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Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:35 PM Oct 2015

The only flip flopper on gun control in tonight's debate is HRC.

Before 2008, Hillary was in the Jim Brady camp on gun control. Then in the presidential cycle in 2008, she became "Annie Oakley" according to President Obama. Now she has leaped back to the left. A flip, a flop and now another flip.

In 2000 HRC advocated a national gun registry. In 2008, she renounced that position. Now where is she on this issue?

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Gun_Control.htm

Gun rights groups have long considered Mrs. Clinton their foe. Her 2000 Senate campaign centered on a push to keep guns off the streets, and she was a forceful advocate of creating a national gun registry. But eight years later, as she faced off against then-Sen. Barack Obama in the Democratic primary, she positioned herself as more conservative than him on gun control. She backed off the proposal for a national registry and publicly recounted how her father had taught her how to shoot as a little girl--a story that prompted Obama to ask if she was seeking Annie Oakley comparisons. Gun control groups criticized her change in tune [back to strongly supporting gun control] as hypocritical and politically motivated.


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The only flip flopper on gun control in tonight's debate is HRC. (Original Post) Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 OP
clinton Robbins Oct 2015 #1
Wasn't it Republicans who brought out the whole "flip flop" thing on Kerry? NCTraveler Oct 2015 #2
Both have an "F," I believe. Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #3
Any more than a guess on their NRA rating? NCTraveler Oct 2015 #4
I've seen an F rating published for Bernie. Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #5
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
2. Wasn't it Republicans who brought out the whole "flip flop" thing on Kerry?
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:37 PM
Oct 2015

I even remember jackasses riding around town in my area with them on their cars. Anyway, can you tell me where the NRA rates Clinton and Sanders?

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
3. Both have an "F," I believe.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:53 PM
Oct 2015

Flip flopper is indeed a negative term used by RWers against Kerry. It has recently been used inaccurately by HRC supporters to attack Bernie. Therefore I am using the term against the only Dem candidate who deserves it, namely, Secretary Clinton. Not only for her position on gun control, but also TPP, Keystone, crime and racial justice, private prisons, IWR, gay marriage. There are probably more.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
4. Any more than a guess on their NRA rating?
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:54 PM
Oct 2015

Glad you recognize that about the flip flop thing. I hated watching conservatives wear the shirts around my area. Scum.

I do think you are right about the NRA rating. Hope so. Either way Trayvon says not good enough.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
5. I've seen an F rating published for Bernie.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:02 PM
Oct 2015

I have not seen a rating for HRC, but I'm very sure it is an F. Forgive me, I have to go out for a while and need to punt on researching it, but I don't think there is any dispute about their lifetime ratings.

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