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pinebox

(5,761 posts)
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:23 PM Nov 2015

If you truly care about the issues, you'll vote for Bernie.

Let's face it, we face a very important election in a year from now. This impacts many peoples lives on an incredibly epic scale and will impact how they live, how they survive and even how they eat (see trade deals). We as a country has reached a tipping point in many ways and how we vote in the upcoming election and its primaries is detrimental to our country.

If you really care about the issues and I mean truly CARE , you'll vote for Bernie.
On the issues, Bernie smokes every other candidate in terms of policy, views and stances.
How?

Let's look at the minimum wage issue. There are many on DU who scream "equality!" but they support a candidate who doesn't support a living wage for minimum wage workers. Isn't that both ironic and hypocritical? Bernie is for a $15/hr minimum wage while Hillary is for $12/hr minimum wage. The cost of living has skyrocketed across America and that $3, while it may not seem like a lot, equated to $6,000 a year. Stop and think about that for a moment.....$6,000 a year is no small figure.

There's people in this country who work their butts off, 40 hours a week, full time, who can't afford to feed themselves or their kids. Think about it, each time you run through a drive-thru to get a cup of coffee, a hamburger, buy something in a retail environment, they're there and with the holidays about to be in full swing, you'll see them more than ever.

Yet, people support a candidate who doesn't support a living wage. Why?

On same sex marriage and gay rights, there's been but one solid force behind it and that's Bernie. One can't deny that Hillary seemed to come out in favor of gay marriage "when the time was convenient" for her. Bernie has been a front runner on LGBT rights for ages. While Bernie was fighting for LGBT rights in the 90s, Hillary was defending DOMA. Do you really buy this BS? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/10/28/hillary-clintons-claim-that-doma-had-to-be-enacted-to-stop-an-anti-gay-marriage-amendment-to-the-u-s-constitution/

Heath care. Bernie wants single player. The world has single payer and their system is superior to ours. I'll vouch for that having lived in Germany among it's citizens for a decade as I was married to a German. There's NO comparison between our system and theirs. Zero. You have questions, ask them right here because my x wife is a RN. Hillary supports Obamacare and while it's a great start, we need better because millions are still uninsured. Let me be frank, "get sick and go die" isn't a philosophy anybody should be subscribing to. With millions still uninsured, that's exactly the health care plan we've sold to many.

Pot. I've never tried it and I don't smoke it but my state, Colorado, has legalized it. Hey guess what! It's worked out for us! We are able to fix our roads and build new schools, without federal money. We're making millions from revenue from the taxation of marijuana. Hillary isn't for legalization and that means we could see my states revenue plummet and lots of people would lose their jobs who currently work in the industry. Hillary has only proposed loosening regulations and NOT legalizing it, which still means we could see DEA agents come in and raid all the pot shops in Colorado which there are more than a thousand of. That doesn't sit well with me and others from my state especially seeing as how we've benefited so much from it being legal.

The middle east. Hillary by all definitions is a hawk when it comes to foreign policy. She is an interventionist by all accounts where as Bernie isn't. The amount of money we spend on the middle east fighting wars and conflicts could be used here at home for things like education, infrastructure, food to feed the homeless and shelter them. It's time we start taking care of our own because we're NOT when so many homeless are vets.

The wavering. Let's be honest, the entire I was against it before I was for it" speaks volumes. Do we really need THAT in the White House? Someone who is constantly wavering on their stances? No, we need a candidate who is rock solid and has integrity. You know EXACTLY what you're getting with Bernie. Look at KXL and TPP as examples, Bernie said "no" from the get go, while Hillary references TPP as "the gold standard" in her book, bringing up how great it is over 40 times. Combined with Iraq, her judgement isn't as sound as Bernie's. There are many instances where this has happened and it;s incredibly obvious.

While Hillary tries to make peoples lives better in her positions, it's the entire example of "close but no cigar".
We've been told things for years but nothing happens, it's time for REAL change and by someone who has the American people in their best interest.

That candidate is Bernie.



