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This is why Hillary can't win... (Original Post) Cosmic Kitten Sep 2015 OP
That looks like a respectable crowd of 80, maybe 90... reformist2 Sep 2015 #1
By 'respectable' I assume you mean nice, decent people? Cosmic Kitten Sep 2015 #3
I was being silly, facetious. She clearly doesn't inspire people like she used to... reformist2 Sep 2015 #4
lol Cosmic Kitten Sep 2015 #5
Looks like 80 or 90 white people. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #16
No. She packed a 4,000 seat center with the help of other candidates. Skwmom Sep 2015 #2
Team Clinton did a lot of image management at that event Cosmic Kitten Sep 2015 #7
She's beginning to SOUND like Bernie. Which is good, the more he can get HIS message out sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #13
I'm sure she told Kanye, the Kartrashians, and the grocery chain mogul *just* that! SMC22307 Sep 2015 #18
I agree, not all those people were there for Hillary Autumn Sep 2015 #15
Is it the dark blue pantsuit? DCBob Sep 2015 #6
Dark or royal blue Cosmic Kitten Sep 2015 #8
Poor Hillary left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #9
Well, the DNC et al is/was trying to hand her the nomination Cosmic Kitten Sep 2015 #10
What is an inflatable clapper? marym625 Sep 2015 #11
So if I can show you a crowd of the same size for Bernie, that means he can't win? brooklynite Sep 2015 #12
It depends on why the crowd is there. For Bernie the crowds are to hear someone finally who actually sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #14
Reminds me of the McCain crowds Joe the Revelator Sep 2015 #17
bomb, bomb, bomb, aspirant Sep 2015 #22
I watched her on CBS this morning spinbaby Sep 2015 #19
Oh please. She's purposely holding small town hall's and you're trying to use it against her? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #20
Lolz... Holding a limited size event is one thing Cosmic Kitten Sep 2015 #21
Where's Waldo? AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #25
Oh I get it... the empty chairs are a color of the spectrum your eyes can't discern. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #32
As a 56 year old political junky one thing I've learned bigdarryl Sep 2015 #23
Small venues are fine Cosmic Kitten Sep 2015 #24
What does that even mean? That she invites only selected guests to her events? reformist2 Sep 2015 #26
Why is that a reason she can't win? MineralMan Sep 2015 #27
former first lady, presidential candidate... Cosmic Kitten Sep 2015 #28
Which gymnasium was that? What day? MineralMan Sep 2015 #29
"You've stated your opinion" aspirant Sep 2015 #30
OK. To what are you aspiring? MineralMan Sep 2015 #31

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
1. That looks like a respectable crowd of 80, maybe 90...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 08:44 AM
Sep 2015

...of course, that's counting all the people standing behind her, who probably had to be there.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
3. By 'respectable' I assume you mean nice, decent people?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 08:53 AM
Sep 2015

Because if the Democratic front runner
can't muster a crowd larger that about
80 people, we won't win the general election.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
16. Looks like 80 or 90 white people.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 11:10 AM
Sep 2015

Perhaps the email invites to the others were inadvertently wiped.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
7. Team Clinton did a lot of image management at that event
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:07 AM
Sep 2015

There was about 4000 attendees
but they were not all there for Hillary.

Blowing well past the 15 to 20 minutes allotted to candidates, Clinton spoke for 45 minute, delivering a forceful stump speech using a teleprompter, which was absent in other recent events.

“I am sick of multimillionaires paying a lower tax rate than a teacher or nurse. That is wrong,” Clinton said to cheers, vowing to close the carried interest loophole.

The reception showcased the Clinton campaign’s organization muscle, which was used to fill the Verizon Wireless Arena with hundreds of enthusiastic supporters. The campaign handed out 700 t-shirts, along hundreds of sets of inflatable clappers, and signs printed with Clinton’s logo, which filled the stands when she came on stage.


She's "sick" that she and her millionaire
donors aren't paying enough taxes!!!!
Bwahahahaha

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
13. She's beginning to SOUND like Bernie. Which is good, the more he can get HIS message out
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:36 AM
Sep 2015

the better. But SOUNDING good isn't going to fool the people. You have to have a record to show you actually mean what you say. Bernie is the only candidate in the race who has that record, and people notice it and are saying all over the country.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
18. I'm sure she told Kanye, the Kartrashians, and the grocery chain mogul *just* that!
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 11:25 AM
Sep 2015

I keep vacillating between and feeling like I need to pop two Extra-Strength Excedrin.


