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Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 05:47 PM Jul 2012

Hillary's "Shame On You" quote being used in (R) ads.

I'm wondering what the response should be. It is hard to refute this without going after our Secretary Of State.

IMO she was out of line on this one and never should have gone there, but then I was Pro 'Bama from early on so my opinion could easily be tainted.


The quote in question was about this:



http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/obama-mailings-false/

^snip^

We find that a mailer criticizing her position on trade is indeed misleading. One that attacks her health care plan we have previously described as straining the facts, though not exactly "false."

Trade: A mailer showing a locked plant gate quotes Clinton as saying she believed NAFTA was "a boon" to the economy. Those are not her words and Obama was wrong to put quote marks around them. In fact, she’s been described by a biographer as privately opposing NAFTA in the White House.

Health Care: A second mailer said Clinton’s health care plan "forces everyone to buy insurance, even if you can’t afford it." We have previously said that mailer "lacks context" and strains the facts. But both Obama and Clinton have been exaggerating their differences on this issue.

We’ve also previously criticized Clinton for sending a mailer that twisted Obama’s words and gave a false picture of his proposals on Social Security, home foreclosures and energy.




To me this falls into the typical back and forth of any campaign. It certainly isn't "ducking our heads and running for the vehicles to avoid snipers" kinda stuff. It was done in late February after she had lost Super Tuesday. I think we all know what shape her campaign was in at that point.



So the question remains, what is the response?


The other question, is it possible to spin this to our advantage since he was attacking a health care mandate and NAFTA in those mailings (and wouldn't that be fun)?
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Hillary's "Shame On You" quote being used in (R) ads. (Original Post) Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 OP
Not likely to be effective. Rosanna Lopez Jul 2012 #1
I saw this ad here in NC Thrill Jul 2012 #2
It's basically old news, I don't see it playing up much. joshcryer Jul 2012 #3
Please don't use the term PUMA Rosanna Lopez Jul 2012 #6
GOP politicians are so distrusted they had to use a DEMOCRAT to knock down Obama. applegrove Jul 2012 #4
This is yesterday! Kteachums Jul 2012 #5
Yes, and Chief Justice Roberts ruled in favor of Obamacare because of his seizure ilikeitthatway Jul 2012 #7
You really thought the GOP wasn't going to use this??!! center rising Jul 2012 #8
Good Grief, there are tons of attacks on Romney by GOP opponents both this time & last WI_DEM Jul 2012 #9

Rosanna Lopez

(308 posts)
1. Not likely to be effective.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 07:09 PM
Jul 2012

I was a Hillary supporter in 2008. Some things I agreed with, and some things I didn't. Both camps got a little heated at times because of the intense rivalry.

I don't think this strategy by the Republicans is going to have much effect. It might have had more of an impact in 2008, but even then their attempt to bring over Hillary voters to McCain, particularly women, backfired. They chose Sarah Palin as the 'Republican Hillary' and it was an insult to women.

And Hillary has gone on to be Obama's Secretary of State and biggest defender, so how can this ad have any effect? It might have been relevant if Hillary had refused to serve under Obama and was forming her own breakaway group from the President, but that's not the case.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
3. It's basically old news, I don't see it playing up much.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 07:27 PM
Jul 2012

I see those ads here, too, highly conservative area. Probably trying to appeal to the PUMA / Hillary supporter vote. Won't do much.

Rosanna Lopez

(308 posts)
6. Please don't use the term PUMA
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 09:45 PM
Jul 2012

The term PUMA is kind of insulting to some women who are Hillary supporters.

ilikeitthatway

(143 posts)
7. Yes, and Chief Justice Roberts ruled in favor of Obamacare because of his seizure
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 10:49 PM
Jul 2012

The Right has nothing. They're hilariously pathetic.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
9. Good Grief, there are tons of attacks on Romney by GOP opponents both this time & last
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 09:22 AM
Jul 2012

if that's the way they want to play it then recycle some of the things McCain, Huckabee, Gingrich, Perry, Santorum & the rest had to say about Mittens.

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