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Did Bernie register as a Democrat? (Original Post) JaneyVee Nov 2015 OP
Your former Presidential pick... MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #1
How did Patrick Leahy become a member of the Democratic Party? Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #3
huh? DianeK Nov 2015 #6
Just like Bernie, says he is. Bernie classified himself in Vermont as Democrat, but went by LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #9
Why doesn't he just call himself a Dem? Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #17
I think because he did not feel like them. And when he ran for mayor and all the Democratic LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #22
Bernie has previously declared "I and not a Democrat" Sheepshank Nov 2015 #32
Go to his campaign wiki page. To claim he was believed in all the Democratic principals LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #33
But still he rejects the party, except he wants their voters allegiance. Nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #43
Do you feel that Sanders' positions are antithetical or harmful to the Democratic party? Scootaloo Nov 2015 #51
Oh... I know! MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #52
He ran and won on the Democratic ticket Alittleliberal Nov 2015 #53
there is no party registration in vermont DianeK Nov 2015 #2
But if you have to register as a Dem to run as a Dem in NH... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #4
i am not real concerned about NH DianeK Nov 2015 #11
Not according to NH State laws leftofcool Nov 2015 #30
Ahhhh, wonder if the new Republican gov will try to change that? Nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #36
He can't register to vote in Kentucky. He doesn't live there. drm604 Nov 2015 #39
A couple of links below LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #5
Not quite the full story Sheepshank Nov 2015 #38
Use this pinebox Nov 2015 #7
You do not register as a membr of a party in Vermont. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #8
No but you can call yourself VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #12
Sanders gets to "Evolve". MohRokTah Nov 2015 #13
I am also fine with his evolution. It is very prudent. bravenak Nov 2015 #16
Nope but 6 years ago he described himself VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #10
scary! DianeK Nov 2015 #14
Do you oppose all Capitalism? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #15
of course not! DianeK Nov 2015 #19
Socialists do! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #21
No they don't aspirant Nov 2015 #37
and the Op says aspirant Nov 2015 #18
Has Bernie said so? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #20
you are hung up on labels... DianeK Nov 2015 #23
It seems NH is hung up on labels as well. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #24
Its possible. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #28
These are HIS labels VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #26
Read it and weep aspirant Nov 2015 #25
Exactly.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #27
Read it and weep aspirant Nov 2015 #29
stay tuned DianeK Nov 2015 #31
NO fear here aspirant Nov 2015 #34
Wow, was he the only one? Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #50
You seem so concerned with labels Kalidurga Nov 2015 #35
It appears that Bernie is just as concerned with avoiding labels Sheepshank Nov 2015 #46
So he avoids being called a Democrat Kalidurga Nov 2015 #47
More accurately he avoids calling himself a Democrat. Nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #54
I posted this on another thread Sheepshank Nov 2015 #40
I'm a Democrat and the DNC says Bernie is a Democratic candidate and the Democratic Party Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #41
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Shakespeare Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #42
From the definitions I have read Sheepshank Nov 2015 #44
Norway? What outrage from Norway? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #45
Oh dear did I name the wrong country...Denmark? Sheepshank Nov 2015 #56
Oh, that's OK. They all look the same...like Socialists. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #58
Did someone change Vermont registration law? ibegurpard Nov 2015 #48
Stupid op is stupid. PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #49
For the 10 billionth time, Vermont doesn't have partisan voter registration jfern Nov 2015 #55
and it doesn't matter Mnpaul Nov 2015 #57
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
3. How did Patrick Leahy become a member of the Democratic Party?
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 08:51 PM
Nov 2015
Patrick Joseph Leahy (/ˈleɪhiː/;[1] born March 31, 1940) is the senior United States Senator from Vermont, in office since 1975. A member of the Democratic Party, Leahy served as the President pro tempore of the United States Senate from December 17, 2012 to January 6, 2015; as President pro tempore, he was third in the presidential line of succession. He is the most senior senator and took office at a younger age than any other current senator. Leahy received the title of President pro tempore emeritus upon the commencement of the 114th Congress.

Leahy is the only elected Democratic Senator in Vermont's history. He is the former chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. The Senate Judiciary Committee worked extensively on prison reform with the introduction on a number of bills aimed at reforming the overcrowded prisons. The bills include: the Justice Safety Valve Act of 2013, The Smarter Sentencing Act of 2013, and the Public Safety Enhancement Act.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Leahy

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
9. Just like Bernie, says he is. Bernie classified himself in Vermont as Democrat, but went by
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 08:56 PM
Nov 2015

indépendant in the Senate. Reid thougt he was Democratic enough to be ranking member of Budget Committee.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
17. Why doesn't he just call himself a Dem?
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:05 PM
Nov 2015

Instead a lot of people within the party view him as an interloper and an outsider because he still calls himself an Independent.

Patrick Leahy and Howard Dean never had a problem calling themselves Dems. I don't recall Howard Dean ever having ballot issues in NH.

