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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:33 AM Oct 2015

Hillary Clinton Mocks Trump, And Herself, On 'SNL'

Hillary Clinton hosted "Saturday Night Live" on Saturday, and used it as an opportunity to mock Donald Trump and to make fun of her own reticence on issues like marriage equality and the Keystone XL pipeline.






In a standard "SNL" setup, the show's fake Clinton, played by Kate McKinnon, came face to face with the real thing. The former secretary of state and front-runner in the Democratic presidential race played a wise and straight-talking bartender named Val, who counsels McKinnon's Clinton over vodka, sings a few bars of "Lean on Me," and then disappears into thin air.

In the sketch, Clinton briefly impersonates Donald Trump -- "Uh, you're all losers" -- and joins in with the skewering of her own reputation for overt ambition and robotic campaigning.

"You give off such a young, cool vibe," Val says to McKinnon's Clinton. "You must work in Brooklyn."

It was one of several references to Clinton's efforts to appeal to younger voters and to counter her public image as removed and emotionally uninspiring. "You are really easy to talk to," McKinnon's Clinton tells Val. "That's the first time I've ever heard that," Clinton replies.

The most pointed moments, however, came when Clinton conceded that she should have publicly supported marriage equality earlier than she did. "You supported it pretty soon," says Val. "Still, could have been sooner," McKinnon's Clinton responds. "Fair point," nods the real Clinton.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-snl-mocks-trump_561115cee4b0af3706e1199e?xlwbqpvi
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Hillary Clinton Mocks Trump, And Herself, On 'SNL' (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 OP
wow, Clinton did a great job in that sketch. Awesome Donald Trump impersonation. Vattel Oct 2015 #1
It was just ok. She played it safe as always. Playing not to lose. Will that be her presidency, too? reformist2 Oct 2015 #44
Biggest joke of the night - 2013 was "pretty soon" for marriage equality. last1standing Oct 2015 #2
Did you recommend my thread? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #3
Is a rec more important than sick LGBT people dying alone? last1standing Oct 2015 #4
Did you recommend my thread? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #5
I just did. Thanks riversedge Oct 2015 #7
Thank you... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #11
So you're going to ignore all the sick LGBT people who had to die alone for "traditional marriage?" last1standing Oct 2015 #10
No need for you to recommend it now. My new friend, Riversedge , did. But thank you anyway. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #13
Too bad the LGBT people who died alone couldn't recommend it since Hillary didn't support them. last1standing Oct 2015 #14
I don't see the efficacy of this conversation as my thread has received the requisite amount of ... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #16
I thought thousands of sick LGBT people dying alone was worth discussion? last1standing Oct 2015 #18
If you want to discuss Hillary's positions on the issues that is your right. If I want to discuss... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #20
So let's discuss Hillary's position, pre-2013, to advocate against marriage equality. last1standing Oct 2015 #21
"So let's discuss Hillary's position, pre-2013, to advocate against marriage equality." DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #22
So you won't discuss Hillary's recent advocacy against marriage equality. Got it. last1standing Oct 2015 #24
I will not discuss it in this thread. What part of that don't you understand DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #28
It's like herding cats ... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #34
The poster can start a thread and discuss what he or she wants, sounds reasonable, no? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #36
Hillary made a joke of not supporting marriage equality in her "bravura performance." last1standing Oct 2015 #37
What part of... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #38
Sorry, I thought this was a discussion forum for the primaries. last1standing Oct 2015 #39
That's because it was already posted in the Hillary Group. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #40
I hadn't, but then I stay away from cesspools. last1standing Oct 2015 #43
How cute. Cesspools. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #46
I never asked you to shed your support. I want to know why not supporting marriage equality is funny last1standing Oct 2015 #47
You can discuss whatever you want and I will discuss what I want. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #42
I'm merely asking about Hillary's joke about not supporting marriage equality from the skit. last1standing Oct 2015 #45
If you start a thread about her SNL performance I will decide whether or not to respond. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #50
LOL! I'll give you that. last1standing Oct 2015 #51
I genuinely respect and admire your passion DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #52
Thanks. So is Hillary. last1standing Oct 2015 #54
I adore you! ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #41
I have an idea, why don't you start your own thread instead of trying to read something more into th still_one Oct 2015 #53
Despite your suggestion, I have every intention of voting for Hillary. last1standing Oct 2015 #56
my point wasn't really who you are voting for, but rather, you are reading much more than what the still_one Oct 2015 #58
I didn't think she did well in the skit but I think Bernie would have done far worse. last1standing Oct 2015 #59
Ok still_one Oct 2015 #60
LOL! I didn't think you'd like my response, but it was honest. last1standing Oct 2015 #61
Your make some good points, though I think it would be better served in its own thread, but that's still_one Oct 2015 #65
Exactly. And I don't get the need to punish people who have treestar Oct 2015 #67
I agree whole heartedly still_one Oct 2015 #68
the joke wasn't about marriage treestar Oct 2015 #66
A vote for Hillary is a vote for four more years of Kate McKinnon's impression. #citizens riversedge Oct 2015 #6
I am not an SNL aficionado but I enjoyed the entire show. i used to be... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #9
Hillary was great on SNL last night Gothmog Oct 2015 #8
hillary clinton es una mujer fuerte/nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #15
I was just about to post this. Thank you! K & R Persondem Oct 2015 #12
She was excellent! mcar Oct 2015 #17
Well done! Kat McKinnon is a much flamingdem Oct 2015 #19
Not a Clinton supporter Bettie Oct 2015 #23
Only took 8 minutes.... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #25
The good news is Hillary will have a career on stage awaiting her after her primary loss to Bernie. jalan48 Oct 2015 #26
"A dream is a wish the heart makes." DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #31
LOL-touche jalan48 Oct 2015 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #31
as is typical, some on DU fail to have a sense of humor unless it is putting the opponent down still_one Oct 2015 #55
I absolutely agree! jalan48 Oct 2015 #57
I wish I could find a video of her introducing Miley Cyrus. StevieM Oct 2015 #27
If Hillary were more like "Val" DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #29
That was great. cyberswede Oct 2015 #30
She did do a great job. book_worm Oct 2015 #35
Just O.K., but the best line was delivered by the 'Bill' character. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #48
That was the one thing that made me laugh. reformist2 Oct 2015 #64
Hillary didn't host SNL... TeeYiYi Oct 2015 #49
Well deserved mockery for both. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #62
Well Mr. Munster liked it. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #69
She did both. I doubt any of the other candidates could pull that off. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #63

