Hillary Clinton to Deliver Major Speech on the Iran Deal

[riversedge]

Walker is slip-sliding away into the Irrelevant category. too bad is not quite relegated to the kiddie table for the next debate.
Looking forward to the speech.


http://jpupdates.com/2015/08/31/hillary-clinton-to-deliver-major-speech-on-the-iran-deal/

Hillary Clinton to Deliver Major Speech on the Iran Deal


by Jacob Kornbluh


Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is expected to deliver a speech on the Iran nuclear deal on September 9th, two days before the 14th anniversary of 9/11.


................ Clinton spoke of her strong endorsement of President Barack Obama’s Iran deal, and said she plans to deliver a big speech on the issue on Sept. 9, the same day Republican presidential candidates Donald Trump and Ted Cruz plan to hold a mass rally against the Iran deal at the U.S. Capitol, Politico reported.

With momentum growing for the White House, in securing enough votes to sustain a presidential veto of the Republican’s disapproval of the deal, Clinton has recently strengthened her support for the deal, saying that “all bets are off” if the deal is struck down by Congress.
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In July, after endorsing the deal, the former Secretary of State said, “I think this is an important step that puts the lid on Iran’s nuclear programs and it will enable us then to turn our attention as it must to doing what we can with other partners in the region and beyond to try to prevent and contain Iran’s other bad actions.”

On the same day of Hillary’s speech, Republican presidential hopefuls Ted Cruz,and Donald Trump will join the Tea Party Patriots, Zionist Organization of America and Center for Security Policy to protest the “bad Iran deal” on the West Lawn of the United States Capitol.

On Friday, Scott Walker suggested that Clinton’s support for the Iran nuclear deal makes her unfit to serve as Commander in Chief and be considered a friend of Israel.

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08/31/2015 12:59 AM by Jacob Kornbluh

[msrizzo]

1. Should definitely be interesting.

Great!

[SunSeeker]

2. K & R

[Skwmom]

3. Hmm... Part of an Obama/Biden/Clinton deal? n/t

[Cha]

6. Hmm? What are you even suggesting?

[pnwmom]

25. No, part of an Obama/Biden/Clinton/Sanders/O'Malley and every other Dem with sense deal.

[karynnj]

41. you mean Obama/Kerry/Moniz before adding anyone else

[azurnoir]

4. I'm sure she will - now

[azurnoir]

14. well this is an interesting article on at least one of her donars

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/08/13/top-hillary-clinton-donor-clarifies-stance-on-iran-nuclear-deal/

[Buns_of_Fire]

16. I apologize for deleting my post just as you responded to it.

I looked it over and thought, "Nah. Why pour gas on a fire?"

[azurnoir]

18. well that's okay although I prefer kerosine as an accelerant

[askew]

5. Hope she doesn't screw up the deal.

We have enough Dems onboard now and don't need her screwing anything up.

Also, hope she has the decency to not take credit for Kerry's incredible work on this deal.

[Cha]

7. Hillary's not "scewing up" anything.. Of course, she's for it.. President Obama and SOS Kerry & VP

Biden have done an Awesome job.

[riversedge]

15. 1+

[Cha]

17. KICK!

[Evergreen Emerald]

27. Actually, Clinton set the stage for the deal during her SOS term

by making sure all the countries were on board with the sanctions. She worked diligently to pave the way for this deal.

[askew]

33. Stop the lies.

Hillary played a minor supporting role in the sanctions. Obama did the heavy lifting on them. And Kerry did all the work on the Iran deal. Hillary was irrelevant. Same with Cuba deal where she tried to steal credit from Kerry.

[Cha]

36. No, Pres Obama's SOS Hillary was not "irrelevant".. no matter how much you wish to spin it.

[karynnj]

42. irrelevant goes too far, but it is ridiculous not

To see that Obama and Kerry did far far more. Note that Rohani was needed and he was elected after she left office.

There were articles speaking of the Oman channel set up when she was SoS, but it was JK sent as the one to set this up. William Burns and Jake Sullivan were involved in some early secret negotiations which were largely unsuccessful.

Kerry was the one who worked directly with Zarif and his partners for a huge amount of time. HRC did not even do much to back the interim agreement or even the framework. Where she does deserve credit is backing the deal soon after it was announced. Consider that the MANY times it was thought the talks had failed, it was primarily Kerry and Obama said to have failed.