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
22. I think because he did not feel like them. And when he ran for mayor and all the Democratic
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:10 PM
Nov 2015

party was the party of the right wing in the south, it was the party of Richard Daley in Chicago 68. I labeled myself as an Independent still. No problem in Arkansas, but the Democratic party in a lot of areas is pretty damn conservative. I was proud of being a Democrat during the RFK and up through Carter, but not so much since. That is probably the parties problem.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
32. Bernie has previously declared "I and not a Democrat"
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:30 PM
Nov 2015

And then more recently went one step,further and said that he is an Independent:

http://www.pressherald.com/2015/05/03/bernie-sanders-backtracks-on-party-registration/
Announcing his candidacy Thursday outside the U.S. Capitol, the Vermont senator rejected any suggestion that he register as a Democrat. “No,” Sanders said, “I’m an independent.”


So why doesn't he just come out and say what his most recent political evolution is?

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
33. Go to his campaign wiki page. To claim he was believed in all the Democratic principals
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:34 PM
Nov 2015

would have meant supporting DOMA, the wars, not supporting gay rights, not supporting the ERA etc. The easy path would have been to be Democrat and follow the same path as HRC and the others.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
52. Oh... I know!
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:57 PM
Nov 2015

Since you won't hear back from that poster, I'll answer it easily...

His positions are the last HOPE for the Democratic Party.

 

DianeK

(975 posts)
11. i am not real concerned about NH
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 08:57 PM
Nov 2015

and I am sure he is not either...party affiliation is minor..imo..

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
30. Not according to NH State laws
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:25 PM
Nov 2015

And btw, Bernie won't be on the ballot in Kentucky either unless he registers here as a Democrat.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
39. He can't register to vote in Kentucky. He doesn't live there.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:42 PM
Nov 2015

In what other way can he "register as a Democrat" in Kentucky other than on the voting rolls?

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
5. A couple of links below
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 08:53 PM
Nov 2015
http://ballotpedia.org/Jeff_Weaver
Jeff Weaver is a Democratic political advisor. He was Sen. Bernie Sanders' (D-Vt.) chief of staff and former congressional campaign manager. In May 2015, Weaver was appointed campaign manager for Sanders' 2016 presidential campaign.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders_presidential_campaign,_2016
Bernie Sanders for President
Bernie Sanders 2016 logo.svg
Campaign U.S. presidential election, 2016
Candidate Bernie Sanders
U.S. Senator (2007–present)
U.S. Representative (1991–2007)
Mayor of Burlington (1981–1989)
Affiliation Democratic Party
(serves as Independent in Senate)
Status Announced: April 30, 2015
Formal launch: May 26, 2015
Headquarters 131 Church Street Suite 300
Burlington, Vermont
Key people Jeff Weaver, campaign manager[1]
Symone D. Sanders, press secretary[2][3]
Receipts US$41,463,783 (2015-09-30[4])
Slogan A Future To Believe In
A Political Revolution Is Coming
Not For Sale

In Vermont there is no party membership affiliation
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
38. Not quite the full story
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:39 PM
Nov 2015
http://blogs.rollcall.com/hawkings/bernie-sanders-2016-proud-non-democrat/
Updated 11:05 a.m. | When Bernard Sanders declared his candidacy for the Democratic presidential nomination, he joined a lengthening roster of gadflies who have run in order to push the party to the left.

So will it matter that he is not now, never has been and does not plan to become an actual Democrat?


http://www.pressherald.com/2015/05/03/bernie-sanders-backtracks-on-party-registration/
Announcing his candidacy Thursday outside the U.S. Capitol, the Vermont senator rejected any suggestion that he register as a Democrat. “No,” Sanders said, “I’m an independent.”


http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/10/politics/bernie-sanders-democrat-or-independent/
A Democratic National Committee aide says the fact Bernie Sanders isn't a registered Democrat might not be a presidential problem for him
The party defines "bona fide Democrats" as someone "whose record of public service, accomplishment, public writings" comport with the party
Sanders has been an independent since the 1980s, but has caucused with the Democrats since coming to Congress in 1991


Each of these articles were from earlier on this year, but I've not found anything that has change or that Bernie has done to change his party affiliation since these articles were written.
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
8. You do not register as a membr of a party in Vermont.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 08:55 PM
Nov 2015

So technically, he is whatever he says he is. If he says he's now a Democrat, he is.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
12. No but you can call yourself
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 08:57 PM
Nov 2015

Whatever you like....Sandets called himself a Socialist full stop....just 6 yrs ago!

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
15. Do you oppose all Capitalism?
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:01 PM
Nov 2015

Sicialists do...you want THAT?

BTW Socialist Democrats prefer regulated capitalism with a Welfare State...

 

DianeK

(975 posts)
19. of course not!
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:07 PM
Nov 2015

I am a business woman..have been for 26 years..but capitalism must be softened by a caring for the working person...we already have a lot of that with our public school system ..our interstate road system..when you pay taxes that is contributing to your socialist community..but we must augment that so that the least of us are considered

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
21. Socialists do!
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:08 PM
Nov 2015

Socialist Democrats dont.....but Bernie doesnt call himself that....and Democratic Socialist is just a Socialist with elections...