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If you truly care about the issues, you'll vote for Bernie. (Original Post) pinebox Nov 2015 OP
Depends on the issues Blue_Adept Nov 2015 #1
Which issues exactly? pinebox Nov 2015 #6
But with Bernie, there's a whole other level of uncertainty Blue_Adept Nov 2015 #13
Ok pinebox Nov 2015 #19
No more wars, we can start there. tecelote Nov 2015 #110
My level of certainty about Hillary is exactly why I will not vote for her in the primary. merrily Nov 2015 #63
very well said. n/t retrowire Nov 2015 #88
Thanks! merrily Nov 2015 #89
...^ that 840high Nov 2015 #108
So pick Hill. Old Codger Nov 2015 #100
No, thank you. merrily Nov 2015 #125
Only a person who has not been listening to Bernie would ask what kind of administration he will JDPriestly Nov 2015 #117
Bernie could put Bozo the Clown in as DNC Chair, and it would still be an improvement over DWS 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #15
You're not exaggerating. Clown College is nothing to laugh at. merrily Nov 2015 #56
Think about it from the other point of view. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #23
Those are tactics, manuevers, methods. They're not issues. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #84
Forgot to mention: His coattails will exist Hillary's will be non-existent. merrily Nov 2015 #92
I cannot support Sanders: I really care about issues I am voting for Hillary lewebley3 Nov 2015 #97
I want Bernie to pick the cabinet and the Supreme Court justices. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #101
Ironically, the Citizens' United case was over a negative film about Hillary. merrily Nov 2015 #127
I do. I know it won't have any Monsanto CEOs eg. Or old Republican war monger appointees. I imagine sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #132
K&R! marym625 Nov 2015 #2
I believe that if you truly care about the issues, you will vote for Hillary. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #3
How do you justify continued warfare? tecelote Nov 2015 #114
I sincerely believe that Hillary Clinton has the better policy position on any potential warfare... MohRokTah Nov 2015 #123
I respect that and disagree. tecelote Nov 2015 #130
On the issues that matter to me, O'Malley is better than Sanders. askew Nov 2015 #4
I like O'Malley pinebox Nov 2015 #7
It isn't about comparing state with federal. askew Nov 2015 #30
It actually is pinebox Nov 2015 #31
I agree. O'Malley is a great fit for everything that matters to me. Koinos Nov 2015 #8
Add veterans issues to that as well. NuclearDem Nov 2015 #46
His plan is incredibly detailed. askew Nov 2015 #57
Sanders and Clinton both have plans on their websites. NuclearDem Nov 2015 #62
Maybe maybe not Old Codger Nov 2015 #104
I've been following O'Malley for years and he is better on the issues I outlined. askew Nov 2015 #129
I'm new here and ... Jharr827 Nov 2015 #5
Sure I can answer that and welcometo DU! pinebox Nov 2015 #11
Awesome thank you Jharr827 Nov 2015 #17
It is pinebox Nov 2015 #20
Thank you Jharr827 Nov 2015 #24
He has explained often how they will be paid for. merrily Nov 2015 #72
If you are still deciding ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #98
Yes Jharr827 Nov 2015 #121
Or do have help Marty McGraw Nov 2015 #122
Thanks Jharr827 Nov 2015 #135
There is a world of difference between the two candidate. Autumn Nov 2015 #9
I'm leaning that way Jharr827 Nov 2015 #21
Welcome to DU. There is a lot of information on Bernie here in our group. Autumn Nov 2015 #32
K&R! n/t Catherina Nov 2015 #10
OH thank you kind person jehop61 Nov 2015 #12
You're quite welcome pinebox Nov 2015 #22
Uhm... kenfrequed Nov 2015 #47
Can you tell us why you would vote for Hillary. Dawgs Nov 2015 #59
I'm a realist jehop61 Nov 2015 #102
Please make our killing of innocent people in the name of profit more important. tecelote Nov 2015 #116
I agree jehop61 Nov 2015 #126
"The republicans will be a disaster in foreign affairs." tecelote Nov 2015 #128
Do you think Hillary has a better chance of winning than Bernie? Dawgs Nov 2015 #124
No, O'Malley has it on the issues, elleng Nov 2015 #14
I like him pinebox Nov 2015 #26
O'Malley's platforms expand upon what he did as Governor/Mayor. askew Nov 2015 #34
What you have to remember though pinebox Nov 2015 #39
Well, Bernie is 20 years older than O'Malley. askew Nov 2015 #51
Yep, O'Malley is the one with the detailed plans. askew Nov 2015 #35
Sanders has gotten a ton done too pinebox Nov 2015 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #85
^^^^this^^^^ one_voice Nov 2015 #133
GREAT to hear, one_voice, elleng Nov 2015 #136
Big K&R nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #16
I truly care about the issues. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #18
How do you think pinebox Nov 2015 #25
"Hillary will advance any issue should she be elected, be honest." NCTraveler Nov 2015 #27
Well explain then pinebox Nov 2015 #29
Just so we are clear, because this is pure gold, this is one of the "issues?" nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #33
What I asked is how you think Hillary will get anything done pinebox Nov 2015 #40
Please read your own post again. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #41
I did but read this please pinebox Nov 2015 #43
You believe this rw nut job is a campaign "issue?" This is getting to be too much. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #45
Nice bandwagon kenfrequed Nov 2015 #52
John Lewis rides on no bandwagon. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #61
Uh... kenfrequed Nov 2015 #67
"Argue on the issues and on policy. In both cases Bernie is the superior pick." NCTraveler Nov 2015 #71
You brought up John Lewis kenfrequed Nov 2015 #75
Issues are important to you and immediately after, you snidely bring up Vera Wang and outfits? Sheepshank Nov 2015 #78
Right kenfrequed Nov 2015 #81
So John Lewis is just like a dress designer and has no standing on issues? Got it. Sheepshank Nov 2015 #87
Uhm... kenfrequed Nov 2015 #90
Forget it, you obviously can't answer my question. pinebox Nov 2015 #53
It was a direct answer to your question. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #64
You're spinning this way to hard dude pinebox Nov 2015 #70
Pinebox - Vince Foster? Important issue. Networking? What is that. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #73
You are still missing the point pinebox Nov 2015 #93
Thanks for the super fucking obnoxious post. My phone loved Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #86
You are very welcome. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #91
Can you trim your post please pinebox Nov 2015 #94
It is an extremely important list of endorsements and is exactly the info you wanted. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #96
Just trim it pinebox Nov 2015 #103
You do understand how small that post is in the big scheme of things? NCTraveler Nov 2015 #109
. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #137
Endorsers, a bunch of whom, actually write legislation. Do you think that might be ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #115
Perfect response. Now drop the mic and walk slowly off the stage ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #111
Hmmmmm at best a few thousand votes. Now count the number of libs that willvotesdem Nov 2015 #131
Strongly disagree. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #134
This subthread is just an attempt to divert from your excellent OP. kristopher Nov 2015 #113
Maybe we should just let the GOPU choose our nominee DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #38
They now are acting as if they didn't post that. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #44
Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #49
I couldn't make this up. They have now gone to Vince Foster as a serious issue. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #74
It is what it is... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #76
I'm sorry kenfrequed Nov 2015 #48
Wednesday? NCTraveler Nov 2015 #50
What about it? kenfrequed Nov 2015 #55
Kickin' Faux pas Nov 2015 #28
No comparison ibegurpard Nov 2015 #36
The Metric System is my issue nt firebrand80 Nov 2015 #37
Hair is my single issue. Hence, Feel the Bern is my first choice and Feel the Chafe is my second. merrily Nov 2015 #66
Bernie tackles the BIG issues. senz Nov 2015 #77
Let's not harrangue them too much HassleCat Nov 2015 #54
"Good enough" for millions to still rely on Govt assistance for food pinebox Nov 2015 #60
Under a Sanders presidency, their situations would change. senz Nov 2015 #79
I will vote for the candidate most qualified, I think Clinton is most qualified out of all Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #58
More than O'Malley? Dawgs Nov 2015 #65
Yes, he does not have her foreign affairs experience. He would be my second choice. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #68
ok. n/t zappaman Nov 2015 #69
thing is, it's not JUST the fact that he's running to support the issues, instead of MisterP Nov 2015 #80
How is this in any way appropriate? Bleacher Creature Nov 2015 #82
K&R..... daleanime Nov 2015 #83
I truly care about the issues that I judge of importance to me, and ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #95
Which issues are those? pinebox Nov 2015 #105
Why? So you can tell me the Good News about Sanders? No! Thanks ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #118
Ok so you don't want to discuss policies pinebox Nov 2015 #119
No ... I don't need you telling me that Bernie is better on policy than O'Malley ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #120
That is an awful lot or words to say no true Scot would vote mythology Nov 2015 #99
Sure BUT pinebox Nov 2015 #106
rightwingers don't have a monopoly on voting against their own self-interests stupidicus Nov 2015 #107
Thank you! pinebox Nov 2015 #112
If you care whether a Democrat is our next MineralMan Nov 2015 #138

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
1. Depends on the issues
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:25 PM
Nov 2015

Honestly, I like Bernie on a lot of his positions. But I don't know what kind of cabinet he'd build, who he'd put in place in the DNC and I really don't know that he'll help downticket with coattails for other places throughout the country to bring in more Democrats across the board - which is what we really need more than anything else.

I don't see him as a visionary. He's got solid policy proposals but I don't see how he builds a structure politically to move it forward should he take higher office.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
6. Which issues exactly?
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:32 PM
Nov 2015

Nobody knows what a cabinet will look like right from anybody or who anybody would put in place to lead the DNC but count onit someone who's progressive on both accounts as far as Bernie is concerned.

What we really need isn't more dems but rather more indy's. We need a good swash of America represented and that means bringing in indy libs under the umbrella.

As far as how he builds a structure politically, there's common issues that we can work together on with people across the aisle, NSA, Patriot Act (which the tea party hates) and other things, especially where vet issues are concerned.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
13. But with Bernie, there's a whole other level of uncertainty
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:38 PM
Nov 2015

I'm not playing the "he's no Democrat" game, but there is that issue that comes into it of what kind of administration he'd build, what party "loyalty" there is and how it would come together. Yes, he's caucused with the party for decades. But that's different than actually governing.

And as an outsider/insider, that's going to dramatically impact how he gets things done in both positive and negative ways.

Those are the issues that concern me with him that makes me very wary of him.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
19. Ok
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:51 PM
Nov 2015

but "party loyalty" to me is completely irrelevant. What matters to me is the issues, not the party. Last thing we need is a blue dog in a cabinet advocating we bomb Iran.

Keep in mind that Hillary has never governed either but we know where she stands on foreign policy. It certainly isn't where I stand. No more wars, we can start there.

I don't see Hillary getting a damn thing done as POTUS, it will be one huge Benghazi hearing and some in the Republican party are already calling for impeachment the very first say should she win.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
63. My level of certainty about Hillary is exactly why I will not vote for her in the primary.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:38 PM
Nov 2015

If Bernie had the good judgment to be on the right side of history since at least his college days, and the prescience to know invading Iraq would de-stabilize the entire Middle East, I have no reason to assume he'd pick a crazy cabinet.

Obama was a US Senator for under two years when he began campaigning for President. (Some might say longer.) Yet, Democrats did not challenge his ability to govern.