[Cha]

45. Of course they did more, karyn. You know I always acknowledge the work Pres Obama and SOS

Kerry do.

[karynnj]

46. I know you do and should have written the response differently

I was responding to both your point and the points in the thread to that point.

In fact, in responding to Stephanopolis, John Kerry speaking of HRC after speaking of her success in restoring our relations with the rest of the world, included the very early work on Iran. She played a role.

The push back is that there is a real pattern of people around HRC claiming more credit than her role deserves rather than just explaining her very real positive role.

[Evergreen Emerald]

37. I am so sorry that you have blinded yourself with such....furvor in

hating everything Clinton does or stands for such that you must discredit her work. You must not think much of your candidate if you cannot even give credit where credit is due.

[teach me everything]

39. Then explain Honduras

That's why I'm still on the fence.

[mylye2222]

52. And dont forget the Afghanistan one where JK clearly was close to stop a civil war.

Then in her book Hard Choices, she self attributed the merits.

[Cha]

34. I agree, EE.. Pres Obama's SOS Hillary worked hard to start the Process and Obama, Kerry, & Biden

have handled it excellently since Hillary excellently paved the way.

They're all in this together.

[MBS]

9. for sure, Kerry deserves HUGE credit for his work on this

In fact, I think he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. . . or at the very least, the support of congressional Democrats, for God's sake. (Don't get me started on Menendez, Schumer and Wasserman Schultz)
He, with Wendy Sherman and Ernie Moniz, have been AMAZING.
Putting incredible energy and creativity into actually doing good. Major kudos to Kerry and his team for this major, major step forward.

[karynnj]

44. agree completely

There are not many who would design recovery from a serious femur fracture to insure that no time was lost on making this deal. From getting secure phone lines in a Boston hospital so he could both work and recover to taking only Tylenol for pain.

On a happier note, his longtime friendship with Moniz meant the two worked together without the typical ego issues that many cabinet heads would have working together

[MBS]

48. Yes, the teamwork aspect was one of the best parts.

You could just tell by the way Kerry and Moniz talked at the joint press conference- just this warm mutual appreciation understanding. At one of the press conferences Moniz himself noted how well the State Dept and DOE teams worked together -"seamlessly", he said- without the distraction of competing dept priorities or one person or dept trying to hog the credit . There was the complementary expertise, of course - both diplomatic and deep knowledge of nuclear technology being essential to this enterprise - coupled to a common goal. And all that was remarkable in itself.
But there was crossover of expertise, too. It was known that Moniz' Iranian counterpart had been trained at MIT. During the negotiations, the joint team also learned that the Iranian nuclear expert just had a new grandson. So Moniz acquired a piece of MIT baby clothing (T-shirt? onesie?) and presented it to his counterpart. Brilliant. And, like all successful diplomacy, so attentive to the individual people involved.

This was as inspired and inspiring piece of diplomacy as I've seen (well, read about) in decades.
And it makes me proud of my country every time I think about it.
It would be a tragedy to let all this work -- all this effective work -- be derailed by our insane Congress. (Yes, thank God, there are now enough "yes" votes to prevent an override of Obama's veto- and perhaps there will be more. But McConnell is already talking about ways to extend the sanctions anyway, among other stupid schemes. Boy oh boy am i sick of Republican games).

Republicans and Democrats who oppose this deal are fools. They are small-minded, war-mongering, ignorant, and/or way too beholden to small-minded, fear-driven, war-mongering, ignorant donors and voters.
And on the wrong side of history.

Some recent article noted that "some" congress members found that, compared to Moniz' patient explanations of the science (and bravo to him for that- if there were ever any example of why it's important that scientists also be good teachers, able to explain their work to the public, this is it) , some of Kerry's recent presentations were a little condescending. Well, if he sounded to them condescending or impatient, I could certainly understand why.

The thought of these fools potentially creating international havoc, and damaging the reputation of the US, were they to succeed in derailing this agreement, makes me just tear my hair out.

[karynnj]

49. agree on everything

As to condescending, the authors of that NYT article have pushed that description of Kerry since at least 2004. We saw that Kerry occasionally WAS frustrated by intentionally dishonest and stupid questions at the hearings. Sometimes this included questions based on Republicans deliberately taking his earlier comments completely out of context.

