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Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 09:59 AM Oct 2015

The morning after: Clinton's chance to win nomination increase to 73%

A 5% increase from pre-debate

C - 73% (+5)
S - 14% (+3)
B - 11% (-7)
MOM - 1% (unchanged)

Predictive markets seem to have concluded both candidates did well but Clinton picks up more support by freezing Biden out.

This certainly seems to support the overarching story that Clinton and Sanders both came off well with Clinton doing what she needed to do to solidify herself as the frontrunner.

Suppose I should include a link on edit

http://www.predictwise.com

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Ron Green

(9,823 posts)
1. "Predictive markets." What a joke.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 10:04 AM
Oct 2015

It's clear that more people responded positively to Bernie Sanders' message, and just as clear that the MSM is spinning Hillary Clinton's smooth appearance as a "win."

Your "predictive markets" are exactly what's wrong with the American political process.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
3. And what do you think predictive markets are, exactly?
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 10:08 AM
Oct 2015

Because the overarching theme that people are seeing and responding to today is that Clinton did enough to solidify her status yesterday.

Ron Green

(9,823 posts)
4. The overarching theme is that pundits and the media are doing what they do, which is to
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 10:16 AM
Oct 2015

bolster the status quo with headlines, images and "polls," while measures of who really heard the messages show otherwise.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
5. This is what's happening. The status quo is attempting to frame the debate. Tell America how we
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 10:19 AM
Oct 2015

should think.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
6. Hmm. And what measures are real then?
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 10:20 AM
Oct 2015

There have been exactly zero polls post debate, so I am curious what you're basing your measures on. Google searches? Twitter followers? DU?

Ron Green

(9,823 posts)
7. The only real measure is the vote, of course. But what the corporate media are doing is illustrative
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 10:33 AM
Oct 2015

of the exact problem we've got: a deadened US population fed by images and words paid for by those who don't want or need real change. And Bernie Sanders' big message last night (I challenge you to see it reported in any mainstream source) is that people in great numbers must wake up and seize the electoral process away from the oligarchs.

ALL the media sources crowing about Clinton's "win" (and she did have a very smooth showing) are invested in preventing something like Bernie's "revolution" from ever happening.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
2. Hillary elected President of the predictive markets and the Punditocracy.......
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 10:05 AM
Oct 2015

.....because nothing else matters.

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