Hillary Clinton has a 79% favorability rating among our fellow Democrats

[DemocratSinceBirth]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-smokes-sanders-democrats-independents-table-turns/story?id=34425648

[leftofcool]

1. And that is the only favorable we need!

I don't give a rat's ass what the repukes think of her.

[riversedge]

4. Hillary is Likable is my new motto

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[jeff47]

9. Democrats are 30% of the electorate. How do you plan to win the GE with 30%? (nt)

[6chars]

16. high favorables help with gotv

[jeff47]

17. GOTV of 30%. You still need another 20.1% to win the GE.

(Subject assumes only two candidates for simplicity)

[6chars]

38. only if other side gets out 100% of its vote

elections are more about motivating base these days than about winning swing voters.

[jeff47]

39. 30% assumes we get 100% of our vote. So it's worse than that simplified subject for both sides. (nt

[MoonRiver]

2. More evidence about why she's the front runner!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. There's actually positive movement among almost every demographics.

eom

[riversedge]

5. slow but sure. Persistance pays off.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. ...

[riversedge]

84. yes, see this if you have not already...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251671798

[NCTraveler]

6. Very impressive and stable.

It will probably go up a notch as the email crew begin to get their asses handed to them. I predicted a while ago that her favorability will go higher as the email story continues. It happens every time after a right wing witch hunt on the Clintons. It will happen to even a greater extent now that isolationists and "socialists" helped to carry the water for Gowdy in pursuit of their "revolution."

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. Did somebody go there?

Thanks for pointing out that 61% of the white voters do not trust Clinton.

Yes. Thank God it wasn't a Clinton supporter

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. This is apocryyphal

Thanks for pointing out that 61% of the white voters

Where did I point that out? It isn't the data I cited.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. Those are favorable/unfavorable and the 61% figure you cited is nowhere to be found, am I right?

You were so much more entertaining when you were regaling us with your disquisitions on race.

[Historic NY]

44. I keep saying it the arithmetic.......

They see numbers that don't exist......

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. Name Removed can read what you wrote but he can't respond.

He is looking for a new pair of socks.

[arcane1]

79. At the risk of appearing to defend Name Removed, what does the 62 represent under "whites"?

It appears to be a 62% unapproval. I'm happy to be corrected if I'm mistaken.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

80. Name Removed was alluding to a 61% figure which doesn't exist.

eom

[arcane1]

81. Correct. It's apparently 62% n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

82. Name removed said it was her untrustworthy numbers that weren't measured...

Don't fret ...Name Removed probably has more socks than the equipment manager for the New York Giants.


He will be back...

[OilemFirchen]

10. Look at Bernie go with the top 4%!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. What do you think about the toxic observation one of our interlocutors made in Post 8?

Thank you in advance.

[OilemFirchen]

14. I think it tells us everything we need to know about that poster. (n/t)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Would you agree it is profoundly disappointing that one of the denizens of this august board...

Would you agree it is profoundly disappointing that one of the denizens of this august board uses those lens in which to see the world?

[OilemFirchen]

22. I would.

Disappointed... but not surprised in the least.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. Perhaps we can take solace in the fact that this in the internet and folks aren't always who they...

Perhaps we can take solace in the fact that this in the internet and folks aren't always who they hold themselves out to be.

[BlueCaliDem]

18. No "thinking" about it. It's been underscored and highlighted.

Operation Chaos 2016 is in full swing!

[OilemFirchen]

33. If there isn't already a thread about this, there should be.

After all, National Review is a must-post source for Sanders supporters. And, sans a few snarky sentences, it could have been lifted from HaHa Goodman.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. Our interlocutor changed his handle to Name Removed.

I suspect Name Removed has already returned...

Maybe I am not twelve years old any more but i don't see the point of keep returning , again and again, to a venue from where i have been removed.

[SidDithers]

58. Name Removed needs to get a fucking life...

Sid

[DemocratSinceBirth]

60. It is annoying...

It takes a twelve year old's mentality to keep getting banned and keep returning. I would use the r word to describe the behavior but it's a pejorative.

