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HappyPlace

(568 posts)
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:12 PM Sep 2015

Hillary Clinton is doing VERY WELL in Arkansas!

Last edited Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:01 PM - Edit history (1)

Not so well in her adopted home state of New York and much of the rest of the country.

You can take the presidential quiz yourself: https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz

The results tell you which candidate most agrees with your views, it's not about which candidate you say you'll vote for.

Bernie's doing well. I like the look of this map.

Among 976,715 voters surveyed:



http://www.isidewith.com/map/d~6L/2016-presidential-election-hillary-clinton-vs-bernie-sanders#z3

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Hillary Clinton is doing VERY WELL in Arkansas! (Original Post) HappyPlace Sep 2015 OP
And 48 other states! SonderWoman Sep 2015 #1
Only 48??? HappyPlace Sep 2015 #3
48 other, meaning 49. I'm guessing Bernie will take VT? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #7
We'll let Clinton have Vermont. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #16
Internet polls were the first sign President Ron Paul was going to win. Renew Deal Sep 2015 #2
Don't make me pull up PBS Poll 435! HappyPlace Sep 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author SonderWoman Sep 2015 #9
Oh my! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #4
In the primary. She'll lose it in the general election. jfern Sep 2015 #6
57% chance she won't VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #11
212% chance she loses the primary, never sees the general. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #24
In which case we lose the general unless Biden runs. leftofcool Sep 2015 #36
wowzers! questionseverything Sep 2015 #8
I know, right? I just voted in it for the third time! wyldwolf Sep 2015 #10
Doubtful. You don't just "vote", it's a complex multi-question survey. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #15
Completely true. The "complex multi-question survey" is a vote. 4th time this morning. wyldwolf Sep 2015 #32
You like an opt-in internet poll question? brooklynite Sep 2015 #12
All polls are opt-in polls. I've never seen any other type. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #14
But there's a difference in assembling a balancing response group... brooklynite Sep 2015 #18
While it may not be truly representative of a cross section, it's still representative. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #19
"While it may not be truly representative of a cross section" - THAT is the point. wyldwolf Sep 2015 #34
whoa. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #13
Woohoo azmom Sep 2015 #17
Cool map. k&r AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #20
96% Bernie. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #42
NV seems to be leaning towards Bernie. Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #21
Hmm, they still remember her in Arkansas? customerserviceguy Sep 2015 #22
The methodology isn't based on candidate choice, but on similar views... HappyPlace Sep 2015 #23
... SidDithers Sep 2015 #25
My point was customerserviceguy Sep 2015 #39
It's all very interesting, and I don't disagree. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #40
A self-selected internet poll is worth the paper it's written on. pnwmom Sep 2015 #26
One million participants, is it totally worthless? HappyPlace Sep 2015 #27
As a poll, it's worthless. You could have ten times that number and it still wouldn't pnwmom Sep 2015 #28
Do you really not understand how legitimate and accurate polls work? nt stevenleser Sep 2015 #29
Well, this is not a poll. This is a voluntary survey. Did you take it? HappyPlace Sep 2015 #30
You argued its worth something. Again, do you not understand how legitimate polling works? nt stevenleser Sep 2015 #31
One of the best posts I can imagine on this topic. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #41
Do you lecture everyone when they post polls favourable to their candidate or are we special? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #33
Many polls show the same. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #35
But the sad fact is, it's very very common for people to vote against their self-interest pnwmom Sep 2015 #37
Interesting poll. I come out 96% Bernie and 92% Green. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #38
 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
16. We'll let Clinton have Vermont.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:43 PM
Sep 2015

We'll just let Vermont go....

But we want Florida and South Carolina and Virginia!

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
5. Don't make me pull up PBS Poll 435!
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:20 PM
Sep 2015

I think that was about Palin.

I don't know if it ever resolved.

Anyway, this might be an Internet poll, but with an N near 1,000,000 the results have some significance.

Conclusive, hell no, but not without value.

Response to HappyPlace (Reply #5)

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
24. 212% chance she loses the primary, never sees the general.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:03 PM
Sep 2015

Now I want you to take the survey and tell us the results.

https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz

Which candidate is more like you?

That's what the map shows, it's not about who participants selected, it's about agreement by candidates on issues with your POV.

Come on, do it!

questionseverything

(9,679 posts)
8. wowzers!
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:21 PM
Sep 2015

nearly all of illinois is sanders country

i knew from interaction he seemed to have a whole lot of support but this is a huge sample and bernie is rocking it!!

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
15. Doubtful. You don't just "vote", it's a complex multi-question survey.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:42 PM
Sep 2015

It gives feedback in a sophisticated way, showing how much your views align with all the candidates and with your local legislative districts.

I say that you didn't vote at all, and just want to dismiss this instrument.

For shame.

