I really wish people would stop saying

[NuclearDem]

that "Bernie or bust" is the same thing as "I'll never vote for Clinton."

It's getting absolutely ridiculous, and I'm getting sick and tired of seeing a certain candidate's supporters use it to try to get good DUers banned.

"I'll never vote for Clinton" and "I'll only support Bernie" are not the same thing. Those words are entirely different. Different sentences.

It's against the TOS to advocate not voting for the Democratic nominee, which is exactly what "I'll never vote for Clinton" would mean should Clinton become the nominee.

"I'll only support Bernie", on the other hand, is a completely different sentence. Different words and everything.

[saturnsring]

1. how does "i'll only support bernie" not equate to i wont support hillary

anyone who says that should be ppr'd

[NuclearDem]

3. See, it's the words.

Saying "I'll never support Clinton even if she was the nominee" would be a violation of the TOS.

"I'll only support Bernie" using entirely different words. It's not saying "I'll never support Clinton."

[thesquanderer]

4. "support" and "vote for" are not synonomous (n/t)

[luvspeas]

2. Straight from the horses' (admin's) mouth...

Unfortunately, there are some people here who who say they won't support the nominee and actually won't. As we explained above, our feeling is that we want to give people the benefit of the doubt. But if you convince us that you actually mean it and you really aren't going to support the nominee, then we're going to treat you like you actually mean it. That person who started the OP telling people to sign the pledge that they won't support the Democratic nominee was very convincing, and is no longer a member of DU.

They consulted the stone of zanzibar and decreed that indeed they saw an honest man.

[Cali_Democrat]

5. LOL. nt

[zappaman]

6. It's pretty clear what "Bernie or Bust" means.

http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/07/24/bernie-or-bust-write-in-pledge-circulating-sign-up-today-and-make-your-voice-heard/

The “Bernie or Bust” pledge’s goal is to have one million Americans say that even if Bernie doesn’t win the Democratic Party’s nomination, they will write him in as their candidate in 2016. Make your voice heard and join the Bernie Sanders movement!

[JI7]

9. doesn't say much about their support for him if at this time their goal

is based on him losing.

But i think most of those are more anti Clinton than pro Sanders anyways.

[JaneyVee]

10. Jesus.

[Skidmore]

13. Amen

[prayin4rain]

11. Oh wow, I didn't know that. I love Bernie Sanders, but that's just wrong.

Anybody who wants to divide the party and help get a Republican elected is not ethical. My assumption is that Bernie himself did not think this up, but he needs to denounce it, in my opinion.

[DianeK]

7. i have never said that...but...

we are allowed to be passionate during the primaries...pragmatic during the general

[luvspeas]

8. some dissent is allowed...n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

12. Since "bust" can also colloquially mean breasts, im honestly surprised no one has tried to claim

That the statement is sexist.

Although now, someone probably will. Thank me later!

[randys1]

15. Nah, not sexist, just saying NOT voting for HIllary but writing in Bernie

http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/07/24/bernie-or-bust-write-in-pledge-circulating-sign-up-today-and-make-your-voice-heard/




Something I am to understand you CANT do and post on this board.

[Warren DeMontague]

18. Sure. I still think the only reason no one has played a "gotcha" with that word yet

Is because they lack the imaginative linguistic acuity. Not because they wouldnt be willing to pull such a blatantly disingenuous move.

If you want to lecture me about the TOS, you're wasting your time. Ive already said i am voting for the nominee, like I do every 4 years.

doesnt mean i need to take certain folks' low-valence bs any more seriously than it deserves.

[randys1]

14. Yes, SAME Thing

The “Bernie or Bust” pledge’s goal is to have one million Americans say that even if Bernie doesn’t win the Democratic Party’s nomination, they will write him in as their candidate in 2016. Make your voice heard and join the Bernie Sanders movement!

http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/07/24/bernie-or-bust-write-in-pledge-circulating-sign-up-today-and-make-your-voice-heard/

[mcar]

16. That is crystal clear

[DURHAM D]

17. Seems you need to take this up with the guy who

wrote the TOS.

Good luck with that.