Bernie did an outstanding job at Mayor of Burlingon.

Moreover, he got more done in Congress than Hillary.

If you just even search only DU, you will find ample evidence for every one of my statements in this post.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
100. So pick Hill.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:10 PM
Nov 2015

and count on another Wall street cabinet... you bet that is the way to go.. more of the same old same old..

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
117. Only a person who has not been listening to Bernie would ask what kind of administration he will
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:25 PM
Nov 2015

build. It will be a Democratic administration.

Look at his record in Burlington. Look at his record in Vermont. He has been re-elected again and again because he is a good manager and looks out for his constituents.

I suggest that anyone who is concerned about how Bernie will govern look at his records and listen to his speeches.

These "concerns" are unwarranted.

Those who have them should take some time and listen to Bernie and read about his record.

The website, "Feel the Bern" is a good place to start.

Youtube has a lot of videos.

It is unfortunate that people are concerned about Bernie. The only reason to be concerned about him is lack of information, more rudely put, ignorance.

Sorry to be offensive, but it's just a matter of informing oneself about Bernie at the source.

Lots of Bernie information out there.

Bernie has been in Congress since at least 1992. He knows how laws are made, how stuff gets done in D.C. Hillary has very little experience in any legislature, much less Congress.

As I mentioned, Bernie was the mayor of Burlington, Vt. He must have done a good job. I think he was re-elected three times.

Hillary has never held an executive office, neither as a mayor or a governor or even the CEO of a company that was more than mostly prestigious if at all.

We should be worried about whether Hillary has the experience and capacity to be president, not about Bernie. Bernie has proved himself in office. Hillary -- not so much.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
15. Bernie could put Bozo the Clown in as DNC Chair, and it would still be an improvement over DWS
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:41 PM
Nov 2015

Of course I'm exaggerating, but there are several really decent Democrats already serving as
co-chairs of DNC, who have spoken out forcefully against DWS's rigging the debates, and who
would make excellent replacements for Ms. Schultz.

As for down-ticket coat tails one needs look no further than Bernie's 25% GOP voters who
support him in Vermont, because they've seen him up close and know him to be a man of his
word, a rarity these days inside the Beltway. Add to that how Bernie is pulling in record numbers
of Independents, Greens, et. al. INTO the Democratic party as we speak, re-registering as
Democratic, so they can vote for him in the Primaries.

These ^ are important considerations that need to be included when considering who to vote
for, and who will fare better in the GE. Hell, Bernie (with scant mention in M$M) already polls
stronger agains any of the GOP front-runners.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
56. You're not exaggerating. Clown College is nothing to laugh at.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:32 PM
Nov 2015

Presumably, Bozo would have a sense of humor and some people skills. If so, that would be an improvement over DWS right there.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
23. Think about it from the other point of view.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:54 PM
Nov 2015

We KNOW what kind of cabinet HRC would build and it would be more of the revolving door of Wall Streeters and war hawks who won't be in favor of the best interests of the average person.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
84. Those are tactics, manuevers, methods. They're not issues.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:24 PM
Nov 2015

Bernies stance on issues will guide his cabinet formation in the same way Obama's positions built his team.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
92. Forgot to mention: His coattails will exist Hillary's will be non-existent.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:41 PM
Nov 2015

FDR had 40 years worth of coattails. Bill Clinton, not so much. Hillary's coattails will be even scarcer than her husband's.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
101. I want Bernie to pick the cabinet and the Supreme Court justices.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:10 PM
Nov 2015

For me, a vote for Hillary is a vote for Citizens United.

I want a Democrat who does not owe the wealthy and the corporations any more than he owes me.

When you take money from wealthy people or institutions or corporations, you incur a social debt. Hillary owes and owes and owes.

She may have a vision, but it certainly is not one that will be good for me or the majority of Americans who are much like me.

Hillary's vision is rear-view-mirror oriented. She will pick the same old, same old kinds fof people for her cabinet and the courts.

Bernie's vision is what we need.

Bernie dares to look forward. He dares to see beyond the commonplace.

Bernie is the one who will inspire a new generation of Americans to take their place in Congress and our government. Hillary is just the past regurgitated.

If we do not lead into the future, who will?

Bernie is the only candidate running who has a vision of the future for America. That goes for both parties.

Feel the Bern!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
127. Ironically, the Citizens' United case was over a negative film about Hillary.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:59 PM
Nov 2015

Certainly has not spurred her to turn her back on the holding of that case, though.

"After me, no more money in politics." Yeah, riiiiight.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
132. I do. I know it won't have any Monsanto CEOs eg. Or old Republican war monger appointees. I imagine
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:41 PM
Nov 2015

he would remove old Bush loyalist, Clapper and replace him right away which should have been done at least when he lied outright to Congress.

One of the main reasons I support him is BECAUSE I know his cabinet won't resemble Bush's in any way.

Bernie will hugely impact the election of real Progressives not usually supported by the DNC.

Because all of his supporters will be voting for people who support his policies. Already working on that around the country.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
3. I believe that if you truly care about the issues, you will vote for Hillary.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:30 PM
Nov 2015

You have a right to your opinions about the issues, and I have a right to mine.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
114. How do you justify continued warfare?
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:21 PM
Nov 2015

Hillary is a hawk and will not back away from killing for profit. Makes me sick.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
123. I sincerely believe that Hillary Clinton has the better policy position on any potential warfare...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:54 PM
Nov 2015

than Sanders.

You are free to believe how you choose about the issues, as am I.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
130. I respect that and disagree.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:10 PM
Nov 2015

My fear with Hillary is that she has more important things to do.

Our war for profit is killing thousands of innocent people and few seem to care.

My fear with Hillary is that she will not diverge from our current course. More will die, more profits will roll in and she'll keep taking the donations. Rinse and repeat.

askew

(1,464 posts)
4. On the issues that matter to me, O'Malley is better than Sanders.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:32 PM
Nov 2015

And he has the track record to back up his platforms:

O'Malley is better on all of the following:
Immigration
Latin America
Refugee Issues
Death Penalty
Gun Control
Climate Control

His college plan is better than Sanders as is his criminal justice reform plan.

There are definitely some issues that Sanders is better on, but for the issues most important to me, O'Malley is better.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
7. I like O'Malley
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:35 PM
Nov 2015

but I'm not sure I'd say his EDU plan is better. At this point, I think he's a definite VP contender.
The problem for him is exposure and with only 6 debates, it's killing his campaign.
I would disagree though that he's better. You can't really compare state issues with federal. It's apples and oranges.

askew

(1,464 posts)
30. It isn't about comparing state with federal.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:05 PM
Nov 2015

It's looking at policy platforms and how they match up with their past actions. O'Malley's platforms are better for issues I listed in my previous post.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
31. It actually is
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:06 PM
Nov 2015

O'Malley got a lot done but he's unfamiliar with the political environment on a federal level.
He's a dark horse though and he has no where else to go but upward. As I said, I like the guy!

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
46. Add veterans issues to that as well.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:21 PM
Nov 2015

The platform he just rolled out is the most comprehensive I've seen out of all the candidates running.

askew

(1,464 posts)
57. His plan is incredibly detailed.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:32 PM
Nov 2015

I really like that he is building on the successes he put in place in Maryland and he has the right ideas with how to track issues so things don't get lost in the bureaucracy at VA.

I haven't looked at Sanders' plan yet though. I assume Hillary hasn't released one yet because she has released almost no plans yet.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
62. Sanders and Clinton both have plans on their websites.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:37 PM
Nov 2015

And they'd both be really good if they were combined into one plan.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
104. Maybe maybe not
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:12 PM
Nov 2015

Haven't seen enough on him to decide that one, at this time Bernie is my man but would vote for O"Malley before Hill all day long

askew

(1,464 posts)
129. I've been following O'Malley for years and he is better on the issues I outlined.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:06 PM
Nov 2015

But, I'd take Bernie over Hillary any day as well.

