea of making Election Day a national Holiday.

End tax breaks for outsourcing??

Double time for hours worked over 40?

Eventual repeal of Taft Hartley?

Eventual reinstitution of Glass Steagle?

Mandatory sick and vacation leave.

Expand Family Medical Leave act to make time off paid?

[EEO]

8. All of that.

As well as Universal Healthcare, severe cost cutting in higher education tuition and fees, expansion of Social Security benefits, decreasing wasteful military spending where we give the Department of Defense or Joint Chiefs the authority to refuse money for projects the military doesn't need or want and send it back to Congress. Among other common sense ideas.

[roguevalley]

12. 80 percent tax on rich down from ninety percent under dwe

[rustbeltvoice]

10. reads like John L. Lewis, or the Reuther Brothers

[grasswire]

9. how about the FDR-LBJ party

Don't forget the great liberal strides that LBJ achieved.

[roguevalley]

13. agreed

[rustbeltvoice]

14. Yes, Johnson, our last liberal president,

who defeated a Republican [Goldwater] that the country considered an extremist beyond the rational spectrum of politics; and now if he were alive [and held his beliefs from then] would be the most liberal Republican on the scene.

[bread_and_roses]

16. "hey hey LBJ / how many kids did you kill today?"

No. Not LBJ. Being "liberal" on the domestic front does not give you a pass to slaughter overseas.

[EEO]

27. Yeah. LBJ's legacy will forever be tarnished by Vietnam, which is unfortunate.

[onecaliberal]

15. Yes, that is precisely what we need.

[jtuck004]

17. Bernie Sanders suggested a 50 state org to get people behind Progressive principles.

Not another party, because that would just get in the way. If it is attached to a party it is worthless. And if that party is so broken you need one, you probably don't need the party it tries to attach to. ((Seems if one wants to fix their party they should fix their party, not run away and start a new committee.). Besides, it would be a waste of time to join any broken org.

Leaves a lot more flexibility and power.

I will stand with Bernie or those that do this if it happens.

[Thinkingabout]

23. Why not starting the Progressive or Socialist party?

[jtuck004]

28. No point. Just need an org. We will have our ideas heard and considered without the baggage.

That adds a lot of overhead one doesn't need, There are already a dozen or so out there, most self-interested and doing a crappy job, don't need another.

The people are what's important. An org, kinda like a union or neighborhood action group would organize, would be far more powerful. With a few million those who want to win will listen.

[Thinkingabout]

30. It takes work, jump on it, anything worth having has to have some

labor pains. The Green and Libertarian party have launched.

[jtuck004]

32. Bernie already has...

http://billmoyers.com/episode/bernie-sanders-breaking-big-moneys-grip-elections/

Don't need a party, just an org. Like The Union.

[Martin Eden]

29. Without Instant Runoff Voting ...

... the vote on the Left would be split, putting even more Rethugs in office.

[EEO]

36. Yup. Has to be a slow and methodical reworking of the party from within.

No third parties

[whereisjustice]

18. Much needed, way over due. DNC has buried FDR and by the looks of

Ferguson, they are doing the same to MLK.

[EEO]

47. They are helping the conservatives turn back the clock.

[demwing]

19. If you included both Roosevelts you'd have a powerful Populist reform movement

that had crossover appeal that this Liberal could live with.

TR gave us trust busting and regulatory actions, land conservations and environmental protections, and the defining of the bully pulpit. He should have been a Democrat.

We all know what FDR did for the country. The Roosevelt family showed us that wealth carries both privilege and responsibility.

IMO, the 2 Roosevelt presidencies did more for this country than any others, with the arguable exceptions of Washington, Lincoln, and LBJ.

[Aldo Leopold]

20. Love it. I'm in!

[RiverLover]

22. I'm in too! Have been an FDR dem for a while now. Roosevelt dem would work also!

[proReality]

24. I like it.

But I have my doubts the party would get the massive coverage the Teabaggers got.

[semanticwikiian]

25. K&R Party

King & Roosevelt Party
Kick & Recommend?

[awoke_in_2003]

39. Kick and recommended...

welcome to DU

[ALBliberal]

31. why not include Eleanor Roosevelt as.well

This.powerful trio of Roosevelts that.emcompass women's rights social progression amd envoronmental causes. I'm in. Unlike the tra party the Roosevelt.party ideas principles and proclamations are.connected to.three smart.heroic Americans that demonstrably.changed.our nation.for.the better.

[ALBliberal]

34. Are there policies that Roosevelt championed that work against modern African Americans? Did FDR

Work to disenfranchise black voters? Female voters? Why can't Roosevelt policies be applied to our current expanded electorate? Yes the camps for Asian.Amercans were.wrong. Will we find a completely pure ideological family to base our sights? No. But FDR is pretty damn close.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

33. The "Roosevelt" Party would have never elected a black man President

...which is exactly why the Democratic party had trouble in this election. It certainly wasn't the unemployment rate, gas prices, inflation, the deficit, or anything else. The entire exercise was the Republicans trying to give racists who would otherwise vote for Democrats, the excuse they needed to vote against the black man (again). (Ebola - the African disease come to take our women.) And Democratic candidates in those areas trying to "distance" themselves from his blackness, while not actually disagreeing with any of his policies.

No, sorry. The rest of the party is not going to let itself be captured like Republicans were captured by the Teabaggers. And you should take off your rose-colored glasses about Roosevelt. The man put tens of thousands of law abiding US-born citizens in work-camps, and happily allied themselves with southern Senators who were openly in favor of lynching.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[EEO]

40. There was more than one Roosevelt.

And the Democratic Party wouldn't have a choice if we were half as motivated as the teabaggers, but were armed with facts and knowledge of policy and how the government actually works.

[demwing]

35. For DUers that want populist reform

I've created a poll in GD to test the water for a Populist Reform Group:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025787284

Please come over to GD for a moment to give your feedback.

[Martin Eden]

38. I support a group to discuss populist reforms within the Democratic Party

Thanks for initiative and the poll.

[santamargarita]

37. And that's what we should be doing.

[bvar22]

42. In 1966 I joined the Democratic Party for these values:

In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be[font size=3] established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.[/font]

Among these are:

*The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

*The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

*The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

*The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

*The right of every family to a decent home;

*The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

*The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

*The right to a good education.

All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.

[font size=3]America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens.[/font][/font]---FDR, SOTU, 1944

Please note that the above are stipulated as Basic Human RIGHTS to be protected by our government,
and NOT as COMMODITIES to be SOLD to Americans by For Profit Corporations.

My vote and support WILL go to whoever BEST embodies these values.
I am too old and tired to again support the Least of the Worst again.
Let the chips fall where they may.

[BrotherIvan]

45. ^^^^^^^That right there^^^^^^^^^^

[Onlooker]

43. Good idea, but wrong name

A Roosevelt Party would appeal mostly to people 70 and above. He represents a different era. We are forward looking, and a Roosevelt Party should go by a different name, something that captures a modern version of his ideals. I would bet that most younger people don't know who Roosevelt is and would be reluctant to embrace a hero of their great grandparents.

[EEO]

44. People tend to have a certain romanticism for the past.

That is powerful.

[grahamhgreen]

46. Kick