6 years ago Sanders called himself the lone Socialist...


http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/sanders-socialist-successes

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
18. and the Op says
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:05 PM
Nov 2015

Questions Loom About Bernie Sanders Qualifying for First Democratic Primary
Presidential candidate says he is a Democrat now, but New Hampshire official is coy about whether lifelong independent will make ballot
By Laura Meckler And
Peter Nicholas
Nov. 4, 2015 4:55 p.m. ET

MANCHESTER, N.H.—When Sen. Bernie Sanders files paperwork on Thursday to run in New Hampshire’s presidential primary, a question looms: Is he a Democrat, and if not, can he run in that party’s primary?

"Presidential candidate says he is a DEMOCRAT now" Any DNC aides say he isn't?

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
20. Has Bernie said so?
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:07 PM
Nov 2015

Nope....has he disavowwed Socialism yet? Nope....

When do I get to hear Bernie say I am now a Democrat?

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
24. It seems NH is hung up on labels as well.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:15 PM
Nov 2015

Can they even legally keep him off the ballot, or is this Gardner guy just being a douche?

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
28. Its possible.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:20 PM
Nov 2015

Someone..anyone actually could challenge...I know at least 5 states that do require Democratic Registration.....calling yourself a Socialist 6 yrs ago does call it into question.

 

DianeK

(975 posts)
31. stay tuned
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:27 PM
Nov 2015

this is not over yet and it may get very interesting..i am not afraid of how it might play out..are you?

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
34. NO fear here
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:35 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie wins any way it goes

If he is put on the ballot he will win as a DEMOCRAT in NH

If he's not on the ballot then they have literally thrown him out of the party and all hell will break lose.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
35. You seem so concerned with labels
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:36 PM
Nov 2015

I think the content of a person's character is more important. But, carry on.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
46. It appears that Bernie is just as concerned with avoiding labels
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:51 PM
Nov 2015

Clearly, those labels have meaning. Why is he avoiding making the great public announcement that he has decided to become a registered Democrat?

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
47. So he avoids being called a Democrat
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:10 PM
Nov 2015

I did the same thing after Democrat after Democrat voted for the IWR.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
40. I posted this on another thread
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:46 PM
Nov 2015

Unfortunately this hand held device makes it difficult for me to format the quoted excerpts, but I think we get the idea from the links, that Bernie could register as a Dem, but choses not to. And that not only has he previously stated that he is not a Democrat, he clarifies that he is an Independent.


http://blogs.rollcall.com/hawkings/bernie-sanders-2016-proud-non-democrat/
Updated 11:05 a.m. | When Bernard Sanders declared his candidacy for the Democratic presidential nomination, he joined a lengthening roster of gadflies who have run in order to push the party to the left. So will it matter that he is not now, never has been and does not plan to become an actual Democrat?


http://www.pressherald.com/2015/05/03/bernie-sanders-backtracks-on-party-registration/
Announcing his candidacy Thursday outside the U.S. Capitol, the Vermont senator rejected any suggestion that he register as a Democrat. “No,” Sanders said, “I’m an independent.”


http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/10/politics/bernie-sanders-democrat-or-independent/
A Democratic National Committee aide says the fact Bernie Sanders isn't a registered Democrat might not be a presidential problem for him
The party defines "bona fide Democrats" as someone "whose record of public service, accomplishment, public writings" comport with the party
Sanders has been an independent since the 1980s, but has caucused with the Democrats since coming to Congress in 1991


Each of these articles were from earlier on this year, but I've not found anything that has change or that Bernie has done to change his party affiliation since these articles were written.


 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
41. I'm a Democrat and the DNC says Bernie is a Democratic candidate and the Democratic Party
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:46 PM
Nov 2015

of New Hampshire says Bernie is a Democrat and the State Party Chairman Ray Buckley will be coming with him to the Sec of State's office, and last month, Buckley released a letter addressed to the Secretary of State explaining that the state party “considers Senator Bernie Sanders to be a member of the Democratic Party.”

So while primary fervor for your candidate is all good and well, this particular brand express a strong disagreement with the New Hampshire Democratic Party. You do not agree with their position, which gives you much in common with the New Hampshire Republican Party.
That's a wrap, Janey.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
42. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Shakespeare
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:47 PM
Nov 2015

Is a Democratic Socialist as sweet as a Socialist Democrat?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
44. From the definitions I have read
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:49 PM
Nov 2015

And from the outrage from Norway, I don't believe those terms are interchangeable.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
48. Did someone change Vermont registration law?
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:12 PM
Nov 2015

If not then if he says he's a Democrat and is running as a Democrat then he's a Democrat.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
57. and it doesn't matter
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:55 AM
Nov 2015

In presidential primaries, national party rules take precedence over state law, said Thomas Connolly, a spokesman for the BOE. As long as Mr. Sanders “espouses party ideals, then actual enrollment is not an issue.”
http://observer.com/2015/06/can-bernie-sanders-appear-on-the-democratic-primary-ballot-in-new-york/

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