Nearly Half Of Americans Would Vote For A Socialist For President! US moves into the 21st Century!

[sabrina 1]

There goes the hope for those who tried to denigrate Sanders by using a word they still believe means what they think it means, that it will have any impact.

People tried to tell them so many times. But some people are so out of touch with our changing world, there is simply no persuading them that time has passed them by.



Now we have some polls showing why their attempts to smear Bernie with a word distorted during the McCarthy era has simply had no effect at all:

Nearly Half Of Americans Would Vote For A Socialist For President

Not quite half of Americans -- 47 percent-- say they would consider voting for a socialist for president, if the person were well-qualified and nominated by the voter's party, according to a new Gallup survey.

Democrats offer the most support for socialism with 59 percent saying they would vote for a socialist candidate. Independents are split down the middle, and Republicans are the least supportive with just 26 percent saying they'd vote for a socialist.

Americans ages 18 to 29 are most open to the idea of a socialist with nearly 7 in 10 stating they'd vote for one. Older generations are less inclined to do so.

It's a different world. People understand the word Socialist and associate it with countries like Norway and other European nations. The young especially have a positive attitude towards socialism, viewing countries in Europe as far more advanced re Education, eg, and Health Care than this country.

A Gallup study from April shows Americans have shifted their support toward socialist-type policies, with 52 percent of Americans now saying the government should redistribute wealth by placing higher taxes on the rich -- the greatest support for wealth redistribution that has been measured since 1940.

Of all the candidates who have entered the 2016 presidential race thus far, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who is running for the Democratic nomination, is the only socialist -- more specifically, a self-described democratic socialist.

OWS was the seed that was sewn BY young people openly talking about the effects of predatory Capitalism on the American people and providing the lingo to make it easy for the average person to express their feelings about the terrible effects of the current corrupt system we are living under.

And if they were the seed Bernie is the fruit who, unlike some of his opponents, was well aware that Socialism was not a scary word to voters especially the ones he aims to attract.

So to those who told me 'no one is going to vote for a Socialist in this country' all I can say, yes they will and they HAVE.

So much for the Corporate Media's 'tactic' of always referring to Bernie as the 'Socialist'. Just keep on doing it, it seems to be helping! Lol!

[aspirant]

1. Slowly Socialist and Socialism

is becoming the rage. Bernie is getting free ads every time these silly surrogates spray this word around.

The Clinton's are stuck in 20th century politics and now there's no where to go.

[Enthusiast]

2. Kicked and recommended to the Max!

[Scuba]

3. At the same time, "capitalist" is becoming a dirty word. I'm waiting for the headline ...

"We asked capitalist Jamie Dimon why he pays Hillary Clinton to speak"

[sabrina 1]

6. Bernie suggested to one of them, forget who, that they do that. I do it sometimes

since then. I think we should make it a meme. Because to young people, it really is a bad word.

Airc, when the interviewer mentioned 'you're a Socialist', again, Bernie said something like, 'well, if you're going to introduce ME as a Socialist, you need to introduce them as a Capitalist'. I thought it was a great idea.

[Betty Karlson]

4. At some point, the red-scaremongering had to start wearing out.

The word socialist has been used pejoratively for so many different kinds of individuals and policies, it has stopped to mean anything.

[Demeter]

5. There's that %age 47 again

the 47% that did for Romney what he so badly needed....

[thesquanderer]

7. The disclaimer "if nominated by their own party"

So let's say Sanders gets the Dem nomination, and he gets all 59% of the Dems who say they would vote for a Socialist (as opposed to 100% of Dems who obviously would say they would vote for a Dem)... that's still a problem, if the Dem candidate loses 41% of the Dem vote. Luckily, there's a ways to go before Novemeber 2016, plenty of time to bring that number up, and for more Dems to decide they would be willing to vote for him regardless of any labels.

[sabrina 1]

9. Why would the nominee lose any of the Dem vote? If you mean in the primary, that's bound

to happen. But in the GE the base will vote for the nominee. A worse label these days is 'Capitalist' so the only people who will, by then, be worried about the label will be very few imo. Also once people hear him they realize 'wait, I thought a socialist was something else', it's already happening.

Eg, saw two comments on a major forum today. One who identified as 'I've been Republican all my life, but Bernie Sanders has caught my interest. He's talking about things I care about, I will definitely vote for him'. People informed him about registering as a Dem if he is in a closed primary state.