However, he never returned the worst of their rudeness and likely out of respect for the position always answered the questions. It was the Republican Congressmen and Senators, including a few running for President, who treated Kerry with condescension and almost as if he was on trial for some transgression.

I might trust that author more if he had ever labeled Netanyahu arrogant and condesending.

[MBS]

51. oh, yes-

especially your observation about their treatment of Netanyahu, the very personification of arrogance.

[left-of-center2012]

8. Playing catch up?

"Aug 7, 2015 - Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who is vying for the Democratic presidential nomination, announced his support Friday for the Iran nuclear deal ..."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/07/bernie-sanders-announces-support-for-iran-nuclear-deal/

[SonderWoman]

12. Someone's playing catch up, but it ain't Hillary:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-comes-out-in-favor-of-obamas-iran-deal/
July 14th.

[AtomicKitten]

19. 4-2-15 Bernie & Al Franken endorse Iran deal.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/04/02/bernie-sanders-al-franken-speak-support-iran-nuclear-agreement.html

[beam me up scottie]

26. Oopsie!

[teach me everything]

40. Ouch, the bern! n/t

[Metric System]

13. Yes, Bernie was playing catch up, seeing as she came out in support in July:

http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-supports-iran-nuclear-deal-2015-7

[senz]

21. Nah, Bernie supported it in April. See AtomicKitten's comment above yours.

[Cha]

29. Oh? Is BS giving President Obama Credit for this? & SOS Kerry & VP Biden? you know "the

establishment"?

[6chars]

11. She will emphasize her support for the deal and for Israel

You owe me $100 if I'm right!

[jalan48]

20. Good to see she waited until it was a sure thing.

[DCBob]

22. Good.. and in fact she should take some of the credit..

as I am sure she did lay some of initial groundwork.

[senz]

23. What makes a speech a "major" speech?

[Android3.14]

24. Suuuure, now that the conclusion is foregone

Let's here how she provided some leadership on this.
Sheesh.

[Evergreen Emerald]

28. Please open your mind. You must think much of your candidate

if you must attack another to make yours look better. Clinton, as SOS paved the way for this deal. She worked behind the scenes to make sure the parties were continuing sanctions in preparation for the deal.

[Android3.14]

30. Following Clinton is what requires a closed mind

I'd much rather have her as Sec. of State than President Screw-you-guys-it's-my-turn

[Evergreen Emerald]

31. Odd response. n/t

[askew]

32. No she didn't.

Hillary and her supporters taking credit for others' hard work never stops. Hillary played a minor part in setting up sanctions. Obama was the big driver behind it. Kerry did the work to get Iran Peace deal. It's incredibly offensive for her to steal credit from those who did the real work and it just turns off all thinking Dems who know the facts.

[Evergreen Emerald]

38. How would you know? Please tell me the steps it takes to set up sanctions and to make sure all the

countries who were not wanting to maintain them for as long as we needed. Please tell me how easy it was to soften the Iranians and meet with them to set up the negotiations.

Wow. So difficult for you to acknowledge that Clinton did one thing, anything good. It is a shame that you must dehumanize her in order to justify supporting your candidate.

[karynnj]

43. setting up the sanctions was an international effort

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Many people including Netanyahu demand credit. Of them, Obama and HRC deserve most credit getting important countries like China, that trades more with Iran than the US on board.

However, the sanctions only got Iran to the table. There were then two very intense years of negotiation. As Dick Lugar pointed out that involved hours of negotiating. Not just to get a deal with Iran, but to keep all 6 countries, with real differences on the same page. That was indefatibly done by Kerry, who clearly put his incredible intelligence, creativity, passion and heart into it. He and Moniz, a long time friend, worked unbelievably well together maximizing both of their different talents.

There are sanctions placed on many countries and they passed our Congress near unanimously. Getting US sanctions was not heavy lifting. The international ones were harder, but the European countries started working on this long before the US joined the effort.

There are many people, from many countries, who deserve credit, but if you are limited to 6 it would be Obama, Kerry, and Moniz and their Iranian counterparts.

[Thinkingabout]

35. Of course Hillary is for the Iran Deal, it does not make any sense for any other decision.

Bet there will be more speeches on the Iran deal also, huh.

[SwampG8r]

47. What will this be the interview for?

Or.will she tell us when she's president?

[Vinca]

50. Is she actually going to tell us her own position? Really??

I thought we were supposed to wait until after the election.