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passnobuck

(92 posts)
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 09:23 PM Aug 2015

My question got burried in a long post but still what needed to be asked

If Bernie Sanders becomes the Democratic nominee, through the primary process, and through the convention, (waste of time and money big free PR process which we all need to elect a president).

WHICH of you Hillary supporters will NOT vote for Bernie as the democratically-selected candidate?
(THUS, handing over the White House to one of those 17 idiots on Fox last week)

And why not?

Reasons?


Put another way... worse for Hillary supporters:

WHAT IF..Hillary has health problems and cannot complete the run for the presidency? (I'm asking this with just a speculative "what if", but I'm not seeing Hillary out there greeting crowds of tens of thousands these days daily like Bernie is... is there a reason we don't see her out there every day? She's not exactly expected in the U.S. Senate on Tuesday through Thursday like Bernie is.)

WHAT IF Hillary cannot, for whatever reason, run for president in mid 2016? Do you Hillary supporters turn the nation over to Republicans in the White House or do you vote for Bernie?

Please answer directly, with reasons for or against, not just emotions. Terrible things happen in politics in America, people we relied upon to be our president turn up dead due to a gunshot, (Kennedy)or a heart attack and improper medical care, (Roosevelt). So where do we go if this happens on a presidential campaign? Who do you Hillary supporters vote for?

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magicmama

(50 posts)
2. If my calculations are correct
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 09:26 PM
Aug 2015

All Bernie needs is 13% of Clinton voters, and he'll win with ALL political spectra over any Republican sacrificial lambs - it's really us vs them - as in the 99% vs the 1%. It is ALL about income inequality. We are at the 1930s again in terms of income inequality ratio - you know what happened.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
3. Democratic nominee gets my vote no matter what
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 09:27 PM
Aug 2015

Too important an election to sit out cuz my candidate didn't get the nomination.

FSogol

(45,631 posts)
4. Unrec. I have not seen a single HRC supporter say that they wouldn't vote for the
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 09:30 PM
Aug 2015

Democratic nominee.

I have seen...., well, we will just leave that alone.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
5. Why not take the time to look back over the last couple of months?
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 09:30 PM
Aug 2015

Several Bernie supporters have said several times that they will never vote for Hillary if she is the Dem nominee.

There have been no such posts from a Hillary supporter.

These loyalty threads are getting old. The die has been cast for which member of one team would rather see a Republican in office. In fact, there was one Bernie supporter that said just that...they would like to see a Republican win, in order to teach everyone a lesson.

Why are youhoping to finally get someone on Hillary's side to admit something like that?

 

passnobuck

(92 posts)
7. People on a message board say outrageous things.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 10:05 PM
Aug 2015

If I were a voter in Alabama or Mississippi, I would not vote for Hillary, and it would make not iota of difference if I went catfishing that day.

So only voters in key states matter, no one else need apply. Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Colorado, Nevada, maybe Iowa.

All other votes are irrelevant. Please ask the questions with the requirement of named state of the voter.

I would NOT vote for Hillary if I lived in Alabama, but in Ohio, I would.

See the difference?

Final word: we need popular elections for president, 50 state-wide, and we need popular elections for House as with the Senate, statewide. If that had been true in 2012 and 2014 elections, we would have a Democratic majority in the House.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
8. No it makes no difference to me
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 10:09 PM
Aug 2015

And the original question seems even sillier now


One person one vote is fine by me.

 

passnobuck

(92 posts)
9. So you obviously do not understand "all politics is local"
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 10:19 PM
Aug 2015

Let me guess, you live in NYC, not southeast Nebraska.

Making a difference to your "it makes no difference to me" is sort of how we got here to a Republican majoriy in House and Senate opposing one of the finest presidents in American histrory, (Obama),in the first place. You simply didn't understand how politics works in America. TWICE America elected a fine man, Obama, and THREE TIMES Obama has been defeated in moving this country forward by Republicans elected on the same ballot.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
17. 'Several' ? OMG!!! CALL A COP!
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:28 PM
Aug 2015

CALL OUT THE LOYALTY-OATH NAZIS!

'Several' people is not worth anyone getting your panties in a twist about--
unless it's just for propaganda purposes...



BooScout

(10,406 posts)
11. I will vote for the nominee....
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 10:34 PM
Aug 2015

The SCOTUS is too important to ever consider sitting it out or voting Republican.....and I wouldn't vote Republican if you paid me.

