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JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:31 PM Oct 2015

Clinton CRUSHES it.



The first debate was the Hillary and Bernie Show, and Clinton received top billing.

Not only was Hillary Clinton on the receiving end of the night’s biggest gift — her rival, Bernie Sanders, declaring it time for people to shut up about her email scandal — she also delivered some of the evening’s most stinging retorts.

The Democratic front-runner showed renewed energy and comfort on a presidential debate stage where she, but none of the others, had been before. But one of the most dramatic and memorable moments came from Sanders. And it was a plea for the political conversation to move on from the email controversy that has consumed much of the conversation about the overall Democratic race.

“The American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails,” Sanders declared, after Clinton defended her use of a private email server while she was secretary of state and cast the Republican-led congressional investigation as overly partisan.

Clinton beamed wide and, when Sanders was done, reached over to shake his hand. “Thank you Bernie,” she smiled. Inside the room at the Wynn resort and casino, there was a standing ovation among the Democratic attendees of the debate.

It wasn’t just Clinton and the crowd that was celebrating. Behind the scenes, her team was too. “Bernie Sanders just did for Hillary what her own staff could not,” one source close to the Clinton campaign said in an email



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/2016-presidential-debates-democrats-las-vegas-214724#ixzz3oVeSihG9
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Clinton CRUSHES it. (Original Post) JaneyVee Oct 2015 OP
K&R sheshe2 Oct 2015 #1
Not so much. John Poet Oct 2015 #2
LOL Thanks for the link to a blog. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #4
As opposed to a link to a blog? Egnever Oct 2015 #12
lol Matariki Oct 2015 #28
That one comment was great Sheepshank Oct 2015 #3
She did well but I wouldn't say she crushed it Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #5
“Bernie Sanders just did for Hillary what her own staff could not” - Exactly! demwing Oct 2015 #6
Keep reading the article. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #13
Yeah. I did demwing Oct 2015 #14
Whatever. reformist2 Oct 2015 #7
Hillary came out of it smelling like a rose. oasis Oct 2015 #8
YUUUUGE. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #15
Hillary Clinton did great tonight. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #9
She was well composed. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2015 #10
Every poll I can find has Bernie winning big. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #11
The newest meme is that they're not "scientific" Fearless Oct 2015 #16
Time online agrees lunamagica Oct 2015 #17
You do realize that the actual election won't "necessarily represent the public as a whole" right? Fearless Oct 2015 #18
GMAB Apples and oranges. lunamagica Oct 2015 #20
The Time poll as well as most of the others track your IP address or else alter the website's cookie Fearless Oct 2015 #21
The point was than you said that "the new meme" was that it wasn't scientific lunamagica Oct 2015 #22
You've yet to define "scientific" Fearless Oct 2015 #23
Me? Why? Time is the one saying their poll is not scientific lunamagica Oct 2015 #24
YOU are the one that brought it up. YOU need to define it. Fearless Oct 2015 #25
Again, I just broung Time didclaimer that the poll is unscientific lunamagica Oct 2015 #27
You don't even know do you? Fearless Oct 2015 #29
This is absurd lunamagica Oct 2015 #31
Ohhh there we go scientific = "reflects the population as a whole" Fearless Oct 2015 #32
Actually, it's not "random"... MrMickeysMom Oct 2015 #38
He won BIG. 840high Oct 2015 #19
Hillary Clinton Won the CNN Debate With a Surprisingly Spectacular Performance trueblue2007 Oct 2015 #26
Great piece. (eom) oasis Oct 2015 #30
That is just a blog post. Slate's poll has Bernie winning 75% - 18% for Hillary Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #35
Hillary was absolutely dominant, possibly enough so to scare Biden from the race. tritsofme Oct 2015 #33
Lets hear this part again!!! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #34
Hahaha!! What a ridiculous thread! 6 paragraphs WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #36
I was glad Bernie said what he said about the damn emails deutsey Oct 2015 #37
Morning kick before work. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #39
Yep.. that is how I saw it as well. DCBob Oct 2015 #40
Bernie and Hillary were both great oberliner Oct 2015 #41
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
3. That one comment was great
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:54 PM
Oct 2015

And raised the level of national debate and discourse 900%. Let's contrast this to the Republican debate........oh never mind

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
6. “Bernie Sanders just did for Hillary what her own staff could not” - Exactly!
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:57 PM
Oct 2015

Bernie CRUSHES it!

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
17. Time online agrees
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:29 AM
Oct 2015

DISCLAIMER: This web poll is not scientific. It reflects opinions of site visitors who voluntarily participate. Results may not represent the opinions of the public as a whole.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
18. You do realize that the actual election won't "necessarily represent the public as a whole" right?
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:31 AM
Oct 2015

Guess that's not "scientific" either.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
21. The Time poll as well as most of the others track your IP address or else alter the website's cookie
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:33 AM
Oct 2015

On your computer so you can't vote more than once.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
22. The point was than you said that "the new meme" was that it wasn't scientific
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:36 AM
Oct 2015

(eyeroll included)

Well, even the one giving the poll says it is not scientific

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
23. You've yet to define "scientific"
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:37 AM
Oct 2015

How can you claim something isn't something if you don't define what isn't is.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
24. Me? Why? Time is the one saying their poll is not scientific
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:42 AM
Oct 2015

Since they created the poll, I trust what they say.