Jharr827

(32 posts)
5. I'm new here and ...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:32 PM
Nov 2015

Still deciding who to vote for. I like a lot of his policies like free college, single payer etc. but my question is (and not being rude at all) how will they be paid for? Just trying to learn more

Jharr827

(32 posts)
17. Awesome thank you
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:45 PM
Nov 2015

I have a ten year old and a lot of his policies will help make his future better! Now my question is is it doable with a republican congress and senate? I'm new to being interested in politics ( I know I should've been a long time ago ) so maybe I'm wrong but does he need them to get this done?

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
20. It is
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:53 PM
Nov 2015

to an extent but the more we pick up in mid terms, the better.
The problem is that the Republican see things like student loans as revenue and that is a biggie. It will be tough for any Dem POTUS and will take some wrangling.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
72. He has explained often how they will be paid for.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:45 PM
Nov 2015

In general: a more fair tax system, where the rich pay their fair share.

Free college (only public institutions, mind you--not free ivy League), a tiny per transaction tax on "Wall Street" transactions - purchases and sales of stocks, bonds and other securities.

Single payer is much cheaper than the system we have now. Under the system we have now, the US pays the most per patient in the world, including nations like England and Canada. Yet, it's health outcomes are among the worst in the world.

Critically important: If Bernie promises something, you can take it to the bank that he will do his damnedest to make it happen. If Hillary promises something, you can take it to the bank that she thinks it will get her votes. What she does after she is elected, esp. if she gets a second term, is anybody's guess. Her husband wrought a lot of havoc with the bills his White House lobbied hard for during his second term. With the popularity of Warren and Sanders, her positions have changed dramatically--yet she doesn't go as far as Sanders. For example, more "affordable" higher education versus free tuition to public institutions of higher learning; $12 minimum wage vs. $15, etc. Corporate edia pretends their positions are now identical, except that Bernie got there much sooner than she, but that's a lie.

Try going to bernie's official campaign website and reading what he says about the issues; search DU, esp. the Bernie Sanders Group, etc. Answers to your questions exist.

Jharr827

(32 posts)
121. Yes
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:36 PM
Nov 2015

Someone already directed me there thanks though! I found out a lot of stuff I didn't know about him. Appreciated

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
22. You're quite welcome
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:54 PM
Nov 2015

but look above, I already had an impact on an undecided voter XD
Pretty awesome, eh?

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
47. Uhm...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:24 PM
Nov 2015

Isn't that what everyone does here all the time?

I mean, the OP gave reasons why that is what they support. Were you just going to crap on it because you disagree? Or were you planning on putting up some supporting reasons?

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
59. Can you tell us why you would vote for Hillary.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:34 PM
Nov 2015

Not trying to be a dick. I'm genuinely curious.

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
102. I'm a realist
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:12 PM
Nov 2015

I love Bernie's ideas and am glad he's posing the right questions, but, his ideas need a complient Congress or the cooperation of big business. Not going to happen. Hillary is a Democrat who will mostly do what I think is right and will appoint the best people to the Supreme Court. We absolutely cannot afford for the republicans to succeed in 2016.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
116. Please make our killing of innocent people in the name of profit more important.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:24 PM
Nov 2015

"Hillary is a Democrat who will mostly do what I think is right..."

We need to end our wars. Isn't that the right thing to do?

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
126. I agree
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:58 PM
Nov 2015

Speaking for my two sons and a grandson who served and the futures of my 19 grandchildren and four greatgrandchildren, I am very concerned about war. The republicans will be a disaster in foreign affairs. I'm not naive, but think Hillary has the best foreign policy experience. As I said I am a realist.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
128. "The republicans will be a disaster in foreign affairs."
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:05 PM
Nov 2015

A republican winning would be bad for the whole world, no doubt.

Hillary has a lot going for her. I'll proudly vote for her if Bernie loses. But I'll support the most peace loving candidate possible first.

War for profit is a sin and it's being waged in our name. We need to stop the killing.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
124. Do you think Hillary has a better chance of winning than Bernie?
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:55 PM
Nov 2015

She has very high unfavorables and is the status-quo establishment candidate running at a time when most Americans are down on politics.

I also consider my realist, and I think there's a really good chance that she will lose in the GE.

elleng

(130,906 posts)
14. No, O'Malley has it on the issues,
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:40 PM
Nov 2015
 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
26. I like him
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:58 PM
Nov 2015

but on many of these, Bernie has been for them for years.
As I said above, Martin is vying for a VP spot at this time, his campaign is being killed by lack of exposure.

On guns, I myself am a gun owner and I prefer Bernie's position. There's Bears and Mountain Lions where I live. Last thing you want to see is THAT coming at you. No thank you lol

askew

(1,464 posts)
34. O'Malley's platforms expand upon what he did as Governor/Mayor.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:10 PM
Nov 2015

He's been on these issues for just as long as Sanders. And there is less of a difference between O'Malley's past rhetoric/record on immigration than for Sanders which matters to me.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
39. What you have to remember though
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:14 PM
Nov 2015

is that he will have to work with Republicans on many things.
As far as on the issues just about as long as Sanders, not so fast.
'
O'Malley served as the Mayor of Baltimore from 1999 to 2007 and was a Baltimore City Councilor from 1991 to 1999.
Bernie As an independent, he was elected mayor of Burlington, Vermont's most populous city, in 1981. Before that In 1963, he participated in the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom, best known as the event where Martin Luther King gave his "I Have a Dream" speech.

That's some serious year spread.

In the end, should either be elected, we'd be good to go.

askew

(1,464 posts)
51. Well, Bernie is 20 years older than O'Malley.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:30 PM
Nov 2015

But, both have held there views for a long time (except for Bernie and immigration which is a recent change for him). Neither gets credit over the other.

And these progressive policies weren't easy just because Maryland was a blue state. Repealing the death penalty was something that failed multiple times and finally succeeded due to O'Malley's relentlessness on the issue. Bernie has the right policy views but doesn't have a lot to show for it even when Dems controlled Congress and the WH. That says something to me.

askew

(1,464 posts)
35. Yep, O'Malley is the one with the detailed plans.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:11 PM
Nov 2015

He is also the one who has gotten things done.

Two key reasons why I am backing him.

Response to elleng (Reply #14)

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
133. ^^^^this^^^^
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:45 PM
Nov 2015

is where I am. O'Malley is my candidate.

DU is just like everywhere else. It's like we have 2 people running. That's fine here, most people have their minds made up--though I see you changed one earlier but the media is doing a piss poor job. And DWS must be scared of something limiting the debates.

Saw my brother today--he's an over the road truck driver--asked him what he thought. Originally he was hoping Biden would jump in when he didn't he looked into O'Malley; he was somewhat familiar with him. O'M is his choice right now.



 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
18. I truly care about the issues.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:48 PM
Nov 2015

Here is the difference. I also truly care about the people these issues effect. That is why I am supporting Hillary. It is my firm belief that Clinton and O'Malley are the only two who can advance the issues we care so deeply about. Pinebox, it as about so much more than issues. Always has been always will be.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
25. How do you think
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:56 PM
Nov 2015

Hillary will advance any issue should she be elected, be honest. Republicans are already saying they'll impeach her the first day she's elected. Do you honestly think Republicans will work her? No chance. Martin, I like the guy, he's genuine but this 6 debates thing is absolutely killing his campaign.