[OilemFirchen]

73. Shocked!

Not.

[Historic NY]

45. +1

[Number23]

87. Holy moley. But what's sad is that this will do absolutely NOTHING to put a dent in some

people's beliefs here that Republicans think Sanders is a stronger candidate than Hillary.

[leftupnorth]

19. The majority of Lions fans view QB Matt Stafford more favorably than

Green Bay QB Aaron Rodgers.

Even though Aaron Rodgers is a much better Super Bowl QB than Stafford.

[Dawgs]

35. Wrong. Stafford would be every bit as good as Rodgers if he played for Green Bay.

Go Lions! Go Dawgs!

[leftupnorth]

42. Lol! Touché

Sadly, I think the lions are on track for another perfect 0-16 season.

After 58 years of failure to advance to the big show, it may be time to reconsider whether the Ford family should still own the team.

I guess I'm just fed up with mediocrity and failure, in politics and sports!

[ibegurpard]

21. 79% of 30%!

Woo hoo! She's got this in the bag!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. Thank you for kicking my thread.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. That is demonstrably false

She's down from August?

-Bernie Fan57

That is demonstrably false.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

50. There are twenty one sub groups

There are twenty or so sub groups:





She is up in 19 ? 20? of them.

If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.

-Albert Einstein

[artislife]

24. Record high numbers

http://www.gallup.com/poll/166763/record-high-americans-identify-independents.aspx

Record-High 42% of Americans Identify as Independents

They may have given up on parties but they may not have given up on voting.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

74. Like I have said before.

Now is the time for a real progressive populist movement, but the message needs to be clear and not overly complex and it needs to be repeated over and over to drive it home into the minds of the people.

Then Bernie will win.

[Maraya1969]

25. I think that, besides his large audiences, most people do not

know about him. They need to do a lot more TV ads. I've asked about 5 people if they new of Bernie Sanders and they all said, "no"

[Vattel]

26. Democrats will for the most part vote for the democratic candidate regardless

of whether it is Bernie or Hillary. And Bernie has a much better favorable to unfavorable ratio than Clinton does with independents. Moreover, Bernie's favorable to unfavorable ratio among all registered voters is better than Clinton's. So this poll makes it look like Bernie is more electable than Hillary. But that's inconceivable!

[workinclasszero]

29. What no bern?

Go Hillary!

[MattSh]

30. Stupid polling...

Why is Biden even in this thing? To dilute Bernie's numbers?

Biden ain't declared nothing, so he's irrelevant, regardless of what ABC and WaPo would like you to believe.

[William769]

31. Kick & highly recommended!

[JaneyVee]

32. Months (decades) of media bashing and her numbers go up.

K and R.

[Dawgs]

36. Kick. She will never win the general.

Almost zero enthusiasm for her or her candidacy.

[shenmue]

53. In your head

[zappaman]

41. No minority problem for Sanders.

Nope.
None at all.

[Hortensis]

48. It's impossible to win! With no president in 2016, I'm moving to Denmark.

[Gothmog]

49. These are good polling numbers for Hillary Clinton

[Bread and Circus]

51. And look who's doing better with independents and republicans? Bernie.

Your own post punctures your own "electibility" argument.

[DCBob]

56. And who's Independent unfav numbers have increased since July? Bernie.

25 to 35.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

59. Good catch

[DemocratSinceBirth]

57. I merely posted the candidate's respective favorables but thank you for kicking my thread.

[Bread and Circus]

62. Just because you posted it for one reason doesn't mean we can't point out it has stuff that undercut

undercuts one of your core arguments. Which in fact does have.

I don't mind bumping your thread that shoes Bernie Sanders has been fav/unfavs with indys and repubs than Hillary which undercuts one of your core arguments. No. Not at all.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

63. Thank you, again, for kicking my thread

[Bread and Circus]

68. You are welcome and here's another bump.

Am I supposed to regret responding to you now? Are you meep meeping me?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

69. I am not hip enough to know what "meep meeping" means but thank you for kicking my thread.

[SoapBox]

52. Well I didn't get polled...

So I'm officially in the 21% that do not support her...and never will.

