2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDid Bernie register as a Democrat?
This stupid WSJ article won't let me read the full story, cuts off after Sanders says "I am now a Democrat".
http://www.wsj.com/articles/questions-loom-about-bernie-sanders-qualifying-for-first-democratic-primary-1446674092
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)can't register as anything in Vermont. There's no formal affiliation.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Leahy is the only elected Democratic Senator in Vermont's history. He is the former chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. The Senate Judiciary Committee worked extensively on prison reform with the introduction on a number of bills aimed at reforming the overcrowded prisons. The bills include: the Justice Safety Valve Act of 2013, The Smarter Sentencing Act of 2013, and the Public Safety Enhancement Act.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Leahy
I don't understand your question
LiberalArkie
(15,728 posts)indépendant in the Senate. Reid thougt he was Democratic enough to be ranking member of Budget Committee.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Instead a lot of people within the party view him as an interloper and an outsider because he still calls himself an Independent.
Patrick Leahy and Howard Dean never had a problem calling themselves Dems. I don't recall Howard Dean ever having ballot issues in NH.
LiberalArkie
(15,728 posts)party was the party of the right wing in the south, it was the party of Richard Daley in Chicago 68. I labeled myself as an Independent still. No problem in Arkansas, but the Democratic party in a lot of areas is pretty damn conservative. I was proud of being a Democrat during the RFK and up through Carter, but not so much since. That is probably the parties problem.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)And then more recently went one step,further and said that he is an Independent:
Announcing his candidacy Thursday outside the U.S. Capitol, the Vermont senator rejected any suggestion that he register as a Democrat. No, Sanders said, Im an independent.
So why doesn't he just come out and say what his most recent political evolution is?
LiberalArkie
(15,728 posts)would have meant supporting DOMA, the wars, not supporting gay rights, not supporting the ERA etc. The easy path would have been to be Democrat and follow the same path as HRC and the others.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Since you won't hear back from that poster, I'll answer it easily...
His positions are the last HOPE for the Democratic Party.
Alittleliberal
(528 posts)Bernie ran and won as an Independent.
DianeK
(975 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Why refuse to register as a Dem?
DianeK
(975 posts)and I am sure he is not either...party affiliation is minor..imo..
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)And btw, Bernie won't be on the ballot in Kentucky either unless he registers here as a Democrat.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)drm604
(16,230 posts)In what other way can he "register as a Democrat" in Kentucky other than on the voting rolls?
LiberalArkie
(15,728 posts)Jeff Weaver is a Democratic political advisor. He was Sen. Bernie Sanders' (D-Vt.) chief of staff and former congressional campaign manager. In May 2015, Weaver was appointed campaign manager for Sanders' 2016 presidential campaign.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders_presidential_campaign,_2016
Bernie Sanders for President
Bernie Sanders 2016 logo.svg
Campaign U.S. presidential election, 2016
Candidate Bernie Sanders
U.S. Senator (2007present)
U.S. Representative (19912007)
Mayor of Burlington (19811989)
Affiliation Democratic Party
(serves as Independent in Senate)
Status Announced: April 30, 2015
Formal launch: May 26, 2015
Headquarters 131 Church Street Suite 300
Burlington, Vermont
Key people Jeff Weaver, campaign manager[1]
Symone D. Sanders, press secretary[2][3]
Receipts US$41,463,783 (2015-09-30[4])
Slogan A Future To Believe In
A Political Revolution Is Coming
Not For Sale
In Vermont there is no party membership affiliation
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Updated 11:05 a.m. | When Bernard Sanders declared his candidacy for the Democratic presidential nomination, he joined a lengthening roster of gadflies who have run in order to push the party to the left.
So will it matter that he is not now, never has been and does not plan to become an actual Democrat?
http://www.pressherald.com/2015/05/03/bernie-sanders-backtracks-on-party-registration/
Announcing his candidacy Thursday outside the U.S. Capitol, the Vermont senator rejected any suggestion that he register as a Democrat. No, Sanders said, Im an independent.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/10/politics/bernie-sanders-democrat-or-independent/
A Democratic National Committee aide says the fact Bernie Sanders isn't a registered Democrat might not be a presidential problem for him
The party defines "bona fide Democrats" as someone "whose record of public service, accomplishment, public writings" comport with the party
Sanders has been an independent since the 1980s, but has caucused with the Democrats since coming to Congress in 1991
Each of these articles were from earlier on this year, but I've not found anything that has change or that Bernie has done to change his party affiliation since these articles were written.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)So technically, he is whatever he says he is. If he says he's now a Democrat, he is.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Whatever you like....Sandets called himself a Socialist full stop....just 6 yrs ago!
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Didn't you know he gets a pass for stuff like that?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)As the lone Socialist....quite literally....want to see?
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/sanders-socialist-successes
DianeK
(975 posts)boo! someone is actually an open minded independently thinking individual..whooooo
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Sicialists do...you want THAT?