No, it's ONLY about the issues. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
27. "Hillary will advance any issue should she be elected, be honest."
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:02 PM
Nov 2015

I would not entertain a conversation with anyone who starts it out in this manner. "Be honest"

I'm no longer going "small" or "negative" as you have done right out of the box. Thank you and I honestly hope you have a wonderful day.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
41. Please read your own post again.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:16 PM
Nov 2015

Do you find some fool in SC, and his right wing hatred for Clinton, to be an "issues" as you so described?

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
43. I did but read this please
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:19 PM
Nov 2015
It is my firm belief that Clinton and O'Malley are the only two who can advance the issues we care so deeply about.


How do you think Hillary will get anything done if she's POTUS considering how much Republicans hate her?
That's what I asked you.

O'Malley can however.
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
45. You believe this rw nut job is a campaign "issue?" This is getting to be too much.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:20 PM
Nov 2015

Here is how Clinton is going to do it. She understands the importance of networking.

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Alex Padilla, 32nd Secretary of State of California[169]
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John L. Martin, ME Rep.[12]
Armando Martinez, TX Rep.[199]
W. Ken Martinez, NM Rep.[189]
Mary Mascher, IA Rep.[192]
Liz Mathis, IA Sen.[236]
John W. Matthews, Jr., SC Sen.[237]
Jennifer McClellan, VA Del.[216][238]
Matt McCoy, IA Sen.[239]
Jeannie McDaniel, OK Rep.[12]
A. Donald McEachin, VA Sen.[216]
Delores McQuinn, VA Del.[216]
Larry Miller, TN Rep.[197]
Thomas V. Miller, Jr., 85th MD Sen. Pres.[181]
Ina Minjarez, TX Rep.[199]
Bo Mitchell, TN Rep.[197]
Harold Mitchell, SC Rep.[240]
Joe Moody, TX Rep.[199]
Matt Moonen, ME Rep.[12]
Rena Moran, MN Rep.[201]
Joseph Morelle, NY Ass. Maj. Leader[153]
Howard Mosby, GA Rep.[186]
Jared Moskowitz, FL Rep.[241]
Sergio Muñoz, Jr., TX Rep.[199]
Erin Murphy, MN Rep.[193]
Laura Murphy, IL Sen.[208]
Elliott Naishtat, TX Rep.[199]
Stacey Newman, MO Rep.[242]
Alfonso "Poncho" Nevárez, TX Rep.[199]
Sharon Nordgren, NH Rep.[192]
Jo Oldson, IA Rep.[224]
René Oliveira, TX Rep.[199]
Marc R. Pacheco, MA Sen.[243]
Sandy Pappas, MN Sen.[201]
Antonio Parkinson, TN Rep.[197]
N. Nick Perry, NY Ass.[153]
Janet Petersen, IA Sen.[224]
Brittany Pettersen, CO Rep.[12]
Debbie Phillips, OH Rep.[225]
David Pierce, NH Sen.[164]
Freddie Powell Sims, GA Sen.[186]
Mandy Powers Norrell, SC Rep.[217]
Vincent Prieto, 170th NJ Gen. Ass. Speaker[141]
Philip Ramos, NY Ass.[153]
Nikki Randall, GA Rep.[186]
Richard Raymond, TX Rep.[244]
Ann Rest, MN Sen.[201]
Kirill Reznik, MD Del.[222]
Annette Robinson, NY Ass.[153]
Eddie Rodriguez, TX Rep.[199]
José R. Rodríguez, TX Sen.[199]
Justin Rodriguez, TX Rep.[199]
Ramon Romero, Jr., TX Rep.[199]
Toni Rose, TX Rep.[199]
Stan Rosenberg, 93rd MA Sen. Pres.[174]
Su Ryden, CO Rep.[207]
Paul Sarlo, NJ Sen.[141]
Dan Schoen, MN Rep.[201]
John Scott, SC Sen.[240]
Katie Seiben, MN Sen.[201]
Daun Sessoms Hester, VA Del.[176]
Johnny Shaw, TN Rep.[197]
Kathy Sheran, MN Sen.[201]
Jo Anne Simon, NY Ass.[205]
Linda Slocum, MN Rep.[201]
Darren Soto, FL Sen.[212]
Donna Soucy, NH Sen.[245]
John Sparks, OK Sen. Min. Leader[12]
Kent Smith, OH Rep.[206]
Calvin Smyre, GA Rep.[186]
Lionell Spruill, VA Del.[176]
Heather Steans, IL Sen.[208]
Andrea Stewart-Cousins, NY Sen. Min. Leader[246]
Sally Stutsman, IA Rep.[224]
Shavonda Sumter, NJ Gen. Ass.[141]
Scott Surovell, VA Del.[176]
Stephen M. Sweeney, NJ Sen. Pres.[141]
Horacena Tate, GA Sen.[186]
Lena Taylor, WI Sen.[247]
Phyllis Thede, IA Rep.[192]
Paul Thissen, MN House Min. Leader[193]
Erica Thomas, GA Rep.[186]
Curt Thompson, GA Sen.[248]
Joe Towns, TN Rep.[197]
Clarke Tucker, AR Rep.[249]
Johnnie Turner, TN Rep.[197]
Jessie Ulibarri, CO Sen.[12]
Carlos Uresti, TX Sen.[250]
Linda Valentino, ME Sen.[12]
Emily Virgin, OK Rep.[12]
Hubert Vo, TX Rep.[199]
Dana Wachs, WI Ass.[251]
Mary Jane Wallner, NH House Maj. Leader[164]
Kirk Watson, TX Sen.[199]
David Watters, NH Sen.[252]
Loretta Weinberg, NJ Sen. Maj. Leader[141]
Joan Welsh, ME Rep.[12]
Royce West, TX Sen.[199]
Angela Williams, CO Rep.[12]
Jeff Woodburn, NH Sen. Min. Leader[253]
Keith L.T. Wright, NY Ass.[205]
Gene Wu, TX Rep.[199]
George Young, OK Rep.[12]
Cheryl Youakim, MN Rep.[201]

Former

Janet Adams, former IA Rep.[224]
Tom Ammiano, CA Ass. (2008–14)[254]
Staci Appel, IA Sen. (2007–11)[192]
Polly Baca, CO Sen. (1974–79)[207]
Laura Boyd, OK Sen. (1993–98)[12]
Emily Cain, ME Sen. (2012–14)[198]
Jason Carter, GA Sen. (2010–5) and grandson of Jimmy Carter[186]
Wendy Davis, TX Sen. (2009–15)[255]
Delia Garcia, KS Rep. (2005–10)[256]
Peggy Gilmour, former NH Sen.[164]
Sherwood Guernsey, former MA Rep.[257]
Johnie Hammond, former IA Sen.[224]
Mary Louise Hancock, former NH Sen.[164]
Tracy Heard, OH House Maj. Leader (2009–11)[258]
LeRoy J. Jones, Jr., NJ Gen. Ass. (1994–2000)[141]
Sidney Kramer, MD Sen. (1978–86)[222]
Sylvia Larsen, NH Senate Pres. (2006–10)[164]
I. S. Leevy Johnson, SC Rep. (1971-80)[259]
Sheila Leslie, NV Sen. (2010–2)[260]
Ricia McMahon, former NH Rep.[164]
Libby Mitchell, ME Senate President (2008–10)[12]
Joe Neal, NV Sen. (1972–2004)[261]
Terie Norelli, NH House Speaker (2006–10; 12-4)[164]
Fabian Núñez, 65th CA Ass. Speaker (2004–08)[137]
Tyler Olson, IA Rep. (2007–15)[192]
Kay Patterson, SC Sen. (1985-2008)[262]
Deb Reynolds, former NH Sen.[164]
Nan Rich, FL Sen. Min. Leader (2010–2012)[263]
Carol Ronen, IL Sen. (2000-8)[208]
Bakari Sellers, SC Rep. (2006–14) [264]
Chris Spirou, former NH Rep.[265]
Nina Turner, OH Sen. (2008–14)[266]
Leticia Van de Putte, TX Sen. (1999–2015)[250]
Antonio Villaraigosa, 63rd CA Ass. Speaker (1998–2000)[267]
McKinley Washington, Jr., SC Sen. (1990–2000)[268]
Wilma Webb, CO Rep. (1980–93)[207]
Katie Wheeler, former NH Sen.[164]
Wes Whitead, IA Rep. (2003–11)[192]
Gretchen Whitmer, former MI Sen. Min. Leader[102]
Mayors and county executives
Current