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
44. It was just ok. She played it safe as always. Playing not to lose. Will that be her presidency, too?
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:48 PM
Oct 2015

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
2. Biggest joke of the night - 2013 was "pretty soon" for marriage equality.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:50 AM
Oct 2015

Not even close, Hillary. Not for anyone who had to die alone because hospital staff would only let "family" in to see them. Not for anyone who lost their entire life's savings because they had no legal protection for inheritance.

Not nearly close enough, Hillary.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
4. Is a rec more important than sick LGBT people dying alone?
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:11 AM
Oct 2015

I'm not sure I get your point, but I find the complete lack of empathy disturbing.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
10. So you're going to ignore all the sick LGBT people who had to die alone for "traditional marriage?"
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:17 AM
Oct 2015

You know, the "traditional marriage" Hillary supported while people died alone and their spouses lost everything.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
14. Too bad the LGBT people who died alone couldn't recommend it since Hillary didn't support them.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:22 AM
Oct 2015

But she "evolved" in time for a new election, long after public opinion had changed. That's what really counts.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
16. I don't see the efficacy of this conversation as my thread has received the requisite amount of ...
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:25 AM
Oct 2015

I don't see the efficacy of continuing this conversation as my thread has received the requisite amount of recommends to make the Greatest Page but thank you for your consideration.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
18. I thought thousands of sick LGBT people dying alone was worth discussion?
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:28 AM
Oct 2015

You don't?

Hillary consistently supported denying LGBT people the right to marry, which led to thousands of sick LGBTers dying alone and thousands losing everything?

But that's not worth discussion to you? Why?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
20. If you want to discuss Hillary's positions on the issues that is your right. If I want to discuss...
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:35 AM
Oct 2015

If you want to discuss Hillary's positions on the issues that is your right. If I want to discuss Hillary Clinton's boffo appearance on Saturday Night Live that is my right.

But as I have said, ad infinitum and ad nauseum, I appreciate the consideration you have given to recommending my thread.


last1standing

(11,709 posts)
21. So let's discuss Hillary's position, pre-2013, to advocate against marriage equality.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:39 AM
Oct 2015

Let's discuss all the sick LGBTers who died alone because "advocates" like Hillary wouldn't support them because it might affect her in the polls.

I think that's far more important and worthy of discussion than a comedy skit. Don't you? Especially since Hillary is the one who brought it up by suggesting she evolved "pretty soon."

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
22. "So let's discuss Hillary's position, pre-2013, to advocate against marriage equality."
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:47 AM
Oct 2015
"So let's discuss Hillary's position, pre-2013, to advocate against marriage equality."


Then start a thread to discuss it. As I have been saying, ad nauseum and ad infinitum, this thread is to celebrate Hillary Clinton's boffo performance on Saturday Night Live. What part of that don't you understand?

BTW, the only people to compel me to talk about what they wanted to talk about instead of what I wanted to talk about were my mom and dad and they are both dead.

