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Nancy Waterman

(6,407 posts)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:26 PM Jul 2012

If Israel strikes Iran's nuclear facilites

then it seems likely that Iran will strike back at Israel, and they will be at war. At that point, doesn't the US have to get involved as an ally of Israel? All of this belligerent talk needs to be followed to its logical conclusion. If Romney becomes (gag) president, would we end up at war with Iran and Syria (its ally)?

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If Israel strikes Iran's nuclear facilites (Original Post) Nancy Waterman Jul 2012 OP
That's how it is most likely to play out Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #1
Very likely. War = money- remember this is the party that likes being in a war KaryninMiami Jul 2012 #2
Good point! Nancy Waterman Jul 2012 #3
We Have Yet To Fight Alongside Israel, Ma'am The Magistrate Jul 2012 #4
If we became directly involved would Russia and or China remain passive? R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2012 #5
Depends On Your Definition, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2012 #6

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,416 posts)
1. That's how it is most likely to play out
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:31 PM
Jul 2012

which is why it's a bad idea for it to allow it to happen (or to instigate it) in the first place.

KaryninMiami

(3,073 posts)
2. Very likely. War = money- remember this is the party that likes being in a war
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:31 PM
Jul 2012

It's big business- and lots as stake. So what if we loose a few thousand (or in this case, a few million) lives- freedom is on the march, remember W? I am terrified of the prospect of having him in charge of our military. Absolutely terrified.

Nancy Waterman

(6,407 posts)
3. Good point!
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 04:11 PM
Jul 2012

Follow the money. The military/industrial complex will do just fine. The rest of us: not so much.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
4. We Have Yet To Fight Alongside Israel, Ma'am
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 04:35 PM
Jul 2012

We supply materiel and munitions, but not troops.

If we became involved directly, it would be because Iran chose, in the form of its response to an Israeli attack, to involve the United States, by attacking U.S. forces in the region, or by a covert strike in some form against us.

It is not likely ( or, more precisely, not very sensible ) for Israel to attack Iran before the Assad regime is overthrown. Syria is Iran's tool against Israel, being in control of the irregulars of Hezbollah whom Iran counts on as its forward force against Israel, and the subtext of events in Syria at present is removing Iran's ability to strike directly against Israel in the event it nuclear facilities are attacked. This could be taken as a measure to prepare the ground for such an attack, or as a measure to force Iran to take diplomacy seriously, as it would be without a credible threat of force against its preferred target.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
5. If we became directly involved would Russia and or China remain passive?
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:05 PM
Jul 2012

I'm not sure they would appreciate a U.S. attack on Iran if Israel were to strike first.

The great game has never truly ended.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
6. Depends On Your Definition, Sir
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:27 PM
Jul 2012

Neither would take direct military action. Russia might provide arms, but would want cash on the barrel-head; China has no ready means of access to supply Iran in a situation in which the U.S. was militarily active. Both have economic levers they might employ to good effect, to isolate the United States, and do us some monetary harm, though for China that would need to be nicely judged, as what they can do to harm us does them harm as well, and where the balance came to rest would need close judgement. Diplomatically they would have a field day, we would be vetoing Security Council resolutions condemning us for aggressive war ( which we would be guilty of ), and heavens knows what else.

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