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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 09:59 AM Mar 2015

Martin O’Malley, in Veiled Jab at Hillary Clinton, Derides Politics of ‘Triangulation’

Martin O’Malley, the former Maryland governor who is likely to seek the Democratic nomination for president in 2016, took a veiled shot at a potential rival, Hillary Rodham Clinton, in a speech in South Carolina on Saturday, criticizing the politics of “triangulation” that have historically been associated with the Clintons.

“The most fundamental power of our party and our country is the power of our moral principles,” Mr. O’Malley said, according to a transcript of his remarks provided by an aide.

In words that echoed those of Senator Barack Obama when he battled Mrs. Clinton in 2007 for the Democratic nomination, Mr. O’Malley added: “Triangulation is not a strategy that will move America forward. History celebrates profiles in courage, not profiles in convenience.”

Mr. O’Malley’s comments came at the Democratic Party’s John Spratt Issues Conference in Myrtle Beach, and South Carolina is a crucial early primary state that Mrs. Clinton lost to Mr. Obama. Mr. O’Malley has in the past declined to contrast himself with Mrs. Clinton.

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Martin O’Malley, in Veiled Jab at Hillary Clinton, Derides Politics of ‘Triangulation’ (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2015 OP
I thought that comment was about republicans Renew Deal Mar 2015 #1
Republicans triangulate? merrily Mar 2015 #3
Do you really need to ask? Renew Deal Mar 2015 #14
Well if it was a jab it was a good one Kalidurga Mar 2015 #2
The 1% and the plutocrats are very happy with the results so far. They are not the ones merrily Mar 2015 #4
But, they are insane Kalidurga Mar 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Mar 2015 #6
The history that they know is that the 1% wins. merrily Mar 2015 #7
This is all completely true Kalidurga Mar 2015 #10
Some yes, mostly symbolically. Compared to deaths among the 99%, it's negligible. merrily Mar 2015 #11
Yes Kalidurga Mar 2015 #12
Wars, illness, starvation, poor nutrition, a great variety. merrily Mar 2015 #13
Very "veiled jab" BlueMTexpat Mar 2015 #8
NYTimes trying to pretend there is a fight between O'Malley and HRC. FSogol Mar 2015 #9

Renew Deal

(81,871 posts)
1. I thought that comment was about republicans
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 10:01 AM
Mar 2015

The rest of the speech was. The NY Times is miscarachterizing his comments.

Renew Deal

(81,871 posts)
14. Do you really need to ask?
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 11:50 PM
Mar 2015

And this years class is as bad as any.

Paul on vaccines and pretty much everything else when asked directly.
Rubio on immigration
Christie on many things. Recently the pig farm issue.
Walker on many things including evolution recently.
Romney on everything.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
2. Well if it was a jab it was a good one
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 10:13 AM
Mar 2015

not really sure if I care who was jabbed at this point. The PTB need to be shaken up in both parties. We need new people and some new ideas because what was that definition of insanity again?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
4. The 1% and the plutocrats are very happy with the results so far. They are not the ones
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 10:40 AM
Mar 2015

who are insane.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
5. But, they are insane
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 10:43 AM
Mar 2015

eventually the empire will fall. The writing is on the wall. I can't imagine they do not see this as I see them ramping up their rhetoric and I see more hateful things coming from their side every day. They must know history if nothing else. However, the leadership on our side must know that they need to come up with some real solutions instead of keeping on handing out bandaids.

Response to Kalidurga (Reply #5)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. The history that they know is that the 1% wins.
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 10:54 AM
Mar 2015

All they have to do is manage to stay in the 1% and they'll be fine, no matter who is in charge in theory. They're like that toy that ends up right side up no matter what is done to it.

Such was the case with Jefferson, Washington, Hancock, etc. The got rich and powerful under the king, and they convinced poor farmers to fight a battle for them so they could get more rich and more powerful.

The identity of individuals in the 1% may change, but whoever is in the 1% wins. After the Russian revolution, maybe the Tsar's family and the nobles lost everything, but, when the dust settled, other plutocrats were in charge.

The 99% outnumber the 1%. (The same is true, even if you go 80%-20% or 90% -10%). Yet the majority keeps allowing the minority to rule them. The plutocrats have no incentive to change. (Doling out some good words or, if push comes to shove, some small and perhaps temporary concessions is not change. It's what plutocrats always do. Hell, even King John signed the Magna Carta.)

The majority has loads of incentive, yet it doesn't change.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
12. Yes
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 12:39 AM
Mar 2015

the 1% kill us by starvation I think that is their favorite, hypothermia, fighting against single payer, and lots of other ways. They cause widespread depression among the poor and then blame us/them for it. Yes they have a good gig going but like any system if it gets too heavy at the top it will crash, I just hope I am out of the way when it does.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
13. Wars, illness, starvation, poor nutrition, a great variety.
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 12:54 AM
Mar 2015

When one group of 1%ers get toppled, another one takes its place.

Usually, when systems get toppled, the lives of the masses have been brutal and they are starting to trace their plight to the ruling class. Smart governments don't let the worst happen to the masses. Bread and Circus, New Deal.

The more things change.....

BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
8. Very "veiled jab"
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 12:59 PM
Mar 2015

except in the eyes of those who want to present fellow Democrats as opposed to Hillary ....

While there is truth in the statement, hyperbolic stretch in the headline, IMO.

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