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edcantor

(325 posts)
Sun May 27, 2012, 12:49 PM May 2012

The Obama-Romney battlefield: Electoral college ensures it's weird

There are 50 states on The Times’ cool, new "predict a winner" interactive map. But only about 10 of those states really matter for this presidential election, thanks to the electoral college. In a sea of blue and red, these states are gray — and that means up for grabs.

It is one of the oddest features of American democracy. Presidential candidates need only win 270 electoral votes — not the popular vote — to become the leader of the free world.

Electoral votes are awarded state by state, based on congressional representation. So a series of narrow wins in enough states beats huge losses in the others.

INTERACTIVE: Predict a winner



Map and more at:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-electoral-college-10-states-matter-20120525,0,90732.story
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The Obama-Romney battlefield: Electoral college ensures it's weird (Original Post) edcantor May 2012 OP
The electoral college must go DonCoquixote May 2012 #1
At the least, they could distribute the electoral votes proportionally, according to each states... phleshdef May 2012 #2
Actually, Sir, it Was Meant To Keep Selecting The President Out Of The Hands Of The Mob The Magistrate May 2012 #3
I can't really see any rationale for it either edcantor May 2012 #4
Spare a moment for us Californians Retrograde May 2012 #5
The EC needs to go however dinopipie May 2012 #6
They actually do that - TBF May 2012 #7

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
1. The electoral college must go
Sun May 27, 2012, 01:09 PM
May 2012

It was meant to ensure that a candidate would have to speak to everyone, but now, it has become a means to ensure that only a few states matter; I say this as someone in Florida, a state that has suffered because the GOP have made sure to send in lawyers, guns and money to keep us locked down.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
2. At the least, they could distribute the electoral votes proportionally, according to each states...
Sun May 27, 2012, 01:13 PM
May 2012

...popular vote. But I'm all for just scrapping it. Its definately unnecessary.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
3. Actually, Sir, it Was Meant To Keep Selecting The President Out Of The Hands Of The Mob
Sun May 27, 2012, 01:16 PM
May 2012

As gentlemen in those days referred to all who were not....

 

edcantor

(325 posts)
4. I can't really see any rationale for it either
Sun May 27, 2012, 01:39 PM
May 2012

Of course, I can live with it, and really would prefer an auditable paper based system of voting, where no-one can tamper with the machines, where people can vote anytime in the first 7 days of November, and where people are fined .1% extra in income taxes for not having voted. A corporation would be limited to giving only the same amount that a human being can give to a candidate, and the same amount to any one PAC.

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
5. Spare a moment for us Californians
Sun May 27, 2012, 04:07 PM
May 2012

A.K.A. the Democratic party's ATM. We're expected to vote for Obama in November, so the only attention we get is being asked for $$$. Obama swooped in and out for his 3rd fundraising trip to my neighborhood last week (betcha you didn't hear about it - no press allowed): 2 $35K+ dinners and a less pricey event where tickets started at $250. Now, there's no way I'm going to vote for a Republican come November, but it would be nice if candidates did occasionally spare some time for the country's most populous state.

But as long as the constitution requires 3/4 of the states to support any changes we're stuck with a system that favors the less populated states.

 

dinopipie

(84 posts)
6. The EC needs to go however
Mon May 28, 2012, 07:42 AM
May 2012

with that being said, a Democrat can win a national election without winning a single southern state, crunch the EC numbers by state, yet a Pub cannot win without winning a whole bunch of Blue States.

IMHO the Democratic Party needs to stop wasting their time and resources on lost causes and bolster their strongholds.

TBF

(32,060 posts)
7. They actually do that -
Mon May 28, 2012, 07:50 AM
May 2012

and I have to believe the other side does as well. Certain battleground states will garner much more attention (money and volunteer activity) than others.

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