Steve Adler, Mayor of Austin, Texas[269]
Tom Barrett, 44th Mayor of Milwaukee[269]
Bill Bell, Mayor of Durham, North Carolina[270]
William A. Bell, 28th Mayor of Birmingham, Alabama[270]
Steve Bellone, 8th Suffolk County, New York Executive[153]
Stephen K. Benjamin, 36th Mayor of Columbia, South Carolina[269]
Bill de Blasio, 109th Mayor of New York City[269]
Chris Bollwage, Mayor of Elizabeth, New Jersey[269]
David A. Bowers, Mayor of Roanoke, Virginia[269]
Noam Bramson, Mayor of New Rochelle, New York[269]
Gale Brewer, 27th New York County, New York (Manhattan) President[153]
Aja Brown, 18th Mayor of Compton, California[270]
Byron Brown, 62nd Mayor of Buffalo, New York[270]
Bob Buckhorn, 56th Mayor of Tampa, Florida[269]
Roy D. Buol, Mayor of Dubuque, Iowa[269]
Kirk Caldwell, 14th Mayor of Honolulu[269]
Chris Coleman, 54th Mayor of St. Paul, Minnesota[269]
David Coulter, Mayor of Ferndale, Michigan[269]
John Cranley, 69th Mayor of Cincinnati[269]
Rubén Díaz, Jr., 13th Bronx County, New York President[153]
Kimberly Driscoll, 50th Mayor of Salem, Massachusetts[269]
Mike Duggan, 75th Mayor of Detroit[269]
Johnny DuPree, Mayor of Hattiesburg, Mississippi[270]
Buddy Dyer, 32nd Mayor of Orlando[271]
Jorge Elorza, 38th Mayor of Providence[269]
Rahm Emanuel, 55th Mayor of Chicago[269]
William D. Euille, Mayor of Hattiesburg, Mississippi[270]
Bill Finch, 53rd Mayor of Bridgeport, Connecticut[269]
Rich Fitzgerald, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania Executive[272]
Johnny Ford, Mayor of Tuskegee, Alabama[270]
Paul D. Fraim, Mayor of Hampton, Virginia[176]
Steven Fulop, 49th Mayor of Jersey City[269]
Eric Garcetti, 42nd Mayor of Los Angeles[273]
Robert Garcia, 28th Mayor of Long Beach, California[269]
Javier Gonzales, 42nd Mayor of Santa Fe, New Mexico[269]
Toni Harp, 50th Mayor of New Haven, Connecticut[270]
Mike Hein, 1st Ulster County, New York Executive[153]
John Hollar, Mayor of Montpelier, Vermont[269]
Betsy Hodges, 47th Mayor of Minneapolis[269]
Sly James, 54th Mayor of Kansas City, Missouri[270]
Dwight Jones, 79th Mayor of Richmond, Virginia[176]
Melinda Katz, 19th Queens County, New York President[153]
Rick Kriseman, Mayor of St. Petersburg, Florida[269]
Edwin M. Lee, 43rd Mayor of San Francisco[269]
Sam Liccardo, 65th Mayor of San Jose[269]
Ben McAdams, Mayor of Salt Lake County, Utah[269]
Thomas McDermott, Jr., 20th Hammond, Indiana[269]
Kim McMillan, Mayor of Clarksville, Tennessee[269]
María Meléndez, 135th Mayor of Ponce, Puerto Rico[269]
Stephanie Miner, 53rd Mayor of Syracuse, New York[269]
Alex B. Morse, Mayor of Holyoke, Massachusetts[257]
Svante Myrick, Mayor of Ithaca, New York[270]
Michael Nutter, 124th Mayor of Philadelphia[270]
Annise Parker, 61st Mayor of Houston[269]
William Peduto, 60th Mayor of Pittsburgh[269]
Donald Pilon, Mayor of Saco, Maine[269]
Mark Poloncarz, 8th Erie County, New York Executive[153]
Michael D. Quill, Sr., Mayor of Auburn, New York[269]
Terence Roberts, Mayor of Anderson, South Carolina[270]
Kasim Reed, 59th Mayor of Atlanta, Georgia[274]
Joseph P. Riley, Jr., 60th Mayor of Charleston, South Carolina[269]
Dan Rivera, Mayor of Lawrence, Massachusetts[269]
Thomas Roach, Mayor of White Plains, New York[269]
Brad Sellers, Mayor of Warrensville Heights, Ohio[270]
Kathy Sheehan, 75th Mayor of Albany, New York[153]
Joseph Sinnott, 47th Mayor of Erie, Pennsylvania[269]
Francis Slay, 45th Mayor of St. Louis[269]
Mike Spano, Mayor of Yonkers, New York[269]
Greg Stanton, 59th Mayor of Phoenix[269]
Mark Stodola, Mayor of Little Rock, Arkansas[269]
Elizabeth Tisdahl, Mayor of Evanston, Illinois[208]
Dayne Walling, 92nd Mayor of Flint, Michigan[269]
Lovely A. Warren, 67th Mayor of Rochester[270]
Setti Warren, Mayor of Newton, Massachusetts[270]
Miro Weinberger, Mayor of Burlington, Vermont[269]
A C Wharton, 63rd Mayor of Memphis[269]
Dennis P. Williams, 55th Mayor of Wilmington, Delaware[275]
Nan Whaley, Mayor of Dayton, Ohio[269]
Carmen Yulín Cruz, Mayor of San Juan, Puerto Rico[269]

Former

Kay Barnes, 52nd Mayor of Kansas City, Missouri (1999–2007)[276]
Martin Chávez, 26th & 28th Mayor of Albuquerque (1993-7; 2001-9)[76]
Bob Coble, 35th Mayor of Columbia, South Carolina (1990–2010)[269]
David Dinkins, 106th Mayor of New York City (1990–3)[270]
Shirley Franklin, 58th Mayor of Atlanta (2002–10)[248]
Gerald Jennings, 74th Mayor of Albany, New York (1994–2013)[153]
Mark Mallory, 68th Mayor of Cincinnati, Ohio (2005–13)[270]
James Barrett McNulty, 26th Mayor of Scranton, Pennsylvania (1982–6)[277]
Douglas Harold Palmer, 45th Mayor of Trenton, New Jersey (1990–2010)[270]
Joseph R. Paolino, Jr., 33rd Mayor of Providence, Rhode Island (1984–91)[278]
James Perkins, Jr., former Mayor of Selma, Alabama (2000–8)[270]
Jerry Springer, 56th Mayor of Cincinnati (1977–8)[279]
Wellington Webb, 42nd Mayor of Denver (1991–2003)[207]
Bill White, 60th Mayor of Houston (2004–10)[199]
Elected municipal and county officials
Current