Autumn

(45,109 posts)
15. I agree, not all those people were there for Hillary
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:47 AM
Sep 2015

her venues are getting smaller and smaller.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
9. Poor Hillary
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 09:10 AM
Sep 2015

She's been running for President since Bill left office.
Why does she have to compete against opponents?
Why doesn't the DNC just hand her the nomination?
It's just so unfair.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
11. What is an inflatable clapper?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:24 AM
Sep 2015

Chris ought to just work for Hillary's campaign. What a fluff piece for her and hit piece for everyone else. Eesh!

brooklynite

(94,608 posts)
12. So if I can show you a crowd of the same size for Bernie, that means he can't win?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:26 AM
Sep 2015

Conversely, I show you a large crowd at a Rally for Howard Dean, that meant he did win?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
14. It depends on why the crowd is there. For Bernie the crowds are to hear someone finally who actually
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:42 AM
Sep 2015

speaks for THEM. And the more people get to know him, the more crowds he is getting because it is so rare to hear a politician actually saying what ordinary people KNOW and have KNOWN for a long time and actually has a RECORD to back it up.

A crowd of 4,000 for THREE or more candidates means one candidate isn't attracting that crowd, three of them are.

spinbaby

(15,090 posts)
19. I watched her on CBS this morning
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 11:38 AM
Sep 2015

I want to like her, I really do, but she always leaves the impression that she's reciting something well rehearsed.

 

SonderWoman

(1,169 posts)
20. Oh please. She's purposely holding small town hall's and you're trying to use it against her?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 11:44 AM
Sep 2015

Her own campaign team says she'll be holding rallies in the mid fall as per her schedule.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
21. Lolz... Holding a limited size event is one thing
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 12:56 PM
Sep 2015

NOT being able to fill said small event is sad.

The former first lady, Secretary of State,
and presidential candidate can't fill the
venue to capacity in "Clinton Country? ?


Face it, the feneral public is not motivated or inspired by her.
As such, we will lose the GE if she is the candidate.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
32. Oh I get it... the empty chairs are a color of the spectrum your eyes can't discern.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 08:01 PM
Sep 2015

Did they purposely set out empty chairs after she started talking?

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
23. As a 56 year old political junky one thing I've learned
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:05 PM
Sep 2015

Is not to get over confident on.Is crowd sizes compared to other candidates before people actually get out and vote.She's already said she's not doing big crowds.Wether it's a winnng strategy or not we won't know until Iowa and NH but she preferres small town meetings get togethers talking directly to voters.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
24. Small venues are fine
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:13 PM
Sep 2015

But there is no excuse
for not filling them to capacity.

It's not like she booked a 5000
seat hall and only got 3500 people...
she couldn't even fill the chairs set out.


People are NOT excited to see or hear her speak.
It is what it is

How many people attended her campaign kick off...
in freaking NYC... 8 million people live in NYC
yet less than 6000 attended

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
27. Why is that a reason she can't win?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 01:51 PM
Sep 2015

It's a small town hall meeting in a school gymnasium. I guess I'm not getting your point, somehow. I'm sure there are photos of other candidates at small meetings like that. They don't mean anything more than this one does.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
28. former first lady, presidential candidate...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:17 PM
Sep 2015

can't fill a high school gymnasium.

Hillary just doesn't inspire or motivate.
If she is the nominee we lose the GE.

Democrats will be uninspired to vote FOR her
Repubs will be frenzied to vote AGAINST her.
it is that simple

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
29. Which gymnasium was that? What day?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:21 PM
Sep 2015

In what place? From just a photograph, nothing is really clear.

Some might ask why Hillary had a larger crowd at the NH Democratic convention, with many people leaving by the time Bernie spoke. I don't have that question, though. It's a meaningless question, just like this photo is meaningless on its own.

You've stated your opinion. My opinion is that no conclusion can be drawn from that photo at all.

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