Is there any conceivable explanation for DWS heading the DNC

[MannyGoldstein]

besides being a Hill Shill?

Any?

"Because she's competent at getting Democrats elected" would be a good laugh line if this were a movie, but it's real life, for better or worse. And here we are. And there she is.

Holy @#$&, this is incredible.

[cherokeeprogressive]

1. Nnnnnnnnnope.

[hrmjustin]

2. I admit I am not a fan ofhers but I just can't get myself so worked up over the debate thing.

[TDale313]

7. Not to be snarky, but since it benefits Hillary...

I wouldn't expect most Hillary supporters to be agitating for more debates. Less debates almost always favor the front runner.

[hrmjustin]

10. That was not snarky and I think Snders is a great debater.

[TDale313]

13. I think these will actually be really good debates.

And I think they'll be good for the party. Primary preferences aside, we really don't want all the attention to be on the Republican side. Debates are one way to counter that.

[hrmjustin]

15. I think they could have added a debate for September.

[BlueCaliDem]

54. So, what you're saying is, Hillary Clinton can get her message out in six debates and Sanders can't?

After all the media attention he's getting on the weekends and the positive coverage he's getting for the huge turn-out at his rallies - while Hillary Clinton is being crucified by the media, day in, day out - if he can't convince the American people he's "the One" for them for 2016 in six debates, he is a weak candidate and has no business trying to become the president of United States.

[TDale313]

60. More debates tend to favor the underdog

Fewer tend to benefit the frontrunner. It's a chance for the one who is behind to gain ground, and the one ahead can stumble. Yeah, Hillary is still far better known than Sanders or any of the others.

[BlueCaliDem]

78. That could be true if the "underdog" isn't getting extensive coverage (O'Malley, for example),

but Bernie Sanders is on just about all the weekend programs, every weekend, constantly mentioned on MSNBC (Lawrence O'Donnell, Chris Hayes, and Rachel Maddow), and CNN. Granted, not as much as Trump, but Sanders gets far more positive coverage than Hillary Clinton (who appears to only get negative coverage with trumped-up scandals - the same treatment the M$M gave Obama in 2012) and far more attention than O'Malley, Chafee, and Webb. Sanders is drawing huge crowds, topping 28,000 and 26,000 to his rallies and that tends to bring in the cameras and reporters, so Bernie Sanders has nothing to complain about.

Six debates is more than fair for both frontrunners, Sanders and Clinton, to bring their positions before the American people. Maybe not so much for O'Malley, Chafee, and Webb, though.

[demwing]

120. Read post #13

For the answer you missed

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=554749

[BlueCaliDem]

142. Thanks for the link, demwing.

But I still believe that six debates should be more than enough to get their message across to the American people. On the other hand, should O'Malley, Webb, Chafee, and Sanders want more than the DNC pre-scheduled six Democratic debates, they can either lobby the DNC (hard, with their supporters writing the DNC, too) or join powers and hold more debates themselves. I'm certain that can be done should they lobby MSNBC and CNN with hard reasons why they need more.

[demwing]

146. I JUST answered that question by refering you to post 13

Why did you ignore the answer and just restate your "concern"?

POST 13:

And I think they'll be good for the party. Primary preferences aside, we really don't want all the attention to be on the Republican side. Debates are one way to counter that.

It's not about what individual candidates have to say, but what the party as a whole has to offer to the country. Right now the Republicans are sucking up all the news.

Where are we in response?

We should be having debates about the awesome things Dems have done and will do, and the crazy shit the circus clowns are saying they'll do if given a chance.

Why the silence? Why should any candidate have to push the DNC for the party to be heard? The DNC should be eliminating obstacles to the far-reaching broadcast and distribution of the party platform.

The debate schedule is bullshit.

[BeanMusical]

151. +1000

[elleng]

9. Not interested in learning about other candidates, I guess.

THAT is OUR problem, MONOPOLY!

[hrmjustin]

11. Did I say I was not interested?

[elleng]

12. 'Can't get worked up about the debate thing'

suggests lack of interest to me.

[hrmjustin]

14. Your opinion is wrong. I am very interested in it.

Good night.