 

passnobuck

(92 posts)
12. I have seen no evidence that Bernie's supporters would deny Hillary a vote
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 10:45 PM
Aug 2015

But I see no evidence the other way around.

A half a dozen posters who hate Hillary is not a poll.

Can someone start a poll on this?

I'd like to see how most serious Democrats, like those on DU, see this.

Obviously, most Democrats who would vote for Hillary would vote for Bernie, if they have no other rational choice. Perhaps I am wrong, perhaps there are Bernie haters out there that think he's too male, too white, too old, whatever.

I'm thinking 99% of Hillary supporters would vote for Bernie if that's their only choice in the final election, fearing Republican takeovers of Supreme Court, denial of so many rights, wrecking our economy again.......so many reasons to support Hillary thru the primaries, and vote for Bernie if he wins those primaries. Just my thinking, I could be dead wrong.

Control-Z

(15,683 posts)
13. Suggesting that Hillary has health problems
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 10:47 PM
Aug 2015

is pure right wing bull shit. Just stop it.

Sanders is older and male. Everyone knows women live longer.

Should we start predicting Sander's age, gender and health is an issue? We certainly will not. That would be stooping as low as republicans.

You should delete your post.

 

passnobuck

(92 posts)
14. I'm posting a hypothetical, not a reality! See the difference?
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 10:56 PM
Aug 2015

No, I'm sure you don't.

Either Bernie or Hillary could drop dead on the way to the presidency, you seem to dismiss hypotheticals as somehow biased? Damn, you live in a perfect world!

Kennedy was the most popular president since FDR, and a shoe-in in 19
64 for re-election.

Johnson worked hard but had weak competition from a libertarian Republican who wanted to bomb with nuclear weapons on Vietnam. How soon we forget how ugly Republicans became after Eisenhower, the most "liberal" Republican in 100 years, ever since Lincoln, and Teddy Roosevelt was a Republican, and did break-up trusts, but was a plebian, aristocrat, not "one of us".

Name 3 other Republicans since Lincoln, Roosevelt, Eisenhower, who helped America progress.

Zero answers Most screwed us over, even cheated, lied, made deals with the devil.

No Republican since Eisenhower is worthy of respect, you can quote me on that.

Control-Z

(15,683 posts)
15. Then what was this?
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:10 PM
Aug 2015

WHAT IF..Hillary has health problems and cannot complete the run for the presidency? (I'm asking this with just a speculative "what if", but I'm not seeing Hillary out there greeting crowds of tens of thousands these days daily like Bernie is... is there a reason we don't see her out there every day? She's not exactly expected in the U.S. Senate on Tuesday through Thursday like Bernie is."

Was that a hypothetical observation you made to back up your hypothetical "what if"?

You're not fooling anyone. Just stop the right wing crap.

 

passnobuck

(92 posts)
16. "What if? the ultimate hypothetical
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 11:24 PM
Aug 2015

You fail to understand that?

You thihnk it's biased?

You are a sorry set of brain cells, that cannot have imagined the finest president being shot down in Dallas.

Carry on with your fantasies, realities intervene, but no problem for Hillary supporters like you.

You seem to love your fantasies, and Carter, one our finest prby esidents ever, defeated by treason on the part of Reagan supporters.

No one thinks these things thru, except you in your fantasy land, who thinks Obama will elect Hillary, and she might get there, fine for me, but then we have to think of alternatives, Johnson in 1964, we could have had no voting rights act for another 30 years or more.

As a black man, whose mother and grandmother get their "internet news" from AOL, I'm kind of grateful that Johnson was president after our greatest leader in the late 1950's captured our hearts and got shot down and Johnson was there, but he mae an horrific mistake or two over 58,000+ dead in Vietnam.. we need to look at all the issues and all the alternatives.

No, I never voted for a Republican, so get off that soap box, not me, just have to consider all alternatives. So don't you do the same?

Control-Z

(15,683 posts)
19. Just read the bolded text that you wrote
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:18 AM
Aug 2015

and get back to me about a "sorry set of brain cells". You should be alerted on for that alone. I hope someone does.

murielm99

(30,810 posts)
18. I am not taking any more loyalty oaths here
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:09 AM
Aug 2015

on a DEMOCRATIC board, or issuing any disclaimers about how much I like Bernie.

Nothing satisfies you people.

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