Anita Alvarez, Cook County, Illinois State's Attorney[208]
Augusto Amador, Newark, New Jersey city councilor[280]
Anita Bonds, Washington, D.C. city councilor[281]
David Briley, Vice-Mayor of Nashville[197]
Cindy Chavez, Santa Clara County, California supervisor[282]
Gayle Chaneyfield-Jenkins, Newark, New Jersey city councilor[280]
Mary Cheh, Washington, D.C. city councilor[283]
Edith S. Childs, Greenwood, South Carolina city councilor[284]
Margaret Chin, New York City city councilor[153]
Mildred C. Crump, Newark, New Jersey City Council President[280]
Joyce Dickerson, Richland County, South Carolina councilor[285]
Jack Evans, Washington, D.C. city councilor[281]
Nancy Floreen, Montgomery County, Maryland councilor[222]
Bridget Gainer, Cook County, Illinois commissioner[208]
Ron Galperin, Los Angeles City Controller[267]
Vincent J. Gentile, New York City city councilor[286]
Chris Giunchigliani, Clark County, Nevada commissioner[287]
Carlos M. Gonzalez, Newark, New Jersey city councilor[280]
Ronald C. Green, 15th City Controller of Houston[199]
Kwanza Hall, Atlanta city councilor[186]
Letitia James, New York City Public Advocate[288]
Corey Johnson, New York City city councilor[289]
Sidney A. Katz, Montgomery County, Maryland councilor[222]
Martin David Kiar, Broward County, Florida commissioner[263]
Ann Kitchen, Austin, Texas city councilor[199]
Sheila Kuehl, Los Angeles County, California supervisor[267]
Jackie Lacey, 42nd Los Angeles District Attorney[290]
George Leventhal, Montgomery County, Maryland councilor[222]
Stephen Levin, New York City city councilor[153]
Melissa Mark-Viverito, Speaker of the New York City Council[291]
Joe Moore, Chicago city councilor[292]
Nancy Navarro, Montgomery County, Maryland councilor[222]
Mitch O'Farrell, Los Angeles city councilor[293]
Eddie Osborne, Newark, New Jersey city councilor[280]
Annabel Palma, New York City city councilor[294]
Toni Preckwinkle, President of the Cook County, Illinois Board of Commissioners[182]
Vic Rawl, Charleston County, South Carolina councilor[295]
Luis A. Quintana, Newark, New Jersey city councilor[280]
Scott Randolph, Orange County, Florida Tax Collector[296]
Anibal Ramos, Jr., Newark, New Jersey city councilor[280]
Craig L. Rice, President of the Montgomery County, Maryland Council[222]
Hilda Solis, Los Angeles commissioner[169]
Larry Stone, Santa Clara County, California assessor[297]
Scott Stringer, 44th New York City Comptroller[153]
Abdi Warsame, Minneapolis city councilor[201]
Karen Yarbrough, Cook County, IL Recorder of Deeds[298]

Former

Lewis A. Fidler, former New York City city councilor[299]
Mark J. Green, 1st New York City Public Advocate (1994–2001)[300]
Gloria Molina, former Los Angeles County, California supervisor[267]
Mike Panetta, former Washington, DC Shadow Representative[301]
Gordon Quan, former Houston city councilor[199]
Christine Quinn, former Speaker of the New York City Council[302]
DNC Members
Current

Maggie Allen, ME[12]
Jon M. Ausman, FL [303]
Shawn K. Bagley, CA[304]
Jan Bauer, IA[305][306]
Eric C. Bauman, CA Dem. Party Vice-Chair[307]
Sandra Brandt, VA[176]
Tonio Burgos, NY[153]
Cordelia Burks, IN Dem. Party Vice-Chair[308]
Alan Clendenin, FL Dem. Party Vice-Chair[309]
Sheila Comar, NY[153]
Jennifer Cunningham, NY[153]
Maria Cuomo Cole, NY[153]
Barbaralee Diamonstein-Spielvogel, NY[153]
Joanne Dowdell, NH[164]
Donald Fowler, SC[310]
Alice Germond, VA[176]
Emily Giske, NY[153]
Debra Haaland, NM Dem. Party Chair[311]
Dan Halpern, GA[186]
Jay Jacobs, NY[153]
Barbara Jones, CO Dem. Party Vice-Chair[207]
Gale Jones Carson, TN[197]
Kaye Koonce, SC Dem. Party 1st Vice-Chair[217]
Sarah Kovner, NY[153]
Linda Langston, IA[312]
Frank Leone, VA[176]
John Litz, TN[197]
Ken Martin, MN DFL Party Chair[150]
Trudy L. Mason, NY Dem. Committee Vice-Chair[153]
Bob Mulholland, CA[308]
Katie Naranjo, TX[199]
Blanca O'Leary, CO[173]
William Owen, TN[197]
Christine Pelosi, CA[282]
DuBose Porter, GA Dem. Party Chair[313]
Dennis Rivera, NY[153]
Mannie Rodriguez, CO[12]
Sally Rosser, GA[186]
Peggy Schaffer, ME Dem. Party Vice-Chair[12]
Nancy Schumacher, MN[201]
Leslie Small, GA[186]
Susan Swecker, VA Dem. Party Chair[314]
Billy Shaheen, NH[164]
Kathy Sullivan, NH[164]
Gerry Sweeney, NY[153]
Annette Taddeo, FL[315]
Nikema Williams, GA Dem. Party 1st Vice-Chair[186]
David Worley, GA[186]
Rob Zimmerman, NY[316]