[elleng]

16. Good, I'm glad you're interested.

[Lorien]

58. You don't mind handing the election to the GOP?

They are allowing the GOP to dominate the media for THREE FULL MONTHS by postponing the debates. They won't be able to recover from that loss of air time. They've made Hillary look like a cowardly entitled brat by attempting to shield her from a reasonable number of debates and rig the primary in her favor. There is no doubt in my mind that she'll lose the general election because of it.

[hrmjustin]

59. I think they could have added a debate for August and September.

[Dont call me Shirley]

71. That's all Wasserman-Schultz has done, let the GOP win. She's a great leader for them, but not for D.

[billhicks76]

73. She's A Moderate Conservative

Of she wants to vote Democrat then let her. But letting her be a Democratic nominee or in charge of the party is beyond stupid.

[Dont call me Shirley]

145. So true, billhicks76.

[djean111]

3. Here is a little Florida story -

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/02/20/debbie-wasserman-schultzs-backroom-deal-goes-massively-horribly-terribly-wrong-181128

Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s backroom deal goes massively, horribly, terribly wrong

Orlando trial lawyer John Morgan has been a donor, but also a critic of Wasserman Schultz in particular.

Morgan who has been instrumental in driving new medical marijuana policy in Florida, came short of having it pass a Florida constitutional amendment last year.

Their rift started when Wasserman Schultz publicly opposed the legislation that Morgan helped draft. That move didn’t sit well with the trial lawyer and at the time he called her “despised…an irritant…irrelevant,” according to Politico.

The old spat was reignited Wednesday when Politico reached out to Wasserman Schultz’s office looking for comment on the criticisms from Morgan and other medical marijuana advocates.

Reportedly flustered the Wassermann Schultz team got to work and reached out through an email to the campaign manager for the medical marijuana initiative and offered him a deal – retract critical statements of her and she’ll change her position on medical marijuana.
The email was forwarded to Morgan who declined the offer.

Morgan then forwarded the email chain to Politico to reportedly show how “thin skinned” she is.

“Actions have consequences,” Morgan told Politico. “Her days of pushing people around are over.”

I don't think there is any "core" to DWS - it is all about the donors and the deal. Here in Florida, we hear about this crap.
This is what is killing/has killed enthusiasm for the Democrats, IMO.
And we are supposed to think she and her ilk actually stand for something? Anything? Nothing.

[MannyGoldstein]

8. That seems so perfectly in character

that it caused me to experience retroperistalsis.

[840high]

19. Thank you.

[Blus4u]

31. AND THIS POST DESERVES IT'S OWN OP

and that is my humble OP.
That is all I had to say.

Peace

[L0oniX]

72. OMG she is discusting. She plays a power game over medical pot!

WTFH!

[HappyPlace]

4. The party is eating itself in two. The "leadership" is not representing the rank and file.

And that never ends well.

This is going to be a problem-- if DWS is going to support HRC to the exclusion of what is right for the process, we will fail.

We can thank Hillary and Debbie and the rest for that Republican in the whitehouse if we lose.

[PowerToThePeople]

29. I do not think they care if Republicans win

Only that the establishment continue it's path to oligarchy and totalitarian police state fascism.

The people of this nation can not be allowed a voice.

[glinda]

36. Well some do share similar donors and views.

[zeemike]

39. And I think you are right.

I think they would like to turn politics into a reality TV show. Where only gullible people pay attention so they can manipulate them to do anything the oligarchs want done.
And the fewer people that vote the better...their funding comes from the sponsors.

[L0oniX]

85. "continue it's path to oligarchy" Nailed it.

[MuseRider]

5. It was her turn? n/t

[BeanMusical]

97. Lol!

[BuelahWitch]

17. The question is, why did President Obama appoint her?

Did she help bring in Florida for him? She seems rather incompetent so doubt it. Maybe it was something he did to appease the Clintons.

[840high]

21. Good question - wish we knew.

[hedda_foil]

23. I think he did a lot to appease Hillary over the years.

God only knows how much he had to promise to get her stand down her challenge after he wrapped up the delegates. I strongly believe that a great deal of it involved making sure she got the 2016 nomination, and I think her picking the DNC chair for that election year was part of the deal ....hence DWS.

