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babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 11:02 AM Aug 2012

Romney connects welfare to Obama's 'base'

So he's getting marching orders from Rove. Quelle surprise. Posted with permission.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/08/27/13505852-romney-connects-welfare-to-obamas-base?lite

Romney connects welfare to Obama's 'base'
By Steve Benen
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Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:54 AM EDT


About two weeks ago, Mitt Romney suggested attack ads rejected by "the various fact-checkers" shouldn't be on the air. Last week, confronted with evidence that the various fact-checkers consider his welfare smear against President Obama to be an obvious lie, Romney changed his mind -- if there's scrutiny that points to his dishonesty, the scrutiny must be biased.

In an interview yesterday with USA Today, Romney's defense of the indefensible took another turn.

Romney defends the welfare ads as accurate, accusing Obama of offering state waivers as a political calculation designed to "shore up his base" for the election.


This is a quote in need of some follow-up. Obviously, there's the shameless, transparent lie itself, in which Romney continues to falsely accuse the president of weakening the work requirement in welfare law -- a racially-charged accusation that has literally no basis in reality.

But this new twist is arguably even more loaded -- Romney is not only standing by his smear, he's now saying Obama weakened the work requirement to "shore up his base."

Even if we put aside the blatant dishonesty, think about the underlying argument here: Romney is saying the president's political base wants welfare checks without work requirements.

Between this and Romney's birther "humor," the racial subtexts of Romney's attacks are getting increasingly more difficult to ignore -- a point Chris Matthews forcefully reminded Reince Priebus of this morning.

And speaking of the welfare smear, the Wall Street Journal had a report over the weekend on Steven Law, president of Karl Rove's American Crossroads, who is embracing the same attack.

Swing voters are "resistant" to the idea that Mr. Obama is radical or ideological, although Mr. Law believes that the administration's relaxation of work requirements in federal welfare rules could change that perception. "You can tell they're landing punches," he says of the Romney campaign's recent effort to raise this issue.

But the punches have to be targeted very carefully. Recent focus groups have convinced Mr. Law that the issue is "definitely resonating now with swing voters, including those who were Obama voters in 2008."


Note, the article makes it seem as if the attack is legitimate. Indeed, the Wall Street Journal reported, as if it were fact, that Obama "relax{ed} work requirements in federal welfare rules."

This never happened. We're talking about a racially-charged lie that Romney made up out of whole cloth.

But in our post-truth political landscape, it doesn't matter who's lying; it matters whether liars can get people to believe the lie.
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Romney connects welfare to Obama's 'base' (Original Post) babylonsister Aug 2012 OP
Willard -- the great American liar and fraud Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #1
Yes Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2012 #2
This is the part that matters. qwlauren35 Aug 2012 #3
In my online arguments with Romney supporters.. Cannikin Aug 2012 #4
Romney's a fucking INVETERATE LIAR... His whole body including his Cha Aug 2012 #5
Yep. It's really infuriating and more m$m need to call him on it. nt babylonsister Aug 2012 #6
Who forced many of them to have to go on welfare, Mitt? Spirochete Aug 2012 #7

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
2. Yes
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 11:07 AM
Aug 2012

Obama shoved these waivers- which do NOTHING to "gut" welfare reform work requirements- down the states' throats to "shore up his base" and the states- even those with Republican Governors- just had to do what President Obama demanded!!!



Is THAT what Romney is suggesting?

I can't wait for the debates when President Obama is (hopefully) going to shove this lie back up where it came from!

qwlauren35

(6,148 posts)
3. This is the part that matters.
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 12:30 PM
Aug 2012

"But in our post-truth political landscape, it doesn't matter who's lying; it matters whether liars can get people to believe the lie."

I think it's awkward that there is never an easy comeback to the lie. The explanation always takes more time... or more money.

The only thing you can hope for is that the swing voters don't buy it, and those for whom it sounds "promising" (is that Obama's base?) go out and vote.

The ad is VERY powerful, and racially loaded, and not going to be pulled.

Yelling "lie, lie"... I have to hope that works.

Cannikin

(8,359 posts)
4. In my online arguments with Romney supporters..
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 02:27 PM
Aug 2012

The recurring theme is that ALL people on food stamps, welfare or any other type of assistance are simply lazy and do not want to work. I've also seen the Romneybots pushing the idea that most people on disability could work but choose not to. One of the most frequent ad hominem attacks against me or other Obama supporters is that we are "just afraid we're going to lose our hand outs". Of course, none of them can ever quote any figures on how much abuse there is with those programs. Also, there is absolutely no plan to weed out abuse so the programs can continue. They simply want the programs eliminated.

Sometimes I wonder if the GOP wants this abortion distraction to keep the Christians from noticing how un Christ-like Romney really is.

I think we need to call them out on this and show the lower income people just what they are dealing with on the other side.

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