2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRemember when the wingnuts were worshipping Putin?
Because he was making Obama sort of look bad??
Looks like Putin took his eye off the ball and got punked.
doc03
(35,336 posts)dimwits were wanting to ship our gas over to Europe to put the hurts on Putin. Looks like the sanctions and the market took care of it.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)in one of the 2012 election debates. President Obama just laughed at him. Now he agrees with Romney.
However the Tea Partiers love them some Putin.He symbolizes all their dreams come true.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)President Obama, now, agrees with Romney.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)in their attitude to Russia.
Did you see Obama's speech at the UN where he said that Russia was the greatest threat in the world, worse than Ebola or ISIL?
Link?
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)I'm on a smartphone right now so not easy to get a link. But it was a big speech, it should be easy to find.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I think you might want to read it ... I don't think it approaches what you claim.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)that supports your claim.
I read it three times and could find anything approaching your claim.
Thanks.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)then ISIS.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)that deserved the worlds (urgent) attention.
That is far, far, far from your claim.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)as two of the worst things in the world.
How do you think the Russians felt about that.
Plus he basically compared them to the Nazis.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)My Romney-support translator must be on the blink.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)you're not going to see it but others might.
IMO something drastic changed in President Obama's foreign policy between his first term and second term. Many will say that events just happened but I think there's more to it than that. Perhaps I'm in the minority here on DU with that opinion.
brush
(53,778 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Who were the snipers in Maidan Square?
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Romney was scaremongering at the time. Russia didn't become relevant until it annexed Crimea. And then, it became clear that their relevancy is meager at best, given how utterly incompetent Putin has been since.
Igel
(35,307 posts)Looks good now, but most politicians are short-term thinkers because they need to face the next election with short-term-thinking voters.
Putin has some good points. He has many bad points. Those who celebrated Putin as "all good" were few and far between, to be honest--but making fun of them or just those that refuse to use a 3-foot-wide brush for detail work for letting facts reset their attitudes is a foolish proposition. It makes us feel good but makes it less likely that facts will get in the way of changing minds in the future. In short, it's another short-term thinking ploy.
This, in a world that shows no signs of coming to an end by late spring 2015.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)IIRC the drop in oil prices helped the economy during Reagan.
Will be better than the payroll tax cut here. Saving me 80 bucks a month right now.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Where are they now??!!
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,327 posts)Maybe he should wrestle his imploding economy.
lastlib
(23,227 posts)Puppy love at first sight.......
Rozlee
(2,529 posts)Putin looked into Bush's ears and saw light at the other end.
lastlib
(23,227 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)And mocking the whole ten dimensional chess meme....
Heh.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)I'm waiting for them to claim Victoria Nuland herself went to Saudi Arabia and turned the spigots there from "Medium" to "High".
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)that Putin have the trust of the people to be president.
Behind the Aegis
(53,956 posts)More than they have provided cover for this POS.
66 dmhlt
(1,941 posts)Why wouldn't they? They remind them so much of Dubya et al
He tanked their nation's economy, he started an illegal war against a sovereign nation and he has an agenda against gays.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)means swinging your dick around.