[Historic NY]

28. No the President did not appoint her...

this is the BS that is spread by people. She was elected to her term. Just a few weeks back the whiners were complaining the Dean wasn't reappointed. It just shows how people are clueless about how the Democratic Party operates, and has operated for decades.

The chairperson of the DNC (currently U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida) is elected by vote of members of the Democratic National Committee. The DNC is composed of the chairs and vice-chairs of each state Democratic Party Committee, two hundred members apportioned among the states based on population and generally elected either on the ballot by primary voters or by the State Democratic Party Committee, a number of elected officials serving in an ex-officio capacity, and a variety of representatives of major Democratic Party constituencies.

[Chathamization]

41. Yup, people ignore party elections and then get pissed off by the results. The reason the DNC is a

mess is because we let it be a mess. We have the power to change it, but almost no one exercises that power.

[MannyGoldstein]

50. Selected by the President, confirmed by DNC, I think

e.g., http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/debbie-wasserman-schultz-picked-as-chairwoman-of-d-n-c/

[BuelahWitch]

64. Thank you, Manny n/t

[Thespian2]

94. Thanks, Manny

The linked article says:

“She’s part of the next generation of Democrats,” said Jenny Backus, a longtime party strategist and former official at the Democratic National Committee.

If that is true, the Democratic Party is F**ked.

[Midwestern Democrat]

51. When the Democrats hold the White House, the DNC Chair is de facto selected by the president.

The fact that a current congresswoman would be named DNC Chair ought to give an idea of the basic "figurehead/spokesman" nature of the appointment when there's a Democratic President - when we're out of power, the DNC Chair is a full time job.

[L0oniX]

84. Please proceed...

President Barack Obama has chosen Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz as the incoming chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, the party announced late Tuesday.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/wasserman-schultz-to-lead-dnc-052605#ixzz3kF00qu9W

[BeanMusical]

100. You forgot to give credit to Wikipedia by posting a link after copy-pasting your second paragraph.

Here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Committee#Campaign_role

[phleshdef]

47. The DNC chair isn't appointed by the President.

You should learn how things work before opening your mouth... otherwise you illustrate a complete lack of credibility.

[BuelahWitch]

63. You should get some manners before opening your keyboard

Otherwise you illustrate that you were born in a barn.

[roguevalley]

66. +1 zillion Beulah witch

[phleshdef]

90. Thicken your skin.

[BuelahWitch]

95. And you do the same.

[phleshdef]

125. That makes no sense. I can take whatever without complaint.

[L0oniX]

83. Fun with facts time:

http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/wasserman-schultz-to-lead-dnc-052605

President Barack Obama has chosen Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz as the incoming chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, the party announced late Tuesday.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/wasserman-schultz-to-lead-dnc-052605#ixzz3kF00qu9W

Enjoy

[BuelahWitch]

96. Thank you! n/t

[phleshdef]

122. Thats inaccurate reporting. You should be careful with politico articles.

The chairperson of the DNC (currently U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida) is elected by vote of members of the Democratic National Committee. The DNC is composed of the chairs and vice-chairs of each state Democratic Party Committee, two hundred members apportioned among the states based on population and generally elected either on the ballot by primary voters or by the State Democratic Party Committee, a number of elected officials serving in an ex-officio capacity, and a variety of representatives of major Democratic Party constituencies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Committee

[L0oniX]

130. Should I be careful with this one too???

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/debbie-wasserman-schultz-picked-as-chairwoman-of-d-n-c/


Obama "selected" her. She didn't just appear out of a hole in the ground.

[phleshdef]

131. I already debunked the notion that a President selects the DNC chair.

You are wrong. Period.

