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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:33 AM Jul 2015

Sen. Jim Webb: Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are ‘way far’ left — ‘not my Democratic Party’

A better title for this article would be: Jim Webb Flushes Himself Down the Toilet.

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Former Virginia Sen. Jim Webb (D) slammed the liberal wing of the Democratic Party on Fox News Sunday this week and said that liberals who are against the Confederate Flag sound just as divisive and wrong-headed as Donald Trump’s remarks about Latino immigrants being “criminals” and “racists.”

-snip-

At one point in the interview, Webb said he feels that the Democratic Party has “moved way far to the left.”

“In a party that seems to thrill to Bernie Sanders and maybe long for Elizabeth Warren, who are the Jim Webb Democrats?” asked Baier.

“I believe we can bring a different tone to the Democratic Party. You’re right,” Webb agreed. “The party has moved way far to the left, and that’s not my Democratic Party.”

Webb — who crossed over from the Republican Party to run against Virginia Republican George Allen in 2006 — is currently polling at 2 percent nationally among prospective Democratic voters.

Full article:
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/sen-jim-webb-bernie-sanders-and-elizabeth-warren-are-way-far-left-not-my-democratic-party/
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Sen. Jim Webb: Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are ‘way far’ left — ‘not my Democratic Party’ (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2015 OP
Sucking up to Hillary? Wilms Jul 2015 #1
nah, just sucking. elehhhhna Jul 2015 #9
TRULY!!!!!!!! calimary Jul 2015 #49
+1000 He's going for the hawk faction. TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #55
just have to get that one jab in, huh? still_one Jul 2015 #12
OK, OK. Wilms Jul 2015 #35
Yes. You did. calimary Jul 2015 #45
Keep your day job BainsBane Jul 2015 #72
Re-read my post. Wilms Jul 2015 #74
Then I think the original response you got is more accurate BainsBane Jul 2015 #75
It was a jab at Webb. Flew right past ya. Wilms Jul 2015 #77
Yeah, no shit. calimary Jul 2015 #44
We need a Democratic Right wing clown car AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #19
Eh... kenfrequed Jul 2015 #38
Funny he was not real interested in really getting to the bottom of the 'suicide' of his staffer. TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #56
He would make a great ambassador to the Confederacy virtualobserver Jul 2015 #2
"The party has moved way far to the left" tularetom Jul 2015 #3
In what universe has the Democratic party "moved way far to the left"? LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #60
I have no idea who he thinks will vote for him. As someone else said, he's totally misread Nay Jul 2015 #61
Is The Bus Ready - Another Politician Just Put Foot In Mouth cantbeserious Jul 2015 #4
Funny guy CTBlueboy Jul 2015 #5
You bet your backside it's not your Democratic party. hedda_foil Jul 2015 #6
He would likely flip back should the Dems regain the Senate. LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #8
He is calling himself a Democrat though O'Malley has always been a Democrat. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #7
No, he actually IS a democrat. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #14
Jeez, this place is getting ugly. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #42
Yeah, no shit. calimary Jul 2015 #46
He's putting himself out there as "running-mate material". Ken Burch Jul 2015 #10
except Benson was a better man and politician karynnj Jul 2015 #23
Um Sanders is the Dukakis candidate. Metric System Jul 2015 #24
Wrong. Bernie would never let a smear campaign from the other side go unchallenged. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #29
Well, there's only one candidate out there who would think he is VP-worthy. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #28
He's not "another Hispanic" enough. frylock Jul 2015 #65
I wish it was the OTHER Jim Webb who was running... Ken Burch Jul 2015 #11
I think Webb need to consider if he is in the right party. With his views on the confederate flag, still_one Jul 2015 #13
Sorry to hear that Jim JackInGreen Jul 2015 #15
He's out of touch. lovemydog Jul 2015 #16
Webb is a recovering (?) sexist Reaganite who spoke of "white culture" merrily Jul 2015 #17
True. He only got as far as he did because the other guy was HORRIBLE. calimary Jul 2015 #47
It was a double whammy, calimary. He made a racist comment, then he lied about it. merrily Jul 2015 #52
Not right wing enough for you Jim? AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #18
Well, there IS a party that he can go find a nice home in. It just isn't OURS. calimary Jul 2015 #48
Another day, another DINO. democrank Jul 2015 #20
The "far left" MAJORITY of Americans will vote you out Webb, like they raised the minimum wage... cascadiance Jul 2015 #59
Go fuck yourself Webb you goddamn Republican! PeteSelman Jul 2015 #21
well, Jim Webb,Reagan Secretary of the Navy who swift boated John Kerry karynnj Jul 2015 #22
Webb... LOL. Agschmid Jul 2015 #25
I wonder if he'll make the Democratic debates cut. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #26
..said the DINO, who only calls himself a Democrat because it's too embarrassing to be a Republican Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #27
Exactly. He's no Democrat -- he's just an embarrassed Republican. Nay Jul 2015 #64
Jim Webb is ann--- Jul 2015 #30
He is a former republican. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #31
So says the former Republican, far right DINO who won as my Senator becuz he ran against Allen peacebird Jul 2015 #32
um.. riversedge Jul 2015 #33
Take your tone and shove it, Jim. Turns out CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #34
Hillary will be moving to the right now Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #36
He's right, it's not his Democratic Party CanonRay Jul 2015 #37
Let's get a little Volkswagon and we can have our own clown car Autumn Jul 2015 #39
So... kenfrequed Jul 2015 #40
Webb should flush himself down the toilet davidpdx Jul 2015 #41
Jim Webb: the guy who's in the race to make Hillary look more liberal nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #43
Must be another corrupt corporate puppet. Skwmom Jul 2015 #50
hahahahaha Webbs Dem Party fredamae Jul 2015 #51
I would v8te for Sanders or Warren over Webb any day. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #53
Take "Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are ‘way far’ left —" out of the title. Than I agree. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #54
Well, Jim Webb is right. It is not his Democratic Party. GoneFishin Jul 2015 #57
Jim Webb can go squeeze himself into the clown bus. GoneFishin Jul 2015 #58
Webb — who crossed over from the Republican Party Kalidurga Jul 2015 #62
jim webb restorefreedom Jul 2015 #63
Did they refer to his candidacy as "unlikely"? arcane1 Jul 2015 #66
Yeah, not the Dem Party that corporations thought they were buying... polichick Jul 2015 #67
Dinodouche. n/t whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #68
who is Jim Webb ? olddots Jul 2015 #69
Jim Webb is way far right -- not my Democratic Party. He should go back to the GOP. nt NCjack Jul 2015 #70
"I represent the Democratic wing of the Democratic party. Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #71
What a loser. Piss off, Jimbo. [nt] Jester Messiah Jul 2015 #73
Is this the ghost of George Wallace? CTBlueboy Jul 2015 #76
 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
35. OK, OK.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 08:48 AM
Jul 2015

