FiveThirtyEight Endorsement Update: Clinton 322, Biden 16, O'Malley 1, Sanders 0

[Cali_Democrat]

UPDATED 4:17 P.M. EDT | SEPTEMBER 1

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/

[Ken Burch]

1. Endorsements from elected officials are meaningless.

Elected officials always want our nominee to stand for nothing. That's why they preferred Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Gore and Kerry.

[Ron Green]

25. I don't think they're meaningless. I think they mean

the endorsed candidate is toxic to the process of fundamental change.

And if fundamental change is called for....well, there you go.

[Sancho]

46. I'd bet that if Bernie had a hundred endorsements, we'd never hear the end of it on DU!!!

We'd have quotes, counts, and kudos!!!

[workinclasszero]

59. You got that right!

It would be the greatest thing that ever happened!

[DrDan]

64. unless, of course, the endorsements are for one's personal choice of candidates

that's a different story

[Motown_Johnny]

2. Democratic Establishment Members Endorse Democratic Establishment Candidate

Film At 11:00

[BainsBane]

43. Then Bernie is also part of the establishment

because he serves in the same congress those endorsers do.

Not to mention he is seeking office that would make him head of the establishment.

[rurallib]

45. what a stretch

[BainsBane]

52. Explain to me how the presidency is not the establishment?

The system doesn't change because you happen to like the guy who might occupy the Oval Office. It's the same capitalist system, the same capitalist state, the same power structure.

[treestar]

65. A Senator is part of the Establishment

very prestigious office

[VanillaRhapsody]

76. Stretch?

Hes been there 40 years!

[Jamaal510]

47. He's an anti-establishment establishment guy.

[Motown_Johnny]

62. I said Democratic Establishment. He is an independent

Did I really need to include the word 'party' or are you deliberately trying to spin this?

[Mass]

3. Chris Christie has more points than anybody except Bush. This tells me all I need to know.

Also, those are not endorsements, but points based on endorsements

10 for a governor
5 for a senator
1 for a congressman.

[Cali_Democrat]

4. Correct. It's a point system and that's explained at the link.

[Warren DeMontague]

14. beltway dipshits LOVE Chris Christie.

He's the only one promising the DEA that he'll give them the green light to round up pot smokers in legal marijuana states.

For some reason beltway conventional wisdom goofs seem to think "get tough on druggggz" still plays to voters.

[hrmjustin]

5. Very telling.

[Dawgs]

6. Only makes me like Sanders more.

The people want real change this time.

[sufrommich]

7. Well,there's only one solution for this:

[seabeyond]

10. i was just thinking, grabbing handfuls now and chuckin' not just one at a time, under the bus. lol.

[cali]

11. bullshit. I have not a bad word to say about Leahy or.Dean or Kunin

Shumlin is a different story but that has jackshit to do with his endorsing Clinton.

[hrmjustin]

26. It is not only about you. Plenty here are throwing Dean under the bus today.

[Ishoutandscream2]

27. But the world revolves around her

By the way, ain't she sweet?

[hrmjustin]

28. She called me absurdly partisan today. I had to laugh because of the source.

http://election.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=564307

[tammywammy]

18. That's a hilarious pic.

[DCBob]

8. Bernie cant get one single endorsement

WTF??

[cali]

13. And he's still competitive with Hillary in Iowa and New Hampshire, pointing

out how weak a candidate she will be in the general.

[DCBob]

19. Iowa and NH are not representative of the general population.

Regardless its still remarkable the Bern cant land a single endorsement. What about Elizabeth Warren and the other "real" progressives?

[jfern]

60. They don't want to be on the Clinton enemy list

[Agschmid]

63. They should grow a spine.

[cali]

9. endorsements certainly have value as super delegates, but voters don't give a shit

[HereSince1628]

15. Bandwagon effect is real, I suspect -some- people respond to endorsements as part of that.

In which case, who your wife, BFF, or significant members of a person's circle of associates probably do impact choices.

I think the more educated a person is, the less they -want- someone else to be doing their thinking for them. But it seems quite possible to me that people could value the opinion of people whose opinions they really value.

[Stallion]

12. Maybe Democrats Should Care

maybe these very knowledgeable Democrats think that Sanders will drive the party to a historic loss like the last few truly liberal Democratic candidates. I mean its almost unanimous- I wonder why?

[cali]

16. oh don't worry hilly will get the nomination

And lose us the general.

And I'll blame them for shoving her down our throat for years.

[Stallion]

17. This Is Going to be a Walkover for Hillary

here's Hillary's list-there's a lot of Democrats I admire and respect on there-even from the liberal wing of the party

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/#endorsements

[peacebird]

32. Sadly she has many dems like me that will refuse to vote for her.

I will write in my choice

[peacebird]

35. Me too

[sufrommich]

40. Well,it's good to know that you agree with you.

Oopsie.

[peacebird]

41. Hillary will lose to Bernie, her favorables are declining, his are rising

[seabeyond]

42. ya. oopsie. fuck

[DCBob]

20. She will win both the nom and the general.

I would bet money on it.

