2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf ya go to a dance, ya gotta dance with the one who brung ya. A Hilary win,
Hilary will be doing a stately dance with her big donors, in the corridors of power.
A Bernie win, Bernie will be dancing with those who've taken him to the White House, so he'll be dancing in the street. And it won't matter what you wear.
Are you ready for a brand new beat?
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)She is amazing. I love that song, and the band are a bunch of cuties.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Metric System
(6,048 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Don't go there myself, are you a frequent contributor there?
Metric System
(6,048 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Your knowledge of who I am and what I'm about, however, couldn't be more fucked up, if you tried.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)When I look at Mrs. Clinton's major donators, they are corporations. When I look at Bernie's donations they are unions. Unions are democratically elected organizations that represent workers. Corporations are run by a small cadre of people and stock holders whose main goal is to make profit, no matter what it does to workers.
Using this as a backdrop, please explain to me in plain logic how Mrs. Clinton represents people, and not the large corporations who have given her most of her campaign money?
Thanks and have a wonderful life!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Pastiche423
(15,406 posts)Lots and lots of volunteers that have already set-up local meet-ups, videos, house parties and many other creative ways of educating voters about Bernie.
To win the presidency, one only needs votes.
I'm dancing to the Bernie Beat!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Pastiche423
(15,406 posts)And why?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Pastiche423
(15,406 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Pastiche423
(15,406 posts)Look what's already happening and definitely w/o tv.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Pastiche423
(15,406 posts)All tv does is introduce a candidate to more voters.
Bernie volunteers are already doing that.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)and spread the word the old fashioned way, by knocking on doors and talking to people.
We do it here all the time for even state wide elections in NY.
There is no reason why it cannot be done on a national level with today's technology to coordinate people.
Now can you please answer my question?
Thank You.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Many people do not even have a TV. They get their news and entertainment on the Internet.
Therefore, not as much money is "needed" as once was for TV advertisement.
Word of mouth spreads wider and faster than TV.
Now can you please answer the question I posed to you?
Thanks.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Are corporations allowed to give money?
I really don't know after the citizens united thing.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)The Citizens United decision declared that corporations are people. Okay, if you believe this is true, and not just in the legal sense, I have a bridge for sale for you for a very small sum of money. Your corporation can even buy it.
So then tell me how many votes does a corporation get in ANY election? Is it one vote per dollar, hundred dollars, thousand, million, or what?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Do you know the answer?
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)But does that make it right? Just because something is legal, that makes it right?
If this is so, than why do we change laws?
Citizens United has to be changed.
Bernie has stated that he will work to get something done in this manner, and he is not only talking about, he is doing something about it, by NOT taking corporate dollars, and not having any Super PACS.
I feel that this is more ethical than letting corporations donate money, then expecting a quid pro quo, once the person is elected. This used to be called bribery, it is not just a campaign donation.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)do people still side with a candidate who is taking corporate donations, when there is one who is not?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)to letting corporations take over our country. Thank you and have a nice life.
The only time that change occurs in this country is when WE THE PEOPLE fight for it.
I suggest you read "A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn. It is available everywhere.
You can learn a lot about why you should not vote the corporate line.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Good luck with yours.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)I believe in doing things to achieve my goals, and not always going along with the crowds!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)and not the worst cover song video ever (David Bowie and Mick Jagger's version of Dancing in the Street).
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)Or posting about Bernie, but rather continue with the cheap, ugly, distorted, negative shots?
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)with no expectations?
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)You see, this is a thread about dancing in the streets for your candidate. And, so, I posted a song, we could dance in the streets to, just like the Bernie supporter did. I did not attack Bernie for his issues. And yet, here you are, looking for a fight.
Your constant negative, distorted, twisted attacks are tiresome, and frankly do nothing to help Bernie. Have a nice day...go dance in the streets.
Chelsea's mom has got is goin on.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)You can see them on pay per view most nights.
I do not agree that someone discussing issues, or the basis of campaign contributions is a fight. It is merely a statement of differences.
I am unaware that there are attacks, let alone twisted, negative, and distorted. Perhaps if you could give me a couple of examples of each I could analyze them to see.
Thank You and have a wonderful life.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)go find someone else. You are playing dumb, pretending to not see what is right before your eyes.
Have a wonderful day. Go dance in the streets.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)I am looking for examples of what you are saying? Can you provide them, or are they just empty words?
Thanks for explaining.
Have a great day.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)of attacks. Can you give me an example of the cheap, ugly, and distorted ones. Perhaps I could analyze it for you, and convince you that it is merely a statement of differences, and not an attack.
Thank You and have a wonderful life.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive, Dodge!
Throughout this thread they are asked for examples, but they never give any, do they?
Dodgeball is an hysterically funny movie - think I'll watch it again this rainy weekend.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)brooklynite
(94,487 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)This OP reminds me of the day when Bernie declared.
That day I wrote to my family:
"If I were in my twenties I would be dancing in the streets
nacked; I am that happy! Unfortunately I am too old for that".
I wanted to dance then, now I will work for him like hell, and
I hope I can dance two more times.
kath
(10,565 posts)This government of the corporation, by the corporation, and for the corporation bullshit has gotta stop!
And if anyone thinks that her owners would let HRC appoint someone to the SC who would vote to repeal Citizens United, they're dreaming.
She will definitely have to dance with those who brung her.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)I'm not worthy ....
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Or as members of the One Percent would say, NOKD!
That's super-secret code language of the elite for Not Our Kind Dear!
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I cannot see how anyone can deny that. Get the money out of our politics. Koch Bros, Wall St buying our government is just NOT acceptable.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)brought to American politics.
GO BERNIE GO!!!!!