[BeanMusical]

154. You didn't debunk shit. From DWS's site:

Statement from Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz

For Immediate Release

Date: April 5, 2011

Washington, DC – Today, DNC Chairman Tim Kaine resigned his role at the DNC to run for the Senate in Virginia. Following his resignation, Vice President Biden announced in an email to DNC members that President Obama has tapped Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz as his choice to serve as the next DNC Chair – a choice which is expected to be considered by DNC members in the very near future. If elected by the full membership, Wasserman Schultz would be the first woman elected to the role of DNC Chair by Party members. Two women have previously served as Chair in an appointed capacity, one in an interim role. Regarding her selection, Congresswoman Wasserman Schultz issued the following statement:

“I am so honored and humbled to be President Obama’s choice to serve as the next DNC chair, and I look forward to seeking approval by my colleagues on the Democratic National Committee to serve in this important role."

http://www.debbiewassermanschultz.com/news/2011/statement-from-congresswoman-debbie-wasserman-schultz/

I would think that DWS would know better than Wikipedia. Obama picked her then the DNC confirmed her. You are wrong. Period.

[phleshdef]

155. No, Strickland and DWS were candidates for the chair position.

Perhaps Obama, as a superdelegate himself voted for her, but he did NOT unilaterally appoint her as was implied.

[BeanMusical]

159. Yawn...

From DWS's site:

Statement from Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz

For Immediate Release

Date: April 5, 2011

Washington, DC – Today, DNC Chairman Tim Kaine resigned his role at the DNC to run for the Senate in Virginia. Following his resignation, Vice President Biden announced in an email to DNC members that President Obama has tapped Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz as his choice to serve as the next DNC Chair – a choice which is expected to be considered by DNC members in the very near future. If elected by the full membership, Wasserman Schultz would be the first woman elected to the role of DNC Chair by Party members. Two women have previously served as Chair in an appointed capacity, one in an interim role. Regarding her selection, Congresswoman Wasserman Schultz issued the following statement:

“I am so honored and humbled to be President Obama’s choice to serve as the next DNC chair, and I look forward to seeking approval by my colleagues on the Democratic National Committee to serve in this important role."

http://www.debbiewassermanschultz.com/news/2011/statement-from-congresswoman-debbie-wasserman-schultz/

I would think that DWS would know better than Wikipedia.

[BeanMusical]

99. "You should learn how things work before opening your mouth..."

Well I guess that you illustrate a complete lack of credibility.

[L0oniX]

111. That's going to leave a mark!

[BeanMusical]

112. Yup.

[phleshdef]

124. No mark left, Politico didn't accurately reflect how the process works.

The chairperson of the DNC (currently U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida) is elected by vote of members of the Democratic National Committee. The DNC is composed of the chairs and vice-chairs of each state Democratic Party Committee, two hundred members apportioned among the states based on population and generally elected either on the ballot by primary voters or by the State Democratic Party Committee, a number of elected officials serving in an ex-officio capacity, and a variety of representatives of major Democratic Party constituencies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Committee

[L0oniX]

128. Obama selected her

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/debbie-wasserman-schultz-picked-as-chairwoman-of-d-n-c/

Someone had to select her first. Did you think she just poofed out of the air?

[phleshdef]

133. The party delegates vote for the chair.

That's how it works.

[L0oniX]

134. She was selected by Obama.

She didn't appear out of no where. So you tell me how the party delegates selected her to be voted on? Was it out of a pool of candidates?

[phleshdef]

139. No one appears out of nowhere.

And actually, it was her and Ted Strickland who were vying for the position. So yes there was a very small pool of candidates.

[phleshdef]

140. No one appears out of nowhere... but you act like she was an unknown person until Obama existed.

And yes, there was a very small pool of candidates, her and Ted Strickland.

[L0oniX]

144. It's not complicated. Obama selected her and they voted for her.

[phleshdef]

149. No, they voted for her and then Obama accepted it.

[BeanMusical]

152. Lol!

[phleshdef]

156. You know, every rolling smiley posted directly correlates to said poster being wrong times 10.

[BeanMusical]

158. Suuure.

And you've been proven wrong by many people in this thread but keep digging, it's amusing.