You should actually take the survey and then get back to us.

wyldwolf

(43,875 posts)
32. Completely true. The "complex multi-question survey" is a vote. 4th time this morning.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 05:58 AM
Sep 2015

For shame, LOL.

It's also a fact that "complex multi-question survey" has been spread throughout Bernie groups across the web.

The "complex multi-question survey" isn't bias, but the results are skewed.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
14. All polls are opt-in polls. I've never seen any other type.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:36 PM
Sep 2015

I've never heard of a compulsory poll being used in politics.

brooklynite

(95,369 posts)
18. But there's a difference in assembling a balancing response group...
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 09:02 PM
Sep 2015

...and leaving your pool choice to whomever shows up at your website.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
19. While it may not be truly representative of a cross section, it's still representative.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 09:15 PM
Sep 2015

Regular phone polls are quite skewed toward the respondents' characteristics, despite efforts to adjust to these factors.

Phone polls are often done from lists of registered voters, and respondents tend to use land lines, don't screen calls, are willing to participate.

This online poll, with an N on the HRC v BS question nearly 1,000,000, samples politically engaged users of the internet.

I don't know how the respondents find the survey, but that would be interesting.

It never really asked me who I would vote for, it told me whom was most aligned with my views based on my answers. Bernie was first, Hillary was second, I don't remember the rest.

Thus, it asks what you think about a number of topics and then picks the candidate for you.

This reminds me of the Belief-O-Matic website survey that tells you how closely you align to different world religions. I'm a Theravada Buddhist by nature.

You should take the survey and see if you're closer to Senator Clinton or Senator Sanders.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
21. NV seems to be leaning towards Bernie.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 10:46 PM
Sep 2015

Interesting since it is one of the four early states and uses a caucus system.


With him being well ahead in NH and closing the gap in IO, Hillary might lose 3 of the first 4.


P.S. The map at the link is interactive. If you hover your cursor over a district it gives you the exact poll numbers.





 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
23. The methodology isn't based on candidate choice, but on similar views...
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:00 PM
Sep 2015

If you take the test in the link it tells you who's views are similar to yours.

It appears that Hillary's are similar to people's in Arkansas.

https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
39. My point was
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 11:23 AM
Sep 2015

Hillary's history has been using places and people as steppingstones to get to what she wanted.

This Goldwater Girl from Illinois was willing to move to Arkansas and pretend to act like a Southerner to get to be the first lady of the state, then do what she had to do to get to be FLOTUS, then act like a Northeasterner to get her own political career in the US Senate, then go to work for an 'enemy' as his Secretary of State to burnish her foreign policy credentials.

It seems she'll do whatever it takes to get that power, no matter who she has to pretend to like, or what crap she has to put up with to not slide off that steppingstone. I would imagine that the people of Arkansas are feeling pretty used by her at this point.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
40. It's all very interesting, and I don't disagree.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 12:29 PM
Sep 2015

When I posted this I assumed it was a simple poll, "who would you vote for?" questions.

But it never asks. Instead, it asks how you feel about different issues and then matches you up with all the candidates by % agreement.

To me, that makes it more valid than a simple "who do you like" poll which would give greater strength to mere name recognition.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
27. One million participants, is it totally worthless?
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:17 PM
Sep 2015

I don't think so.

First, it's not like a fox news binary poll, you have to take a survey and then it just tells you which candidate most agrees with your answers.

That it takes time to complete is significant.

https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz

Does it reflect regional differences with as much accuracy as a traditional phone poll of, say, 1,000 likely voters?

I think it does.

pnwmom

(109,039 posts)
28. As a poll, it's worthless. You could have ten times that number and it still wouldn't
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:19 PM
Sep 2015

be a scientifically valid poll that would reflect the views of hundreds of millions of Americans.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
30. Well, this is not a poll. This is a voluntary survey. Did you take it?
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 12:03 AM
Sep 2015

Or are you just reacting to the results of the survey.

If you take the survey, you might find that Sanders agrees with you more than Clinton does.

 

SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
41. One of the best posts I can imagine on this topic.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 12:44 PM
Sep 2015

Tells a whole lot about why people think what they do, math and science be damned.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
33. Do you lecture everyone when they post polls favourable to their candidate or are we special?
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 06:02 AM
Sep 2015

You sure do spend an awful lot of time helping HC supporters rain on Bernie's parade for someone who hasn't chosen a candidate.


pnwmom

(109,039 posts)
37. But the sad fact is, it's very very common for people to vote against their self-interest
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:04 AM
Sep 2015

and for people who hold positions at variance with theirs.

Most people seem to vote with their guts, rather than their brains. That's why they're flocking to Trump.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
38. Interesting poll. I come out 96% Bernie and 92% Green.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 11:08 AM
Sep 2015

And, it looks like Bernie is doing very well in my state of Washington.

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