I should merely have queried about the possibility that he's trying to position himself as a possible VP candidate.

I let my disdain for establishment politics get the best of me.

BainsBane

(53,038 posts)
72. Keep your day job
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 02:48 PM
Jul 2015

cause it isn't going to be Webb. He doesn't help the ticket at all. Smart money is on Castro.

BainsBane

(53,038 posts)
75. Then I think the original response you got is more accurate
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 03:23 PM
Jul 2015

You chose to get in a gratuitous jab at Clinton. The only thing you illuminated was yourself.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
77. It was a jab at Webb. Flew right past ya.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 03:50 PM
Jul 2015

That said, if you think I was talking about Clinton, that's your mind at work.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
38. Eh...
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:00 AM
Jul 2015

Kind of... maybe.

He just is doing a really bad job doing it and completely misreading the state of affairs these days.

It is vaugely possible he is hoping to get picked for the Veep position and he figures that playing surrogate attack dog would work well. But he is, again, vastly misreading the current political zeitgeist and the last thing Hillary needs is a Lieberman conserva-dem to serve as a boat anchor in the general election and turn off the progressive base that she is having enough trouble wooing.

He might also be trying to glom onto the 'not-hillary' people that are only barely democrats at all. (not too many of these exist)

Really, either way it isn't much of a strategy on his part.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
56. Funny he was not real interested in really getting to the bottom of the 'suicide' of his staffer.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:18 PM
Jul 2015

Someone like that, I don't want around in politics at all.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
2. He would make a great ambassador to the Confederacy
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:38 AM
Jul 2015

He apparently didn't cross very far over into the Democratic Party

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. "The party has moved way far to the left"
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:40 AM
Jul 2015


Do you suppose he was persuaded to enter the race in order to make Hillary Clinton look a little less, er, republican? Otherwise, who the fuck does he think he's gonna get to vote for him with that kind of talk?

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
60. In what universe has the Democratic party "moved way far to the left"?
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:39 PM
Jul 2015

Even the Third Party stalwarts here don't try to make that ridiculous claim.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
61. I have no idea who he thinks will vote for him. As someone else said, he's totally misread
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:43 PM
Jul 2015

the zeitgeist in the country right now. He wrote an interesting history book on the Scots-Irish immigration to this country and how they stayed in the South, developed a culture of insularity, etc., but I think his (somewhat misplaced) admiration for those people has made him think that everyone admires everything about them. We don't. They may be good in a fistfight, but that's about it. The Republicans are ripping off these people by the millions and they still keep voting Republican. It's really not funny watching Webb's favorite group tripping over their own dicks all the time; after a while, they just seem too stupid to learn.