[phleshdef]

123. No, Politico is the one with the credibility problem.

The chairperson of the DNC (currently U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida) is elected by vote of members of the Democratic National Committee. The DNC is composed of the chairs and vice-chairs of each state Democratic Party Committee, two hundred members apportioned among the states based on population and generally elected either on the ballot by primary voters or by the State Democratic Party Committee, a number of elected officials serving in an ex-officio capacity, and a variety of representatives of major Democratic Party constituencies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Committee

[BeanMusical]

129. How about The Washington Post?

Obama himself offered the job to Wasserman Schultz just before 5 pm eastern time today, according to a Democratic source. Obama 2012 campaign manager Jim Messina conducted interviews of several of the potential chairs and spoke with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi over the weekend to solicit their recommendations.

Wasserman Schultz and former Ohio governor Ted Strickland had long been consider the two frontrunners for the job.

In choosing Wasserman Schultz to replace Kaine, who is running for the Senate in Virginia in 2012, President Obama is installing a gifted communicator and fundraiser who also happens to hail from the swing state of Florida.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/florida-rep-debbie-wasserman-schultz-is-new-dnc-chair/2011/04/05/AFTC8DlC_blog.html

[phleshdef]

132. The DNC chair is elected by party delegates. Period.

[BeanMusical]

135. If you say so then it must be true.

[phleshdef]

138. I've cited the information that describes the process several times in this thread.

[BeanMusical]

150. Post 144: "It's not complicated. Obama selected her and they voted for her."

And from DWS's site:

Statement from Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz

For Immediate Release

Date: April 5, 2011

Washington, DC – Today, DNC Chairman Tim Kaine resigned his role at the DNC to run for the Senate in Virginia. Following his resignation, Vice President Biden announced in an email to DNC members that President Obama has tapped Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz as his choice to serve as the next DNC Chair – a choice which is expected to be considered by DNC members in the very near future. If elected by the full membership, Wasserman Schultz would be the first woman elected to the role of DNC Chair by Party members. Two women have previously served as Chair in an appointed capacity, one in an interim role. Regarding her selection, Congresswoman Wasserman Schultz issued the following statement:

“I am so honored and humbled to be President Obama’s choice to serve as the next DNC chair, and I look forward to seeking approval by my colleagues on the Democratic National Committee to serve in this important role."

http://www.debbiewassermanschultz.com/news/2011/statement-from-congresswoman-debbie-wasserman-schultz/

I would think that DWS would know better than Wikipedia.

[demwing]

147. Read L0oniX's post #84

then get back to us about opening your mouth...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251554690#post84

[demwing]

148. Directly from DWS's website

http://www.debbiewassermanschultz.com/news/2011/statement-from-congresswoman-debbie-wasserman-schultz/

The article is titled: "Statement from Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz"

Here's the intro:

Statement from Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz

For Immediate Release

Date: April 5, 2011

Washington, DC – Today, DNC Chairman Tim Kaine resigned his role at the DNC to run for the Senate in Virginia. Following his resignation, Vice President Biden announced in an email to DNC members that President Obama has tapped Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz as his choice to serve as the next DNC Chair – a choice which is expected to be considered by DNC members in the very near future. If elected by the full membership, Wasserman Schultz would be the first woman elected to the role of DNC Chair by Party members. Two women have previously served as Chair in an appointed capacity, one in an interim role. Regarding her selection, Congresswoman Wasserman Schultz issued the following statement:

“I am so honored and humbled to be President Obama’s choice to serve as the next DNC chair, and I look forward to seeking approval by my colleagues on the Democratic National Committee to serve in this important role."

[BeanMusical]

153. :crickets:

Well, according to this poster Wikipedia is a more credible source than the Washington post and DWS's own web site.

[Le Taz Hot]

18. It's who the corporate masters wanted.

She serves them well, just as her candidate serves them well. It's why her fucking war chest is so humongous. But there's a price to pay for that huge war chest and it won't be them who pays that price, it will be us. Again.

[gregcrawford]

20. The Peter Principle?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

22. Apparently the job isn't in great demand.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

24. She's there to keep Liberals where they belong.

[FlatBaroque]

25. DWS is emblematic of the reason

I left the Democratic party. And as long as steaming turds like her are running that show, I'll watch from a distance.

I think her skin suit does not fit well.

[SwankyXomb]

32. A skin peel and some peroxide

and she'll be all set for her job at Fox.