But I would be remiss if I didn't close this post by thanking you for the consideration you gave to recommending my thread.


last1standing

(11,709 posts)
24. So you won't discuss Hillary's recent advocacy against marriage equality. Got it.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:52 AM
Oct 2015

I know that Hillary's positions and record don't help her, but I believe it's time to elect someone with positions and record we can be proud of.

Still, I know looking good on TV is very important to Hillary "We came, we saw, he died" Clinton. It's all she's got.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
28. I will not discuss it in this thread. What part of that don't you understand
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:01 PM
Oct 2015
So you won't discuss Hillary's recent advocacy against marriage equality. Got it.


I will not discuss it in this thread, a thread I started to celebrate Hillary Clinton's bravura performance on Saturday Night Live. What part of that don't you understand?


I am absolutely flummoxed by the hubris it must take to come on an internet forum and deign to force anonymous strangers to discuss things he or she has chosen not to discuss... I don't know if I can be more plain spoken. I would literally rather be shot in the head than allow you to force me to talk about what you want to talk about and not what I want to talk about.

But, again, I thank you for considering recommending my thread.


last1standing

(11,709 posts)
37. Hillary made a joke of not supporting marriage equality in her "bravura performance."
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:25 PM
Oct 2015

But you won't discuss it, even though it's part of the very skit you're praising. Got it.

Image is everything, for some.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
38. What part of...
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:31 PM
Oct 2015

What part of this is a thread to celebrate Hillary Clinton's Emmy worthy performance on Saturday Night Live don't you understand?


However , I do thank you for considering recommending it.


last1standing

(11,709 posts)
39. Sorry, I thought this was a discussion forum for the primaries.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:33 PM
Oct 2015

I didn't see that you had posted this in the Hillary Group.


err.......

So what do you think about Hillary making a joke about not supporting marriage equality? I think it kind of sucks and shows us all how little she really cares about us in the LGBT community.

ronnykmarshall

(35,356 posts)
40. That's because it was already posted in the Hillary Group.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:44 PM
Oct 2015

Since you're sniffing around, I'm sure you noticed it

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
43. I hadn't, but then I stay away from cesspools.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:46 PM
Oct 2015

But I promise not to post my thoughts on Hillary making jokes out of not supporting marriage equality there.

So what do you think about Hillary making jokes about not supporting marriage equality? Did you think that was funny?

ronnykmarshall

(35,356 posts)
46. How cute. Cesspools.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:51 PM
Oct 2015

Says a lot.

Why with all your charm, I'm going to shed my support of Hillary RIGHT NOW!

Thank you!

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
47. I never asked you to shed your support. I want to know why not supporting marriage equality is funny
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:56 PM
Oct 2015

I don't find it funny. Do you?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
42. You can discuss whatever you want and I will discuss what I want.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:46 PM
Oct 2015

If you believe you can commandeer me to discuss what you want to discuss instead of what I want to discuss there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.

Somewhere you have come to the conclusion that you are going to get me to discuss what you want to discuss. I would literally rather die.

Oh, thanks for considering recommending my thread,


last1standing

(11,709 posts)
45. I'm merely asking about Hillary's joke about not supporting marriage equality from the skit.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:49 PM
Oct 2015

I don't know why you won't tell me whether you thought her joke about not supporting marriage equality was funny? I know some people love a good laugh at the expense of the LGBT community. I just didn't know Hillary was one of them.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
50. If you start a thread about her SNL performance I will decide whether or not to respond.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:27 PM
Oct 2015

I would think by this point you would realize two things; DemocratSinceBirth is a little crazy and a little stubborn. I would add both traits have proven to be useful to me.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
54. Thanks. So is Hillary.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:36 PM
Oct 2015

We both have some compatriots who are smearing the records of our candidates, and I could live without them. On the other hand, we need to know how to deal with extremely hard questioning and return it if we're going to win in November 2016.

still_one

(92,250 posts)
53. I have an idea, why don't you start your own thread instead of trying to read something more into th
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:35 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Sun Oct 4, 2015, 02:47 PM - Edit history (1)

OP

I get it. You don't like Hillary, then don't vote for her

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
56. Despite your suggestion, I have every intention of voting for Hillary.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:39 PM
Oct 2015

If/when she wins the primary.

But if you can't answer a fool like myself, how will you handle someone with a brain who hits these issues int he general election?