 

CTBlueboy

(154 posts)
5. Funny guy
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:41 AM
Jul 2015

Yes keep speaking Jim Webb protect that southern culture and attacking Sen. Sanders and Warren.


Sounding like another candidate's surrogates if you ask me.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
6. You bet your backside it's not your Democratic party.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:43 AM
Jul 2015

You don't have a Democratic party, buster, because you've always been a Republican.

If in any bizarro world, alternate reality scenario, Webb should somehow win the nomination, I'll write in Bernie Sanders.

LuvLoogie

(7,019 posts)
8. He would likely flip back should the Dems regain the Senate.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 01:00 AM
Jul 2015

Warren and Sanders obviously have more support in the Democratic Party than he does. Just a silly statement.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
14. No, he actually IS a democrat.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 02:13 AM
Jul 2015

Which means we can count on you, and several others, to be rooting for his Confederate ass over Bernie sanders all day long.

After all, the party label is all you care about.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
10. He's putting himself out there as "running-mate material".
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 01:16 AM
Jul 2015

Last edited Mon Jul 13, 2015, 08:12 AM - Edit history (1)

The guy knows he's got no real shot at the nom...so he's presenting himself as the "extreme regional balance" candidate...Lloyd Bentsen to HRC's Michael Dukakis....the ticket that led us to a historic...epic...uh...well...

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
23. except Benson was a better man and politician
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:14 AM
Jul 2015

We He only won one election and that was almost a fluke - His opponent imploded.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
29. Wrong. Bernie would never let a smear campaign from the other side go unchallenged.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 07:04 AM
Jul 2015

That's why Dukakis lost-because he NEVER fought back against Lee Attwood's lies.
And Dukakis' 1988 strategists taught the same "tactic" to John Kerry sixteen years later-we all remember where that led us.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
28. Well, there's only one candidate out there who would think he is VP-worthy.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 07:02 AM
Jul 2015

Someone who shares his belief that the Party needs to be right there at the edge of flipping into Republicanism.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
11. I wish it was the OTHER Jim Webb who was running...
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 01:17 AM
Jul 2015

...y'know, the one who wrote "Wichita Lineman" and "Up, Up and Away".

still_one

(92,303 posts)
13. I think Webb need to consider if he is in the right party. With his views on the confederate flag,
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 02:12 AM
Jul 2015

and other progressive Democrats, he should perhaps rejoin the republicans.

In fact, I encourage to join the throngs of republican candidates running

merrily

(45,251 posts)
17. Webb is a recovering (?) sexist Reaganite who spoke of "white culture"
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 04:27 AM
Jul 2015

while running for the Senate (publicizing his book at the same time), a seat he probably won probably because his opponent made a racist comment in public and then lied about it.

I don't have a huge interest in "his" Democratic Party, which seems to me to be similar to Zell Miller's Democratic Party.

calimary

(81,383 posts)
47. True. He only got as far as he did because the other guy was HORRIBLE.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 11:59 AM
Jul 2015

That former "sun god of the GOP," george allen. OH MAN was he the hot one, at one point anyway. And then he opened his yap and revealed his true self, laughing at an opponent's campaign staffer at a public appearance one fine day.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/14/AR2006081400589.html

http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/blog/2006/08/george_allen_in.html

We put Jim Webb up against him, nervously, though - mainly because george allen was a star at the time. Sacrificial lamb time, probably. george allen was a popular Senator from Virginia. He'd beaten Democrat Chuck Robb (LBJ's son-in-law) for the Senate, and he'd been governor of Virginia so he had lots of props, and physically he looked good and photographed well, he was a smooth talker, and he had the whole football thing going for him because his dad (of the same name) was this big-ass NFL coach, and he was this GOP Golden Boy. He was a sure bet to win. Until he opened his yap that day, all cocky and smug, and aimed a racial slur at a kid of Indian extraction who worked on the Jim Webb campaign - and stuck out because everybody else in the crowd was lily white.

So we got Jim Webb who turned into OUR "Golden Boy" because suddenly he made george allen look like a piece of roadkill shit by comparison after that schmucky smart-ass "macaca" comment.