Ask them.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
27. Again, I just broung Time didclaimer that the poll is unscientific
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:46 AM
Oct 2015

The poll creators says it is not scientific.

Again, they made the poll, therefore, they know better that anyone if it is scientific or not. They themselves say it is not.


What more proof do you want.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
31. This is absurd
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:57 AM
Oct 2015

A scientific poll would reach random numbers of people which reflects the population as a whole.

I have no idea what Time disclaimer that the poll is NOT scientific has to do with me knowing, but there you go.

I'm done with this.

Good night

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
32. Ohhh there we go scientific = "reflects the population as a whole"
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 02:06 AM
Oct 2015

So, tell me, how can you prove ANYTHING represents the population as a whole without asking the entire population their opinion?

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
38. Actually, it's not "random"...
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 07:00 AM
Oct 2015

The sample size should represent the population as a whole.

You're right, though... You appeared to be done with this up thread.

trueblue2007

(17,239 posts)
26. Hillary Clinton Won the CNN Debate With a Surprisingly Spectacular Performance
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:45 AM
Oct 2015

Hillary Clinton arrived in Las Vegas as the overwhelming front-runner for the Democratic nomination, and she was destined to leave as the favorite, too. Instead of turning in the safe and solid performance she needed, though, Clinton was closer to spectacular on Tuesday night.

She was confident early and poised throughout. More surprisingly—and perhaps more importantly—she also drew first blood on Bernie Sanders, who was put on the defensive early when CNN moderator Anderson Cooper pressed him to explain the biggest blemish on his otherwise progressive resume: His 2005 vote to shield gun makers and dealers from lawsuits. With Sanders struggling, Cooper turned to Clinton to ask if her rival is “tough enough on guns.” Hillary, who earlier this month cleverly made repealing that same law a centerpiece of her gun reform proposal, didn’t hesitate. “No,” she said, “not at all.” Toward the end of the debate she was even able to put some focus on the historic nature of her candidacy and to take some shots at the GOP, two themes that would certainly be central to any general election campaign.

<SNIP> She was confident early and poised throughout. More surprisingly—and perhaps more importantly—she also drew first blood on Bernie Sanders, who was put on the defensive early when CNN moderator Anderson Cooper pressed him to explain the biggest blemish on his otherwise progressive resume: His 2005 vote to shield gun makers and dealers from lawsuits. With Sanders struggling, Cooper turned to Clinton to ask if her rival is “tough enough on guns.” Hillary, who earlier this month cleverly made repealing that same law a centerpiece of her gun reform proposal, didn’t hesitate. “No,” she said, “not at all.” Toward the end of the debate she was even able to put some focus on the historic nature of her candidacy and to take some shots at the GOP, two themes that would certainly be central to any general election campaign.

Clinton’s jujitsu wasn’t relegated to questions about her past. Clinton’s partisan witch-hunt–themed response to questions about her email scandal was nothing we haven’t heard from her before—but the response to her strong delivery suggested that Democratic voters are willing to forgive and forget. Not only did she draw boisterous cheers from the crowd with her tried-if-not-completely-true defense, she even had Sanders coming to her aid.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/10/13/hillary_clinton_won_the_cnn_debate_with_a_surprising_performance.html

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
35. That is just a blog post. Slate's poll has Bernie winning 75% - 18% for Hillary
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 06:35 AM
Oct 2015

Every poll I have seen has Bernie winning and winning big.





tritsofme

(17,399 posts)
33. Hillary was absolutely dominant, possibly enough so to scare Biden from the race.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 02:18 AM
Oct 2015

Sanders played well to his base, but seemed to do little to expand his tent.

The others were complete non-factors, who already register at statistically insignificant levels in most polls. I don't think that is likely to change. And if it doesn't soon, they should probably start dropping out.

Even though that would not be good from a tactical perspective for Clinton, (always better for the front runner to have a bunch of minor leaguers up there than to elevate a single opponent as your equal) a few one on one match ups with Bernie would make for great TV.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
34. Lets hear this part again!!!
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 02:26 AM
Oct 2015
"It wasn’t just Clinton and the crowd that was celebrating. Behind the scenes, her team was too. “Bernie Sanders just did for Hillary what her own staff could not,” one source close to the Clinton campaign said in an email"

Hillary KILLED it tonight!!
 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
36. Hahaha!! What a ridiculous thread! 6 paragraphs
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 06:43 AM
Oct 2015

About how incompetent Hillary's staff is and that it was Bernie who rescued her, and you add a title that's a misleading non sequitur.

Sounds like Hillary is in trouble!

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
37. I was glad Bernie said what he said about the damn emails
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 06:55 AM
Oct 2015

but his larger point about what the issues really are (e.g., oligarchy vs. democracy) was the most important part of what he said. Of course, most clips I've seen so far cut him off after the "damn emails" part.

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