BTW Socialist Democrats prefer regulated capitalism with a Welfare State...
DianeK
(975 posts)I am a business woman..have been for 26 years..but capitalism must be softened by a caring for the working person...we already have a lot of that with our public school system ..our interstate road system..when you pay taxes that is contributing to your socialist community..but we must augment that so that the least of us are considered
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Socialist Democrats dont.....but Bernie doesnt call himself that....and Democratic Socialist is just a Socialist with elections...
6 years ago Sanders called himself the lone Socialist...
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/sanders-socialist-successes
aspirant
(3,533 posts)Bernie put it out in the CNN debate that he is against CASINO-CAPITALISM
aspirant
(3,533 posts)Questions Loom About Bernie Sanders Qualifying for First Democratic Primary
Presidential candidate says he is a Democrat now, but New Hampshire official is coy about whether lifelong independent will make ballot
By Laura Meckler And
Peter Nicholas
Nov. 4, 2015 4:55 p.m. ET
MANCHESTER, N.H.When Sen. Bernie Sanders files paperwork on Thursday to run in New Hampshires presidential primary, a question looms: Is he a Democrat, and if not, can he run in that partys primary?
"Presidential candidate says he is a DEMOCRAT now" Any DNC aides say he isn't?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Nope....has he disavowwed Socialism yet? Nope....
When do I get to hear Bernie say I am now a Democrat?
DianeK
(975 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Can they even legally keep him off the ballot, or is this Gardner guy just being a douche?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Someone..anyone actually could challenge...I know at least 5 states that do require Democratic Registration.....calling yourself a Socialist 6 yrs ago does call it into question.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)I am not making them up
aspirant
(3,533 posts)Game, Set, Match
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Has he said he was a Democrat yet?
aspirant
(3,533 posts)"Presidential candidate says he is a DEMOCRAT now" Any DNC aides say he isn't?
this is not over yet and it may get very interesting..i am not afraid of how it might play out..are you?
aspirant
(3,533 posts)Bernie wins any way it goes
If he is put on the ballot he will win as a DEMOCRAT in NH
If he's not on the ballot then they have literally thrown him out of the party and all hell will break lose.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I wonder if there were any Marxists serving in Congress 6 years ago?
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I think the content of a person's character is more important. But, carry on.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Clearly, those labels have meaning. Why is he avoiding making the great public announcement that he has decided to become a registered Democrat?
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I did the same thing after Democrat after Democrat voted for the IWR.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Unfortunately this hand held device makes it difficult for me to format the quoted excerpts, but I think we get the idea from the links, that Bernie could register as a Dem, but choses not to. And that not only has he previously stated that he is not a Democrat, he clarifies that he is an Independent.
http://blogs.rollcall.com/hawkings/bernie-sanders-2016-proud-non-democrat/
Updated 11:05 a.m. | When Bernard Sanders declared his candidacy for the Democratic presidential nomination, he joined a lengthening roster of gadflies who have run in order to push the party to the left. So will it matter that he is not now, never has been and does not plan to become an actual Democrat?
http://www.pressherald.com/2015/05/03/bernie-sanders-backtracks-on-party-registration/
Announcing his candidacy Thursday outside the U.S. Capitol, the Vermont senator rejected any suggestion that he register as a Democrat. No, Sanders said, Im an independent.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/10/politics/bernie-sanders-democrat-or-independent/
A Democratic National Committee aide says the fact Bernie Sanders isn't a registered Democrat might not be a presidential problem for him
The party defines "bona fide Democrats" as someone "whose record of public service, accomplishment, public writings" comport with the party
Sanders has been an independent since the 1980s, but has caucused with the Democrats since coming to Congress in 1991
Each of these articles were from earlier on this year, but I've not found anything that has change or that Bernie has done to change his party affiliation since these articles were written.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)of New Hampshire says Bernie is a Democrat and the State Party Chairman Ray Buckley will be coming with him to the Sec of State's office, and last month, Buckley released a letter addressed to the Secretary of State explaining that the state party considers Senator Bernie Sanders to be a member of the Democratic Party.
So while primary fervor for your candidate is all good and well, this particular brand express a strong disagreement with the New Hampshire Democratic Party. You do not agree with their position, which gives you much in common with the New Hampshire Republican Party.
That's a wrap, Janey.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Is a Democratic Socialist as sweet as a Socialist Democrat?
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)And from the outrage from Norway, I don't believe those terms are interchangeable.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)If not then if he says he's a Democrat and is running as a Democrat then he's a Democrat.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Trashcanning this turd flamebait.
jfern
(5,204 posts)Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)In presidential primaries, national party rules take precedence over state law, said Thomas Connolly, a spokesman for the BOE. As long as Mr. Sanders espouses party ideals, then actual enrollment is not an issue.
http://observer.com/2015/06/can-bernie-sanders-appear-on-the-democratic-primary-ballot-in-new-york/