Personally, I think we should nominate the candidate with the best record of supporting progressive causes, Bernie Sanders. If he doesn't win, I'd like to think we were able to counter some easy questioning.

still_one

(92,250 posts)
58. my point wasn't really who you are voting for, but rather, you are reading much more than what the
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 02:47 PM
Oct 2015

intended. I acknowledge you make a valid point, but in my view the intent of this thread was simply that Hillary has a sense of humor , and not only admitted her short comings in the skit, but also should have decided sooner

Her impersonation of Trump was quite funny also

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
59. I didn't think she did well in the skit but I think Bernie would have done far worse.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 03:04 PM
Oct 2015

I also think it's a very big mistake to make a joke about her very, very late support or marriage equality. We all know that she probably supported it personally back in the 90s but we also all know that she was never an advocate for it that we could count on.

I strongly suspect Hillary will end up as our nominee despite my every intention to see that it doesn't happen. If she wants to win, she needs to show that she takes responsibility for her extremely bad decisions and start taking some strong stands on the policies that matter to the American people. She hasn't done that yet, which makes the claim that she's a weather vane so easy and damaging.

You can argue with my assessment all you like, but the truth is that few people doubt she supported LGBT rights and few believe she will do anything to reign in Wall Street excesses or close down Citizens United. But she doesn't give very clear or convincing arguments on the issues she claims to support. I believe people would have more respect for her if she stated that she was always for marriage equality but couldn't come out against it while working for an administration that officially didn't. She'd do much better if she would tell us exactly how she plans to curb Wall Street and stop dark money slush funds.

Again, you don't have to agree, but there is a very good reason candidates who are considered outsiders are doing so well in both parties. People are sick of double talk and broken promises in an era of desperation.

In other words, if Team Hillary wants to defang her attackers, she has to be a far better candidate - one who people truly believe will stand up for them. I know you believe that already, but many, many people don't, including me.

There are bad decisions in everyone's past. How you deal with your bad decisions is the way people judge your character.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
61. LOL! I didn't think you'd like my response, but it was honest.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 03:49 PM
Oct 2015

I understand you disagree with me, but those are my thoughts, right or wrong. I'll hold my nose and pull the lever for Hillary in the GE, but many people who aren't as tuned into politics won't unless she gives them something to vote for more than "scary republican! Boo!"

still_one

(92,250 posts)
65. Your make some good points, though I think it would be better served in its own thread, but that's
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 05:20 PM
Oct 2015

cool.

I also think 95% of those on DU will vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is, because in the end there is no ambiguity where the republican candidates stand on LGBT issues, along with the other social issues, and at least there is a chance for progress with the Democratic candidates, though to be honest, if we win the general election, whoever it is will still have a difficult time because the house has been gerrymandered, and the republicans will control that majority for a while. The Senate, we have a real possibility to regain control, but if we lose both houses, and the Presidency, I believe it will be a disaster.

Also, I absolutely no problem for voting for any of the Democratic candidates running for President in the general election.

In my view one of the most important issues is the Supreme Court, and the next President will most likely need to appoint someone to replace a Democratic appointee rather than a republican on, which will impact everything if the Democrats lose the white house.

Take care

treestar

(82,383 posts)
67. Exactly. And I don't get the need to punish people who have
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 06:58 PM
Oct 2015

come round on an issue for not doing so soon enough. If they are now on our side, we've made progress.

riversedge

(70,246 posts)
6. A vote for Hillary is a vote for four more years of Kate McKinnon's impression. #citizens
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:14 AM
Oct 2015

chuckle

@HillaryClinton 11h11 hours ago

A vote for Hillary is a vote for four more years of Kate McKinnon's impression. #citizens

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. I am not an SNL aficionado but I enjoyed the entire show. i used to be...
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:17 AM
Oct 2015

I watch it on special occasions like when LeBron James or a politician is on.

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
12. I was just about to post this. Thank you! K & R
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:18 AM
Oct 2015

HRC did a pretty good job showing she can deliver a joke and take a joke.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
19. Well done! Kat McKinnon is a much
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:32 AM
Oct 2015

better Hillary than the Obama character they had and this shows that Hillary has a good sense of timing, very important for those press dinners.

Response to jalan48 (Reply #26)

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
29. If Hillary were more like "Val"
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:02 PM
Oct 2015

her election would be smoother,

BUT,

if this skit were like the real Dems, you would have the annoying manager named "Debbie" trying to make sure Val stopped talking so much.

That is sad, because "Val" might get a lot more people to appreciate her sense of humor rather than the clueless "manager's" calculations and manipulations, the sort that manager weasels think up because they think they are brilliant, but really, just suck.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
48. Just O.K., but the best line was delivered by the 'Bill' character.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:04 PM
Oct 2015

And his line was something many of us can agree on:

"Oh my God - they're multiplyin'!"

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
49. Hillary didn't host SNL...
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:09 PM
Oct 2015

...Miley Cyrus did.

re: Hillary Clinton hosted "Saturday Night Live" on Saturday,...

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