[cali]

22. I don't think you hill supporters get it

A strong majority of voters doesn't trust her. She doesn't excite people and she doesn't bring new voters in

[DCBob]

33. But they trust the GOP less.. much less.

I think she will excite many once things get heated up... especially women and minorities... two groups Bernie certainly doesn't excite.

[peacebird]

36. I think you are wrong, very wrong. I am a woman who is very interested in Bernie

As president

[DCBob]

37. Well.. there's one.

Congrats!

[peacebird]

38. No woman I know thinks Hillary is a good choice

[DCBob]

39. Im sure.

Peace

[Fawke Em]

53. I'm also a woman for Bernie.

I live in a red Southern state, although my city is blue.

All the people I know on my social media accounts - men and women - who vote Democratic are Bernie supporters.

In fact, the only HRC supporter I'm aware of is an elected official and a female. And I really like this woman and campaigned for her. I don't begrudge her choice and I'm sure she'd be happy to vote for Bernie should he get the nomination.

Odd that it seems the elected officials are lining up for her, but the people are lining up for Bernie.

[hack89]

70. My wife and daughter certainly do.

along with many of my woman friends.

[Fawke Em]

51. Perhaps. But without excitement and a candidate they can trust, they may just stay home.

Look at the 2010 and 2014 elections.

The DNC offered more of the "same old, same old" Third Way and corporate Democrats and the people stayed home.

It's not that all these Democrats suddenly decided to vote Republican. They just plain didn't vote.

[DCBob]

67. Minorities may stay home if Bernie is the candidate.

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Unless things change dramatically between now and then.

[jfern]

61. "We suck less" was such a winner last year

[DCBob]

66. Unfortunately that the nature of game we play now.

No matter who is the candidate.

[cali]

68. not a chance.

[DCBob]

73. I think there's a good chance.

Especially when looking at the alternative. The Republican nominee will scare voters into enthusiasm for Hillary.

[HappyPlace]

74. The Lorus poll tells us who supports Clinton and who supports Sanders.

But I think it's skewed: not enough people know both candidates well enough to draw conclusions from the Lorus poll:

More here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251566844

[jeff47]

21. They've already got a plan for that.

Clinton's in danger in the general if there's low Democratic turnout.

So the establishment will go back to it's usual move in this situation: "The people are all lazy and morons!!!".

Gee, I wonder why we have turnout issues....

[Puzzledtraveller]

23. Can you turn endorsements in like Chuck-e-Cheese tickets

and get a prize?

[revmclaren]

31. The presidency is the prize....

endorsements and votes are the tickets.

Sad, but true.

[OilemFirchen]

24. Don't need no endorsements...

Plays by sense of smell.

[Hiraeth]

75. He's a pinball wizard .. got sucha supple wrist. How do you think HE does it? I don't know.

Go Bernie Go !!

[djean111]

29. Oh dang! And I just now got my Bernie bumper sticker.

On the other hand, Liz Warren could call me or come over to my house and ask me to switch my support to Hillary, and I would decline.

[peacebird]

30. So corporate dems support the corporate dem..? Big shock.

Bernie, however, will win!

[Scootaloo]

34. Hey Cali_Democrat, been meaning to ask you...

Do you get any sense of irony from your signature image?

Anyway, on topic. Well over half of Clinton's endorsements came before anyone else was running.

[Fawke Em]

54. Good question.

LOL!

There's another HRC supporter on here who has an anti-XL Pipeline button in her signature line. I guess the irony is lost on that one as well.

[Historic NY]

44. EXcept many are those critical Super Delegates...............

so rant on your going to need them to win. I propose to alienate ever one of them.

[Jamaal510]

48. That doesn't look good

for him when none of the people he works with want to vouch for him. Even Obama had more endorsements at this point in the 2008 campaign. He's lucky that MSNBC and elsewhere in the media haven't touched on this topic yet and have been busier picking apart HC and covering the latest Donald Trump circuses.

[malokvale77]

55. The way I figure...

NOT being endorsed by the worst congress in history, makes Bernie a winner.

Go Bernie go.

[JackInGreen]

56. Not surprising

No one likes the person that says the free money party is over. We don't need endorsements from the hogs at the trough when the people's endorsement is far more important.

[neverforget]

57. I propose we get rid of voting and have our betters (super delegates) choose our

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nominee. That way we don't have to trouble ourselves with who we think is best for us because they already know.

just in case

[Cha]

58. Hillary Can Win!

[cali]

69. doubtful.

[Amimnoch]

71. ROFL. Doubtful the front runner will win??

Is there no limit to the delusions?

[Vinca]

72. Endorsements aren't written in stone.

I remember a whole lot of them jumping Hillary's ship in 2008.

[Thinkingabout]

77. Huummm, was this on the convention floor?

[Vinca]

78. No. Before.

Here's one example -

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/feb/28/nation/na-endorse28

[restorefreedom]

79. the only endorsement that matters

are the ones at the ballot box.

the dem machine supporting clinton is more evidece of why bernie is going to win.

and the fact that they are happy about these "endorsements" just solidifies how out of touch they really are.

friends, this is what revolution looks like

[99Forever]

80. What a surprise.

Establishment lackeys endorse the Corporate Approved 1%er and Militarist.

BFD.