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babylonsister

(171,075 posts)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:49 PM Jul 2012

"We are trying to prevent a war and Romney is urging Israel to start one."

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/7/29/113957/115

Iran Rhetoric Makes Romney Look Weak

by BooMan
Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 11:39:57 AM EST


Personally, I would respect a presidential candidate more if they said that any decision to attack Iran's nuclear facilities would be made by them in consultation with their national security team, rather than just giving a free pass to Israel to do as they please.

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I don't like Mitt Romney's rhetoric and I don't like his approach. There has to be some conditionality to any support of an Israeli attack on Iran, but Romney doesn't provide any.

Romney has stated repeatedly that he doesn't want to be critical of our foreign policy while he is traveling abroad. I don't really have a pet peeve about that. I would not jump down his throat for being critical of some policies. But his rhetoric goes beyond criticism to actually undermining our foreign policy towards Iran. We are trying to prevent a war and Romney is urging Israel to start one.

I think that is dangerous and irresponsible and it violates his pledge to not criticize our foreign policy while he is abroad.

I also think it makes him look weak, as though he's willing to play the role of Tony Blair to Netanyahu's George W. Bush. Is Romney a poodle?
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"We are trying to prevent a war and Romney is urging Israel to start one." (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2012 OP
PNAC 2.0 is drooling over what's going on in Syria & eyeballing Egypt. Iran would be a good excuse patrice Jul 2012 #1
They can drool all they want, we don't have the resources and they would have to have a draft, but still_one Jul 2012 #9
Yes! Whether it succeeds or not they will ***TAKE*** whatever they can get, our financial sector patrice Jul 2012 #11
The Neocons didn't use the Draft, they abused the National Guard and Reserves, instead. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #12
And they used Romney's policy adviser who was part of Blackwater. They'll privatize it totally. freshwest Jul 2012 #13
K&R patrice Jul 2012 #2
Romney is Netanyahu's poodle Nancy Waterman Jul 2012 #3
He's just frightened. PDJane Jul 2012 #4
A Romney Presidency would guarantee another war. liberal N proud Jul 2012 #5
So, all of a sudden Romney wants to act like Mr. Tough Guy... spindetective Jul 2012 #6
If America votes this man in, enjoy the draft and a society under the boot. That's the plan. freshwest Jul 2012 #7
If this country votes republican we will go into a great depression /nt still_one Jul 2012 #10
If this country votes for romney they are as stupid as they appear. If they think Iran is just still_one Jul 2012 #8
Iraq Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #15
The Romney campaign would love the Israelis to start something. DCBob Jul 2012 #14
Yup Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #16
good point.. its potentially a lose-lose situation and the Rmoney campaign knows it. DCBob Jul 2012 #17
It scares me and sickens me to think Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #18

patrice

(47,992 posts)
1. PNAC 2.0 is drooling over what's going on in Syria & eyeballing Egypt. Iran would be a good excuse
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:53 PM
Jul 2012

to chow down.

Drones notwithstanding, all authentic peace supporters SHOULD be supporting President Obama's re-election.

still_one

(92,263 posts)
9. They can drool all they want, we don't have the resources and they would have to have a draft, but
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:32 PM
Jul 2012

the biggest factor is it would destroy this country because the idiots would even increase military spending more, and that would destroy us, just like it did the Soviet Union

patrice

(47,992 posts)
11. Yes! Whether it succeeds or not they will ***TAKE*** whatever they can get, our financial sector
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:40 PM
Jul 2012

pretty much proves that.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
12. The Neocons didn't use the Draft, they abused the National Guard and Reserves, instead.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:00 PM
Jul 2012

It's what they do to keep people from objecting to unpopular wars.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
13. And they used Romney's policy adviser who was part of Blackwater. They'll privatize it totally.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:06 PM
Jul 2012
It will not have an accountability foreign or domestic, they'll just be working for their boss, wbo will tell them who the enemy is for good pay. Appropriate for a new dark age, and they have millions of Americans willing to kill their fellows for pay. I'm not trying to panic anyone, but this is not a joke anymore.


PDJane

(10,103 posts)
4. He's just frightened.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:00 PM
Jul 2012

The big, bad world can't be controlled or anticipated. Even his polls won't tell him how to jump on this one.

As long as it's outside Romney's little world, he is scared.

spindetective

(27 posts)
6. So, all of a sudden Romney wants to act like Mr. Tough Guy...
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:06 PM
Jul 2012

where was all of his bravado when he was too scared to tell Tea Partied fanatics to shut up when they booed an active duty military gentlemen at one the Republican primary debates?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. If America votes this man in, enjoy the draft and a society under the boot. That's the plan.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:16 PM
Jul 2012

Wars transform societies, stifle dissent, kill the young and old, devastate the environment of the world and the human spirit and still we support them.

BTW, that's a generic 'we,' there. Will Americans seeking the quick buck continue to support this, out of pride, fear or greed?

The world is waiting to see what America will do. What we do in this election will determine not only our fate, but the lives of millions of other people. And I'd say if Romney gets in, there will no longer be anything recognizable left here. We're just pawns on his chessboard. His class is eager and ready.

still_one

(92,263 posts)
8. If this country votes for romney they are as stupid as they appear. If they think Iran is just
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:30 PM
Jul 2012

another Iraq they have no idea what they would be getting into

and this would not be a short in and out war either.



Proud Liberal Dem

(24,416 posts)
15. Iraq
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:22 PM
Jul 2012

-for all of the ease of invading it and overthrowing Saddam's regime- still wound up being an 8+ year "project". I can't even possibly imagine how a war with Iran would play out. At best, a strike would set them back a bit- and make them mad as hornets at us and leading to counterstrikes and retaliation against us in various ways. Stopping their nuclear ambitions entirely would likely involve overthrowing their regime completely and helping install a US-friendly government in Tehran would require a herculean effort to achieve- and one which I don't honestly think anybody here in the US has the stomach for. Invading Iraq wasn't a "cakewalk" and Iran sure as heck wouldn't be.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
14. The Romney campaign would love the Israelis to start something.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:12 PM
Jul 2012

thata would put President Obama is a tough situation which the Republicans will criticise no matter what he does.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,416 posts)
16. Yup
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:22 PM
Jul 2012

Anything he did in response would anger the left as well. In short, he'd be stuck in a no-win situation, politically.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
17. good point.. its potentially a lose-lose situation and the Rmoney campaign knows it.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:07 PM
Jul 2012

and they are evil and desperate enough to risk war for poltical gain. Sick bastards.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,416 posts)
18. It scares me and sickens me to think
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:27 PM
Jul 2012

that people like Romney, et. al are considered VIABLE candidates for public office and that they have people like Rove that dedicate their lives/careers towards furthering the careers of people like them.

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