2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton CRUSHES it.
The first debate was the Hillary and Bernie Show, and Clinton received top billing.
Not only was Hillary Clinton on the receiving end of the nights biggest gift her rival, Bernie Sanders, declaring it time for people to shut up about her email scandal she also delivered some of the evenings most stinging retorts.
The Democratic front-runner showed renewed energy and comfort on a presidential debate stage where she, but none of the others, had been before. But one of the most dramatic and memorable moments came from Sanders. And it was a plea for the political conversation to move on from the email controversy that has consumed much of the conversation about the overall Democratic race.
The American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails, Sanders declared, after Clinton defended her use of a private email server while she was secretary of state and cast the Republican-led congressional investigation as overly partisan.
Clinton beamed wide and, when Sanders was done, reached over to shake his hand. Thank you Bernie, she smiled. Inside the room at the Wynn resort and casino, there was a standing ovation among the Democratic attendees of the debate.
It wasnt just Clinton and the crowd that was celebrating. Behind the scenes, her team was too. Bernie Sanders just did for Hillary what her own staff could not, one source close to the Clinton campaign said in an email
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/2016-presidential-debates-democrats-las-vegas-214724#ixzz3oVeSihG9
John Poet
(2,510 posts)Bernie Sanders Won the Debate, and Perhaps the Election, When He Defended Hillary Clinton
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-hanley/bernie-sanders-won-the-de_1_b_8290498.html
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)I see what you did there
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)And raised the level of national debate and discourse 900%. Let's contrast this to the Republican debate........oh never mind
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)Bernie CRUSHES it!
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)Whats your point?
reformist2
(9,841 posts)oasis
(49,409 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)I'm a Bernie Sanders supporter, but credit where credit is due.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)But I already have a candidate to that's all I give her credit for. Good composure.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)I don't know where these people get this stuff.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)So they're all clearly wrong.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)DISCLAIMER: This web poll is not scientific. It reflects opinions of site visitors who voluntarily participate. Results may not represent the opinions of the public as a whole.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Guess that's not "scientific" either.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)People won't be able to vote a hundred times each
Fearless
(18,421 posts)On your computer so you can't vote more than once.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)(eyeroll included)
Well, even the one giving the poll says it is not scientific
Fearless
(18,421 posts)How can you claim something isn't something if you don't define what isn't is.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Since they created the poll, I trust what they say.
Ask them.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Burden of proof is on the accuser.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)The poll creators says it is not scientific.
Again, they made the poll, therefore, they know better that anyone if it is scientific or not. They themselves say it is not.
What more proof do you want.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)A scientific poll would reach random numbers of people which reflects the population as a whole.
I have no idea what Time disclaimer that the poll is NOT scientific has to do with me knowing, but there you go.
I'm done with this.
Good night
Fearless
(18,421 posts)So, tell me, how can you prove ANYTHING represents the population as a whole without asking the entire population their opinion?
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)The sample size should represent the population as a whole.
You're right, though... You appeared to be done with this up thread.
840high
(17,196 posts)trueblue2007
(17,239 posts)Hillary Clinton arrived in Las Vegas as the overwhelming front-runner for the Democratic nomination, and she was destined to leave as the favorite, too. Instead of turning in the safe and solid performance she needed, though, Clinton was closer to spectacular on Tuesday night.
She was confident early and poised throughout. More surprisinglyand perhaps more importantlyshe also drew first blood on Bernie Sanders, who was put on the defensive early when CNN moderator Anderson Cooper pressed him to explain the biggest blemish on his otherwise progressive resume: His 2005 vote to shield gun makers and dealers from lawsuits. With Sanders struggling, Cooper turned to Clinton to ask if her rival is tough enough on guns. Hillary, who earlier this month cleverly made repealing that same law a centerpiece of her gun reform proposal, didnt hesitate. No, she said, not at all. Toward the end of the debate she was even able to put some focus on the historic nature of her candidacy and to take some shots at the GOP, two themes that would certainly be central to any general election campaign.
<SNIP> She was confident early and poised throughout. More surprisinglyand perhaps more importantlyshe also drew first blood on Bernie Sanders, who was put on the defensive early when CNN moderator Anderson Cooper pressed him to explain the biggest blemish on his otherwise progressive resume: His 2005 vote to shield gun makers and dealers from lawsuits. With Sanders struggling, Cooper turned to Clinton to ask if her rival is tough enough on guns. Hillary, who earlier this month cleverly made repealing that same law a centerpiece of her gun reform proposal, didnt hesitate. No, she said, not at all. Toward the end of the debate she was even able to put some focus on the historic nature of her candidacy and to take some shots at the GOP, two themes that would certainly be central to any general election campaign.
Clintons jujitsu wasnt relegated to questions about her past. Clintons partisan witch-huntthemed response to questions about her email scandal was nothing we havent heard from her beforebut the response to her strong delivery suggested that Democratic voters are willing to forgive and forget. Not only did she draw boisterous cheers from the crowd with her tried-if-not-completely-true defense, she even had Sanders coming to her aid.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/10/13/hillary_clinton_won_the_cnn_debate_with_a_surprising_performance.html
oasis
(49,409 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Every poll I have seen has Bernie winning and winning big.
tritsofme
(17,399 posts)Sanders played well to his base, but seemed to do little to expand his tent.
The others were complete non-factors, who already register at statistically insignificant levels in most polls. I don't think that is likely to change. And if it doesn't soon, they should probably start dropping out.
Even though that would not be good from a tactical perspective for Clinton, (always better for the front runner to have a bunch of minor leaguers up there than to elevate a single opponent as your equal) a few one on one match ups with Bernie would make for great TV.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Hillary KILLED it tonight!!
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)About how incompetent Hillary's staff is and that it was Bernie who rescued her, and you add a title that's a misleading non sequitur.
Sounds like Hillary is in trouble!
deutsey
(20,166 posts)but his larger point about what the issues really are (e.g., oligarchy vs. democracy) was the most important part of what he said. Of course, most clips I've seen so far cut him off after the "damn emails" part.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)No doubt her polling numbers will go up as a result.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The second tier candidates, not so much.