[glinda]

37. Odd...she has that weird eye gaze thing going like some of them now do.

Like "Body Snatchers". Had the Soul sucked right out of them.

[GoneFishin]

69. I wonder how much she got for it.

[Phlem]

79. with the correct background,

that picture would be a perfect mug shot.

[Puzzledtraveller]

103. yes, we are doing it all wrong.

you can't market that.

[Historic NY]

26. She was elected to the term.

[L0oniX]

82. Duh. Obama picked her.

Read up sometime: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/debbie-wasserman-schultz-picked-as-chairwoman-of-d-n-c/

[turbinetree]

27. Again..............................

who voted for the TPP...................................does anyone have the information------------I can't find the list, but I have a thought that the individual in question voted YEA

But. I do not know one U.S Senator who voted-------------------------NAY


Honk---------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

[SoapBox]

30. The old and entrenched Democratic will implode just like the

old and entrenched Repulicans.

This rigging to coronate the Chosen One is criminal.

[marym625]

136. +100

[ibegurpard]

33. there is absolutely no excuse for her retention

After the 2014 electoral disaster.

[JDPriestly]

34. K&R. The losses in 2014 were deplorable. I hate to be mean to someone, but she clearly

is not suited to be the DNC chair and should resign.

[Historic NY]

88. People didn't come out to vote...

so its her fault the DNC flushed the cash down the rat hole in 2014 w/o results. It not her fault state parties either pick dismal candidates or none at all.

https://www.opensecrets.org/parties/

http://www.opensecrets.org/parties/expend.php?cycle=2014&cmte=dnc

[JDPriestly]

107. The DNC does a boring campaign, doesn't really try to get voters interested and engaged.

It's same old, same old corruption and more and more of the in-crowd, and then the DNC wonders why Democrats lost.

If the DNC had stepped in when Walker in Wisconsin was beating up on unions, people would have felt they had something to gain by voting.

The DNC is just too "nice." They don't engage the public on issues that matter to ordinary people. Like the foreclosures. Like attacks on Medicare and Social Security, like making access to education better.

[olddots]

35. her eyes look like she is seeking the approval of authoritairians

she looks like she isn't convinced of what she is saying.The head of the DNC is a very tough job because the politicians are moving to the right when the people are wanting to stay with the founding principals unclutered by the "neo" lable . THIS neo crap is a sales term for something that is not good for anyone except the owner class .

[haydukelives]

38. no

[Cleita]

40. No. I like her, but not in this position.

She's fine doing what she does in Florida because she fits there. I don't want her in the DNC though. She's much too partisan.

[phleshdef]

48. Right, I don't have anything against her personally but she SUCKS at her job as DNC chair.

[Purveyor]

42. Nope. Just like their isn't one (conceivable) for Schumer to soon become the Senate Minority Leader

No way in hell we take the Senate back come 2016...

[left-of-center2012]

43. "Is there any conceivable explanation for DWS heading the DNC"

She was co-chair of Clinton's 2008 campaign,
so maybe Clinton asked Obama, as a favor, to appoint DWS?

Just realized, DWS = Dancing With the Stars.
DWS & HC

[davidpdx]

44. There are several people who could do a better job than she could

[mylye2222]

45. No. She is here to make Hillary been nominated.

As well as Terry McAuliffe was here in 2004 to indirectly helo Bu$h keep the WH ( failed to secure voting process against fraud in crucial states, top of it Ohio, discoraged the Kerry campaign to respond earlier ti SBVT Liars ...), so that Hillary Clinton could run in 2008.

[Zorra]

46. Duh. Like, can you say

OLIGARCHY?

[Babel_17]

49. She's personable, and utterly inoffensive to the sensibilities of donors

She's a liberal woman and she gets along great with those who look for that in the person at the top of the top of the party they donate to. She's "just so" on the issues to them.

Does she turn off other donors? Probably, imo. Have we fared well while she's been at the helm? No.

She's got a strong connection to HRC so talk of replacing her comes with a risk.

Be interesting to see the results if a serious poll was ever commissioned regarding the desirability of her staying on.