Trust.

[retrowire]

65. i never get polled.

what's with that? is it my demographic? lol

[DCBob]

54. Black votes matter!

Fav/Unfav with Black voters:

Hillary: 80-18
Bernie: 37-33

Clearly that is huge problem for Sanders. He cannot win with numbers like that.

[Sheepshank]

55. well this completely explains

why Bernie must try to appeal outside of the party he previously scorned but now tries to attach hinself to. He must try to appeal to Republicans. Excellent move that should make other liberal Dems feel warm and fuzzy about.

[DCBob]

61. I think alot of this stems from Bernie not being a Democrat.

I think it irks many people he is trying to get the nomination without joining the party.

[Sheepshank]

66. well I admit that not only does it irk me that he does just what you said,

it irks me that Bernie badmouthed the Party and and said it would be hypocritical to run as a Dem when he scorned the Dem Party, and Bernie Supporters think that is just fine and dandy. I suppose anything goes when trying to get ones foot into the Whitehouse, including flagrant hypocrisy....which doesn't make Bernie any more special that any other candidate in that respect. I am irked that this special noble mantel is bestowed on Bernie when he has treated the Dem Party so shoddily.

[DCBob]

85. He's like the neighborhood punk throwing rocks at your house...

then expects to be invited for Christmas dinner.

[workinclasszero]

72. Yeah this must be behind the "tea party digs Bernie" posts

Because he lost the base voters of the democratic party so.....

[Persondem]

64. An excellent result for Clinton. hanks for posting. K & R nt

[lunamagica]

67. Great numbers for Hillary!

[lame54]

70. If asked I would have given her a favorable rating...

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but she's not getting my primary vote

[KansDem]

76. Me, too.

I would rate her favorably, but Bernie's getting my vote.

[ColesCountyDem]

78. Same here.

I like Sec. Clinton, and will absolutely agree that she's well-qualified to be President. I will campaign for her and gladly vote for her, should she win the nomination, but Bernie's getting my primary vote.

[Gamecock Lefty]

71. I've Said It Before . . .

Bernie may have held liberal positions longer than others that have evolved over time, but the fact he is running as a Dem still irks me especially since he has abhorred the two-party system for so long.

If I was flat-out honest I’d say I align with Bernie’s positions a little more (without all his anger) than any other candidate, but the fact is I like Hillary better and believe she will make a better leader than BS.

I was even disappointed with her decision regarding TPP. I was actually in favor of that trade agreement!

Make America Even Greater – Elect Hillary!

[stonecutter357]

75. K&R!

[stonecutter357]

77. K&R!

[redstateblues]

83. The other 21% are on DU

[DCBob]

86. Its interesting Bernie unfavs with African Americans are so high.

I never thought he would connect very well with AA voters but I wouldn't have thought he would be seen as being unfavorable. He's really in a hole now and I doubt he will be able to dig himself out.

[Number23]

88. The only thing I can think of that explains that is his campaigning with Cornell West

or perhaps his exchanges with BLM.

Hillary's black support hasn't changed much either way. But Bernie's unfavorables with black voters have gone UP by over 10% since July.

[Sheepshank]

89. I think Cornell was a net negative for Bernie

He was working to improve the BLM kerfuffle, and the fell off the track with Cornell. I thought he was on a better track when he hired a female BLM organizer (I think she was an organizer or spokesperson). I never heard from her again after her welcome to the sanders campaign. There was hope this was supposed to lead towards something positive.

[Number23]

90. We were just talking about the Press Secretary's vanishing from public view a week or so ago

in the AA forum. Some of the members there said the same thing you just did. After all the fanfare over her assuming the role it's incredibly odd that she hasn't been heard from since.

She seemed to be a bright woman, so I wouldn't be surprised if she was one of the many, MANY poc who tried to tell Sanders that campaigning with Cornell West at his side was the last thing he needed to be doing if he wanted to rally black folks to support him.

Sanders' message hasn't changed that much so beyond his interactions with BLM and campaigning with Cornell, I honestly don't know what else could be behind the spike in his unfavorables with black voters.