The other stated 'I'm a Southern Conservative, and I like this guy's politics, will probably be supporting him in the election'. I am seeing this now all the time. If a S.Conservative and a Repub aren't worried about the Socialist label, then I don't think too many Dems will be either.

[Thor_MN]

13. Because:

"Democrats offer the most support for socialism with 59 percent saying they would vote for a socialist candidate."

also says that 41% of Democrats said that they would not vote for a socialist candidate. I assume that doesn't mean that they all would vote against a socialist candidate (they may choose not to vote), but the study indicates they would not vote for them.

It's pretty certain that the survey's sample size was larger than 3 cherry-picked opinions. Run this survey again in 6 months and the numbers will probably change, but right now, this indicates a problem for Sanders.

The Republican side is probably pointless due to is really doubtful that a socialist will run on the GOP ticket, but as big a clown car as they have, one never knows.

[misterhighwasted]

11. Haahaa.. Oh yes, The "disclaimer". must be in the fine print..

[thesquanderer]

14. The disclaimer is in the very first sentence.

The post begins:

Not quite half of Americans -- 47 percent-- say they would consider voting for a socialist for president, if the person were well-qualified and nominated by the voter's party, according to a new Gallup survey.

[sabrina 1]

15. You see that as a problem for Bernie? He is running as a Democrat and if he wins

the primaries, he will be the Party's nominee, so I don't see any problem.

He always said he would not be a spoiler running on a third party ticket.

He kept his word. And this is going to be very good for the Dem Party who lost nearly 10% of registered voters over the past number of years. He is bringing them back. So no problem that I can see.

[thesquanderer]

16. It's a problem for him because...

...as of today, according to that poll, 47% of Democrats would not vote for a Socialist in the general election even if that Socialist is the nominee of the Democratic party.

But it's early, and there is plenty of time for him to turn that around.

[Divernan]

8. Those pesky millennials! The largest generation & too smart by half!

They're too smart for Wall Street and too smart for Hillary. They are aware of the close ties of HRC to Wall Street, as are we all. The friend of their enemy is NOT their friend, and they will vote accordingly!

Americans born between 1982 and 2000, known as millennials, now comprise one quarter of the country's population. At 83.1 million, millennials outnumber the 75.4 million baby boomers.

http://www.npr.org/2015/06/25/417349199/millenials-now-out-number-baby-boomers-census-bureau-says
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http://www.businessinsider.com/millennials-are-a-nightmare-for-wall-street-2015-6

Millennials are a 'nightmare' for Wall Street
Turns out, to the greatest consternation of some folks on Wall Street, millennials are smart.

"They don't trust the stock market," Goldman Sachs determined in a survey. Only 18% thought the stock market was "the best way to save for the future." It's a big deal for Wall Street because millennials, having surpassed the baby boomers, are now the largest US generation — and the future source of bonus checks for Wall Street.

"Millennials will become the most important financial generation in America, and the industry will have to adapt to meet their needs," the report warned.

Delinquencies are rising. Some of the millennials have gotten caught up in the for-profit-college scandals that have left them with lots of debt and little education. Now they're waiting for a taxpayer bailout. It has been the school of hard knocks for them.

http://www.businessinsider.com/millennials-are-a-nightmare-for-wall-street-2015-6

[sabrina 1]

10. They were born into the information age, so had much more access to info than the previous

generation. They were part of OWS eg, finally making Wall St corruption a household topic, and providing the lingo, now part of the language, to make it easy for people to discuss in familiar terms what was once beyond them to talk about.

Bernie was an early supporter of OWS, and now they are supporting him.

Frank Lunz was reported to have said about OWS 'that movement terrifies me'. We know it terrified them because they brutally tried to stop it. Too late, a poll at the time showed that 80% or so of the population knew about it. Pretty impressive for what the right tried to dismiss. And they are now on to another phase, backing other movements, such as Black Lives Matter, using their skills to get people to places where protests are taking place etc.

Wall St should be scared of them. They are not happy with the state of the world being passed on to them.

And they are listening to Bernie. Already saw groups on Social Media 'millennials for Bernie and a fairly popular blogger for millennials has been raving about him.

[Vinca]

12. The problem is the right wing depiction of socialism that their watchers/listeners eat up.

Just like "Obamacare," if you quiz them on individual aspects without identifying it as socialism, they love it.