And now, ironically, it's Jim Webb who looks like a schmuck with his own asshole comments. He's just made himself the Official Non-Starter of the Democratic Party. He doesn't have a prayer. But he does have whatever the Democratic version of a clown car is - all to himself now. And he WON'T be a possibility for running mate, either. He's swimming against a tide now. And geographically he doesn't quite do it, either, for any balancing of the ticket. Hillary Clinton would probably pick somebody like one of the Castro brothers from Texas. And frankly, if Bernie Sanders gets the nomination, I seriously doubt he'd consider Jim Webb, either. Totally incompatible there, too.

democrank

(11,098 posts)
20. Another day, another DINO.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:45 AM
Jul 2015

This "way far left" crap is really something. "Way far left", like supporting unions, getting the homeless off the streets, school breakfast for hungry kids, taking Big Pharma down a notch, breaking up banks "too big to fail", single payer health care, etc.

I`ve said it many times, the Democratic Party`s center has consistently moved to the right, which makes yesterday`s Democratic Party values seem further to the left.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
59. The "far left" MAJORITY of Americans will vote you out Webb, like they raised the minimum wage...
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:26 PM
Jul 2015

... in so many so-called "red states". You work to screw the people, they won't forget, and they'll kick you out as you deserve to be.

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
21. Go fuck yourself Webb you goddamn Republican!
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:54 AM
Jul 2015

Your Democratic Party is the Republican Party, asshole. Why doesn't he just go run where he belongs? I guess he's just there to make other Republican light candidates look more Democratic.

Fuck this guy.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
22. well, Jim Webb,Reagan Secretary of the Navy who swift boated John Kerry
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:09 AM
Jul 2015

Is NOT a part of "my" Democratic party. What a jerk. Not to mention, he was always a questionable vote on many Democratic issues - not something true of either Warren or Sanders. He should return to the Republican party.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
25. Webb... LOL.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:48 AM
Jul 2015

Okay, go on with your bad self.

I haven't really seen any support for him, and none here. I can't imagine anyone is really listening, and that's good.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
27. ..said the DINO, who only calls himself a Democrat because it's too embarrassing to be a Republican
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 07:00 AM
Jul 2015

these days.

Webb — who crossed over from the Republican Party to run against Virginia Republican George Allen in 2006


Yeah, Webb, 'your party' for all of nine years. He crossed over to join the Democrats at their farthest swing to the right, and suddenly thinks that's where Democrats have 'always' been, and that the slightest move back to the left (where voters still are, but have no other party to the left to vote for) makes him whine that it's 'not his Democratic Party'.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
32. So says the former Republican, far right DINO who won as my Senator becuz he ran against Allen
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 07:56 AM
Jul 2015

Who was our R Senator, complete with a Confederate flag and a NOOSE hanging on his Senate office walls to honor his 'Southern Heritage'

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
40. So...
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:05 AM
Jul 2015

The Candidate no one likes because he is too conservative is crying about how bad Bernie is?

Jim Webb can get bent. 30 years of accomodation to GOP economic policy has gotten us nowhere. The only times where things stayed decent are the points where we hedged a bit and ticked up the tax rates on the wealthy just a bit here and there.

Imagine what we could do with some REAL progressive economic policies!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
41. Webb should flush himself down the toilet
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:06 AM
Jul 2015

He should also think about registering as a Republican if he thinks the Democrats have moved too far left. I have some suggestions of other D's he could take with him.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
50. Must be another corrupt corporate puppet.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:08 PM
Jul 2015

If you are against corporate and government corruption and for the working class then you must be a left wing radical and outside the mainstream. When are they going to come up with a new script? This is getting rather tiresome.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
51. hahahahaha Webbs Dem Party
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:12 PM
Jul 2015

isn't really the "true" Democratic Party and hasn't been for years. The Dem Party has shifted so far to the right the curve of the Earth obstructs the view for anyone to see the Good it once stood for.

Mr. Webb can have His party!
I'm with Bernie et al to rebuild what the Democratic Party Used to stand for- for all.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
54. Take "Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are ‘way far’ left —" out of the title. Than I agree. nt
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:14 PM
Jul 2015

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
62. Webb — who crossed over from the Republican Party
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:48 PM
Jul 2015

LOL yeah right. I don't think he crossed over at all he merely changed the letter after his name. Far left is where we want to go from here. We want to go so far left we resemble the Swedish form of socialism.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
67. Yeah, not the Dem Party that corporations thought they were buying...
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 01:35 PM
Jul 2015

Go back to the Republicans, Webb - and take the other corporate tools with you!

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
71. "I represent the Democratic wing of the Democratic party.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 02:06 PM
Jul 2015

Paul Wellstone.


Webb represents the neo con/ neo liberal wing.

 

CTBlueboy

(154 posts)
76. Is this the ghost of George Wallace?
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 03:41 PM
Jul 2015

Well according some people on here he has a D by his name making him a true Democrat . lol

If Dem leadership give a damn Webb is real threat to the party. Spouting his BS about southern culture and confederate flag. Dws is too focus on making sure the party stays centrist even republican-lites as possible.

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