[Duckhunter935]

52. Nope

She has managed to lose many democratic seats and should be fired

[fredamae]

53. Yes, there is a reason-Pres Obama....

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-04-05/obama-picks-wasserman-schultz-to-head-democratic-party-correct-

[BlueCaliDem]

55. Yeah. She's a Democrat and calling her a "Hill Shill" is pretty low, Manny.

DWS (not a fan of the woman) has looked at the figures. And you know what they say...figures don't lie, liars figure.

To date:

Hillary Clinton endorsements:
94 House Dems
29 Senate Dems
7 Democratic Governors - and Peter Shumlin, Governor of the State of Vermont, is included in that number.
440 Super-delegates.

From FiveThirtyEight:
Before any votes are cast, presidential candidates compete for the support of influential members of their party, especially elected officials like U.S. representatives, senators and governors. During the period known as the “invisible primary,” these “party elites” seek to coalesce around the candidates they find most acceptable as their party’s nominee. Over the past few decades, when these elites have reached a consensus on the best candidate, rank-and-file voters have usually followed.

As a Bernie Sanders supporter, can you give me the numbers of congressional and gubernatorial Dems who have endorsed him? Much appreciated.

[hobbit709]

65. She's a DINO

She proved that when she not only didn't support a Democrat running for Congress in Florida but openly paraded about with his Republican opponent.

[BlueCaliDem]

143. Then he should've post "DINO" instead of "Hill Shill". eom

[MineralMan]

56. Sure. The DNC members voted her into the position.

You know, people who have been involved in Democratic Party organizations all across the country for years. They are on the Democratic National Committee, because they're leaders of local and state Democratic Party organizations. They got elected to those posts, too. That's how it works.

What's incredible, in my opinion, is that those who want to change the party don't bother to get involved in or even understand how it actually functions. There's the key to all of this, Manny. Heck, if you'd been working your way up through the Democratic Party system for years, then you might be the DNC Chair.

[MannyGoldstein]

61. Okey-dokey

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=555991

[Enthusiast]

75. Thank you for that, Manny.

[L0oniX]

81. Nailed it! That should provide some embarrassment.

[MannyGoldstein]

91. You know, it would be nice if once in a while we were thanked

for clarifying the situation. We teach people things, then they stomp off in a huff. Or at least they evaporate off of the thread, only to 'splain at us another time.

[L0oniX]

80. LMFAO

Maybe some day you'll get the facts right.

[BeanMusical]

105. You're an optimist.

[BeanMusical]

104. "don't bother to get involved in or even understand how it actually functions."

Roflmao!

[L0oniX]

110. I guess someone has gone silent ...hiding under a rock maybe. Oh the shame of it.

One of those rare moments in ironic absurdity.

[BeanMusical]

113. Lol!

[Lorien]

57. Sign the petitions:

to remove DWS as DNC chair: http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/remove-debbie-wasserman

And:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-debbie-wasserman-schulz-effective-immediately-chairwoman-dnc-democratic-national-committee

[Enthusiast]

76. Signed

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

62. Because she's been an exceptionally good lap dog to the establishment.

She's earned her bones.

[TransitJohn]

67. Obama won

And a sitting POTUS heads the Party. Obama ousted Howard Dean (whose strategy and groundfame helped Obama immensely) and installed a loyalist, Wasserman-Schultz.

[cantbeserious]

68. DWS - Protecting The Establishment And The Presumptive Nominee

eom

[Dont call me Shirley]

70. A: NO

[d_legendary1]

74. She sold out a long time ago

and is nothing more than an employee working for the man!

[HassleCat]

77. She conforms to the archetype

She's a perfect Third Way Democrat. She straddles a number of issues with finesse. She's loyal to the party, and usually to the president.

[Recursion]

86. Nobody else wants it (nt)

[MannyGoldstein]

92. Howard Dean did.

And he was good at it. But he was dumped in the nastiest legal way possible.

