2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton is doing VERY WELL in Arkansas!
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Not so well in her adopted home state of New York and much of the rest of the country.
You can take the presidential quiz yourself: https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz
The results tell you which candidate most agrees with your views, it's not about which candidate you say you'll vote for.
Bernie's doing well. I like the look of this map.
Among 976,715 voters surveyed:
http://www.isidewith.com/map/d~6L/2016-presidential-election-hillary-clinton-vs-bernie-sanders#z3
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)HappyPlace
(568 posts)What, don't tell me, Hawaii and Alaska refusing to get on board again?
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)HappyPlace
(568 posts)We'll just let Vermont go....
But we want Florida and South Carolina and Virginia!
Renew Deal
(81,939 posts)HappyPlace
(568 posts)I think that was about Palin.
I don't know if it ever resolved.
Anyway, this might be an Internet poll, but with an N near 1,000,000 the results have some significance.
Conclusive, hell no, but not without value.
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beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)care to bet against that?
HappyPlace
(568 posts)Now I want you to take the survey and tell us the results.
https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz
Which candidate is more like you?
That's what the map shows, it's not about who participants selected, it's about agreement by candidates on issues with your POV.
Come on, do it!
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)questionseverything
(9,679 posts)nearly all of illinois is sanders country
i knew from interaction he seemed to have a whole lot of support but this is a huge sample and bernie is rocking it!!
wyldwolf
(43,875 posts)HappyPlace
(568 posts)It gives feedback in a sophisticated way, showing how much your views align with all the candidates and with your local legislative districts.
I say that you didn't vote at all, and just want to dismiss this instrument.
For shame.
You should actually take the survey and then get back to us.
wyldwolf
(43,875 posts)For shame, LOL.
It's also a fact that "complex multi-question survey" has been spread throughout Bernie groups across the web.
The "complex multi-question survey" isn't bias, but the results are skewed.
brooklynite
(95,369 posts)HappyPlace
(568 posts)I've never heard of a compulsory poll being used in politics.
brooklynite
(95,369 posts)...and leaving your pool choice to whomever shows up at your website.
HappyPlace
(568 posts)Regular phone polls are quite skewed toward the respondents' characteristics, despite efforts to adjust to these factors.
Phone polls are often done from lists of registered voters, and respondents tend to use land lines, don't screen calls, are willing to participate.
This online poll, with an N on the HRC v BS question nearly 1,000,000, samples politically engaged users of the internet.
I don't know how the respondents find the survey, but that would be interesting.
It never really asked me who I would vote for, it told me whom was most aligned with my views based on my answers. Bernie was first, Hillary was second, I don't remember the rest.
Thus, it asks what you think about a number of topics and then picks the candidate for you.
This reminds me of the Belief-O-Matic website survey that tells you how closely you align to different world religions. I'm a Theravada Buddhist by nature.
You should take the survey and see if you're closer to Senator Clinton or Senator Sanders.
wyldwolf
(43,875 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Thanks for the survey. Very interesting.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Interesting since it is one of the four early states and uses a caucus system.
With him being well ahead in NH and closing the gap in IO, Hillary might lose 3 of the first 4.
P.S. The map at the link is interactive. If you hover your cursor over a district it gives you the exact poll numbers.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)I mean, that steppingstone was so long ago...
HappyPlace
(568 posts)If you take the test in the link it tells you who's views are similar to yours.
It appears that Hillary's are similar to people's in Arkansas.
https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Hillary's history has been using places and people as steppingstones to get to what she wanted.
This Goldwater Girl from Illinois was willing to move to Arkansas and pretend to act like a Southerner to get to be the first lady of the state, then do what she had to do to get to be FLOTUS, then act like a Northeasterner to get her own political career in the US Senate, then go to work for an 'enemy' as his Secretary of State to burnish her foreign policy credentials.
It seems she'll do whatever it takes to get that power, no matter who she has to pretend to like, or what crap she has to put up with to not slide off that steppingstone. I would imagine that the people of Arkansas are feeling pretty used by her at this point.
HappyPlace
(568 posts)When I posted this I assumed it was a simple poll, "who would you vote for?" questions.
But it never asks. Instead, it asks how you feel about different issues and then matches you up with all the candidates by % agreement.
To me, that makes it more valid than a simple "who do you like" poll which would give greater strength to mere name recognition.
pnwmom
(109,039 posts)HappyPlace
(568 posts)I don't think so.
First, it's not like a fox news binary poll, you have to take a survey and then it just tells you which candidate most agrees with your answers.
That it takes time to complete is significant.
https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz
Does it reflect regional differences with as much accuracy as a traditional phone poll of, say, 1,000 likely voters?
I think it does.
pnwmom
(109,039 posts)be a scientifically valid poll that would reflect the views of hundreds of millions of Americans.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)HappyPlace
(568 posts)Or are you just reacting to the results of the survey.
If you take the survey, you might find that Sanders agrees with you more than Clinton does.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)Tells a whole lot about why people think what they do, math and science be damned.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)You sure do spend an awful lot of time helping HC supporters rain on Bernie's parade for someone who hasn't chosen a candidate.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Link: http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/more-and-more-americans-agree-bernie-sanders-and-not-just-those-who-identify-left
But the (s)election process isn't really about issues. It's about money and perception.
pnwmom
(109,039 posts)and for people who hold positions at variance with theirs.
Most people seem to vote with their guts, rather than their brains. That's why they're flocking to Trump.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)And, it looks like Bernie is doing very well in my state of Washington.