2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary's "Shame On You" quote being used in (R) ads.
I'm wondering what the response should be. It is hard to refute this without going after our Secretary Of State.
IMO she was out of line on this one and never should have gone there, but then I was Pro 'Bama from early on so my opinion could easily be tainted.
The quote in question was about this:
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/obama-mailings-false/
^snip^
We find that a mailer criticizing her position on trade is indeed misleading. One that attacks her health care plan we have previously described as straining the facts, though not exactly "false."
Trade: A mailer showing a locked plant gate quotes Clinton as saying she believed NAFTA was "a boon" to the economy. Those are not her words and Obama was wrong to put quote marks around them. In fact, shes been described by a biographer as privately opposing NAFTA in the White House.
Health Care: A second mailer said Clintons health care plan "forces everyone to buy insurance, even if you cant afford it." We have previously said that mailer "lacks context" and strains the facts. But both Obama and Clinton have been exaggerating their differences on this issue.
Weve also previously criticized Clinton for sending a mailer that twisted Obamas words and gave a false picture of his proposals on Social Security, home foreclosures and energy.
To me this falls into the typical back and forth of any campaign. It certainly isn't "ducking our heads and running for the vehicles to avoid snipers" kinda stuff. It was done in late February after she had lost Super Tuesday. I think we all know what shape her campaign was in at that point.
So the question remains, what is the response?
The other question, is it possible to spin this to our advantage since he was attacking a health care mandate and NAFTA in those mailings (and wouldn't that be fun)?
Rosanna Lopez
(308 posts)I was a Hillary supporter in 2008. Some things I agreed with, and some things I didn't. Both camps got a little heated at times because of the intense rivalry.
I don't think this strategy by the Republicans is going to have much effect. It might have had more of an impact in 2008, but even then their attempt to bring over Hillary voters to McCain, particularly women, backfired. They chose Sarah Palin as the 'Republican Hillary' and it was an insult to women.
And Hillary has gone on to be Obama's Secretary of State and biggest defender, so how can this ad have any effect? It might have been relevant if Hillary had refused to serve under Obama and was forming her own breakaway group from the President, but that's not the case.
Thrill
(19,178 posts)Its so corny
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)I see those ads here, too, highly conservative area. Probably trying to appeal to the PUMA / Hillary supporter vote. Won't do much.
Rosanna Lopez
(308 posts)The term PUMA is kind of insulting to some women who are Hillary supporters.
applegrove
(118,696 posts)Kteachums
(331 posts)She is part of his administration now! People just see this as yesterday!
ilikeitthatway
(143 posts)The Right has nothing. They're hilariously pathetic.
center rising
(971 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)if that's the way they want to play it then recycle some of the things McCain, Huckabee, Gingrich, Perry, Santorum & the rest had to say about Mittens.