[NuttyFluffers]

87. to forward neo-liberal economics by hamstringing dissent in 2 party system.

one major party full-throatedly supports neo-liberalism, the other major party feigns resistance and lies supine. thus suggesting a narrative that this is all a fait accompli by management of the overton window and the levers of power. one group you bamboozle with anger, the other group you demoralize with weakness, wait for the mindless authoritarians in each party to whip the herd into obedience, and voilà — no actual voice for the populace.

thus no resistance to the rapid run to winner-takes-all strip mining of nations for a global capital elite.

[Warren DeMontague]

89. ...because we need someone who isn't afraid to get tough on crime?

[elleng]

93. hrc wants her.

[marym625]

98. Manny, Manny, Manny.

I put forth the idea that you must have been drunk when you posted this! A respectable, third-way-Manny would never say anything so sacrilegious!

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[mike_c]

101. it is establishment politics of the usual sort....

This is how the professional political class maintains control of the electoral process.

[Puzzledtraveller]

102. Misery loves company

perhaps that's it.

[Uncle Joe]

106. It's not about getting Democrats elected, its' about supporting establishment politics.

Thanks for the thread, MannyGoldstein.

[MerryBlooms]

108. She's against the President's Iran deal

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/08/reports-dnc-chair-blocked-dem-resolution

She was voted in... I nave zero confidence in her. She needs to be gone.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

141. She needs to gone

who is keeping her there?

[NYCButterfinger]

109. DWS is an tough attack dog, as we have seen in previous appearances on TV and the Internet, but it

does not translate into electoral results with 2014. She is clearly for Hillary Clinton, no doubt in my mind. She endorsed Clinton in 2008, and would like to see her as the next president.

[brooklynite]

114. ...because President Obama trusts her?

[MoveIt]

137. Status Quo Says What?

The elites trust her just fine, she's doing what she promised.

[KelleyKramer]

115. She is a Wall Street sell out, fake Dem

She is perfect for the sell out Third Way 'Dems'

Recently she joined the Republicans and voted against pretty much the entire Democratic party for the TPP trade deal

That should tell you all you need to know about DWS

Or look at it from the other side, what if the chairman of the RNC was also a congressman, and the RNC chairman went against all the Republicans and voted to pass Obamacare.

[moondust]

117. Conceivable?

An attempt to give Florida more influence in DC and keep it in the "D" column?

[KelleyKramer]

118. DWS to keep Florida "in the D column" ???

That's funny, you cant be serious?

When DWS was at the DCCC, and your job title is literally "to elect Dems to congress".

DWS gave at least one or two Florida Republican congressmen a full pass

Its not worth the time to look it up, but iirc she either endorsed and/or gave a campaign speech for a Florida Republican congressman, WHILE SHE WAS IN CHARGE OF WINNING THE DEM HOUSE ELECTIONS

[moondust]

119. I doubt

many average voters keep very close track of the details of how well or poorly somebody does their job as an official in one of the political parties.

I think the parties hand out these assignments hoping to influence enough voters to keep the state in their column. That's likely why Boehner is Speaker.

It probably helped Harry Reid keep his seat in Nevada over somebody who would have been a freshman Senator, and probably helped keep Nevada in the "D" column.

[KelleyKramer]

121. You said to get D's in FL, and I give clear evidence of opposite...

I give examples that DWS has little or no interest to get Dems elected in FL

And your response is, again ...

"I think the parties hand out these assignments hoping to influence enough voters to keep the state in their column. "

At first I thought you were nieve, I was wrong, you are full of it

We are done

Good bye

[djean111]

126. I live in Florida, and I keep track. DWS has campaigned for Republicans and also

has declined to support Dems who were running against her GOP buddies.
She is a disgrace.
I do have to thank her, however, for making ir perfectly clear to me that I should donate directly to candidates, and not to the DNC or state party. There is that.

[moondust]

127. In which case

she appears to be in a job she shouldn't be in. Maybe there's somebody else from a swing state who could do the job expected of them.

[Sancho]

157. To answer the question in the OP, "Yes"

there are explanations for DWS heading the DNC besides the insulting term "Hill Shill". That's a bit over the top for our next President.

Regardless, it begs the question (using your word): Since there are no standing Democratic members of Congress who have endorsed Bernie yet, exactly WHO would you suggest should replace DWS and serve the role of "Bernie Shill"?