Former

Tony Buxton, former ME Dem. Party Chair[12]
Roxanne Conlin, former IA Dem. Party Chair[188]
Lanny Davis, MD[317]
Nancy DiNardo, former CT Dem. Party Chair[318]
Sue Dvorsky, former IA Dem. Party Chair[188]
Chip Forrester, former TN Dem. Party Chair[197]
Carol Fowler, former SC Dem. Party Chair[319]
Ben Grant, former ME Dem. Party Chair[12]
Judith Hope, former NY Dem. Committee Chair[153]
Harold M. Ickes, DC[320]
Joe Keefe, former NH Dem. Party Chair[164]
Reginald Lafayette, NY[153]
Sheila McGuire Riggs, former IA Dem. Party Chair[188]
Victoria Murphy, former ME Dem. Party Chair[12]
Terry Shumaker, NH[321]
Rob Tully, former IA Dem. Party Chair[188]
IndividualsClay Aiken, 2014 U.S. House candidate (NC) and singer[322]
Jill Alper, former Political Director of the DNC[323]
Megan Beyer, journalist[176]
Jeffrey L. Bleich, former Ambassador to Australia (2009–2013)[282]
Roger H. Brown, Berklee College of Music President and co-founder of Bright Horizons Family Solutions[324]
Calvin O. Butts, President of The State University of New York at Old Westbury[153]
Maria Cardona, Democratic strategist and political commentator[325]
Wesley Clark, retired U.S. Army General[326]
David L. Cohen, Chairman of the Board of Trustees of the University of Pennsylvania[327]
Elizabeth Colbert Busch, 2013 U.S. House candidate (SC) and sister of Stephen Colbert[217]
Ruby Corado, LGBT activist[301]
Jerry Crawford, attorney and founder of the Iowa Energy basketball team[328]
Steve Culbertson, President and CEO of Youth Service America[301]
Wes Culwell, LGBT writer and blogger[301]
Chuck Currie, reverend, activist, and director of the Center for Peace & Spirituality at Pacific University[329]
Ryan J. Davis, director, writer, and activist[289]
Hazel Dukes, former President of the NAACP[153]
Sean Eldridge, 2012 U.S. House candidate (NY)[330]
Leecia Eve, attorney and New York State Deputy Secretary for Economic Development[153]
Peter Fenn, Democratic strategist and political commentator[331]
Nikki Finke, journalist and blogger[332]
Katherine Fugate, screenwriter and producer[169]
Kalyn Free, Special Council to Principal Chief Bill John Baker of the Cherokee Nation[12]
Brenda Sue Fulton, LGBT rights activist and co-founder of Knights Out and OutServe-SLDN[289]
Roxane Gay, writer and commentator[333]
Gordon Giffin, former Ambassador to Canada (1997–2001)[334]
Jehmu Greene, former National Director of Project Vote[335]
Ruth Harkin, member of the Iowa Board of Regents[224]
Irene Hirano, President of the U.S.-Japan Council and widow of Daniel Inouye[166]
John Hope Bryant, founder, chairman, and CEO of Operation HOPE and member of the President’s Advisory Council on Financial Capability[186]
Frederick S. Humphries, President Emeritus of Tennessee State University and Florida A&M University[336]
Dolores Huerta, co-founder of the United Farm Workers of America[337]
Vicki Iovine, writer[169]
Christine Jennings, Sarasota County, Florida Democratic Committee Chair[338]
Brendan Johnson, former U.S. Attorney for the District of South Dakota[339]
Roberta Kaplan, attorney for United States v. Windsor and author of Then Comes Marriage.[340]
Michael Kempner, DNC Deputy Finance Chair[341]
Caroline Kennedy, Ambassador to Japan (2013–present) and daughter of John Fitzgerald Kennedy[342]
Rory Kennedy, documentary filmmaker and daughter of Robert Francis Kennedy[343]
Lonnie C. King, Jr., civil rights leader[186]
Bertha Lewis, activist and former CEO of ACORN[153]
Gene Lyons, political columnist[344]
Jim Lyons, attorney and former President of the Faculty of Federal Advocates (FFA) of the U.S. District Court for the District of Colorado[12]
Linda A. Mason, chairwoman of Mercy Corps relief agency and co-founder of Bright Horizons Family Solutions[324]
Win McCormack, Democratic Party of Oregon President's Council Chair[85]
Mike McWherter, 2010 gubernatorial candidate (TN)[197]
Bryn Mooser, filmmaker[345]
Michael Mulgrew, President of the United Federation of Teachers[153]
Donna Nigh, former First Lady of Oklahoma and disabilities rights activist[12]
Terry O'Neill, President of the National Organization for Women[176]
Alan C. Page, retired Minnesota Supreme Court Justice and NFL player[201]
Valerie Plame, former CIA officer and subject of the Plame affair[346]
David Plouffe, former Executive Director of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and Senior Advisor to the President (2011–13)[347]
Katha Politt, feminist poet, essayist, and critic[348]
Cecile Richards, President of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America and daughter of Ann Richards[349]
Laura Ricketts, co-owner of the Chicago Cubs and Lambda Legal board member[350]
Lawrence Romo, Director of the Selective Service System[351]
Donna Sachet, actor, singer, spokesmodel, and community activist[352]
Reshma Saujani, attorney, tech-sector activist, and founder of Girls Who Code[353]
Eric P. Schwartz, former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Population, Refugees, and Migration[201]
James B. Smith, former Ambassador to Saudi Arabia (2009-2013)[354]
Michael S. Smith, interior designer[169]
Alan Solow, attorney, Jewish leader, and philanthropist[355]
Marc Stanley, attorney and president of the National Jewish Democratic Council[356]
Gloria Steinem, feminist leader[357]
Ken Sunshine, media consultant[358]
Jon Stryker, architect, philanthropist, and LGBT rights activist[355]
Katrina Swett, 2002 U.S. House candidate (NH)[359]
Eleni Tsakopoulos Kounalakis, former Ambassador to Hungary (2010–2013)[360]
Casey Wasserman, former Chairman of the Arena Football League[361]
Joseph C. Wilson, former Ambassador to Gabon (1992–1995)[346]
Anna Wintour, editor-in-chief of American Vogue[362]
Esther Wojcicki, journalist, educator, and vice-chair of the Creative Commons board of directors[363]
Leaders in BusinessAdrienne Arsht, Chairman Emerita of TotalBank and philanthropist[19]
Irving Azoff, music producer[345]
Marc Benioff, founder, chairman and CEO of salesforce.com, philanthropist[364]
Michael Birch, tech entrepreneur and co-founder of Bebo[346]
Xochi Birch, tech entrepreneur and co-founder of Bebo[346]
Steven Bochco, television producer[365]
Scooter Braun, music talent manager[366]
Eli Broad, founder of KB Home and SunAmerica and philanthropist[355]
Warren Buffett, investor and philanthropist[367]
Ari Emanuel, talent agent and brother of Rahm Emanuel[327]
Fred Eychaner, chairman of Newsweb and philanthropist[330]
Lynn Forester de Rothschild, CEO of E.L. Rothschild and philanthropist[330]
Rob Friedman, Co-Chairman of Lionsgate Motion Picture Group[368]
Larry Flynt, publisher and the president of Larry Flynt Publications[369]
Tim Gill, founder of Quark and LGBT rights activist[355]
Gary Hirshberg, former CEO and co-founder of Stonyfield Yogurt [164]
Chris Hughes, Executive Chairman of The New Republic[330]
Irwin M. Jacobs, former CEO and co-founder of Qualcomm[370]
Jeffrey Katzenberg, businessman, film studio executive and film producer[371]
Marc Lasry, co-founder and CEO of Avenue Capital Group and co-owner of the Milwaukee Bucks[372]
Aaron Levie, entrepreneur and co-founder of cloud company Box[373]
Austin Ligon, co-founder and former CEO of CarMax[191]
John J. Mack, former CEO and Chairman of the Board of Morgan Stanley[374]
Alan Patricof, founder of Apax Partners[375]
L.A. Reid, CEO of Epic Records[376]
Haim Saban, chairman and CEO of Saban Capital Group[327]
Sheryl Sandberg, technology executive, activist, and author[377]
Roy Spence, co-founder of GSD&M and philanthropist[199]
Steve Spinner, technology investor and policy expert[355]
Martha Stewart, founder and chairwoman of Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia[378]
Tom Steyer, hedge fund manager, philanthropist, and environmentalist[379]
Susie Tompkins Buell, co-founder of Espirit[380]
Tracey Pettengill Turner, social entrepreneur and founder of microfinance provider MicroPlace[381]
Silda Wall Spitzer, co-founder and CEO of New York States of Mind LLC and former First Lady of New York State[153]
Harvey Weinstein, producer and co-founder of Miramax Films[382]
Anne Wojcicki, co-founder and CEO of 23andMe[383]
Susan Wojcicki, CEO of YouTube[383]
Robert Wolf , Former President and CEO of UBS Investment Bank[384]
John Zaccaro, real-estate developer and widower of Geraldine Ferraro[385]
International political figuresJohn Baird, former Canadian Minister of Foreign Affairs (2010–2015) (member of the Conservative Party)[386]
Silvio Berlusconi, former Prime Minister of Italy (member of Forza Italia)[387]
Simon Burns, British Member of Parliament (member of the Conservative Party)[388][389]
Laurent Fabius, Foreign Minister of France (2012–present) (member of the Socialist Party)[390]
Julia Gillard, former Prime Minister of Australia (member of the Australian Labor Party)[391]
Nicolas Sarkozy, former President of France (member of The Republicans)[392]
Frank-Walter Steinmeier, German Minister for Foreign Affairs (member of the Social Democratic Party of Germany)[393]
Nicola Sturgeon, First Minister of Scotland (member of Scottish National Party)[394]
Celebrities
50 Cent, rapper[395]
Paula Abdul, singer-songwriter and choreographer[396]
Farrah Abraham, television personality and author[397]
Uzo Aduba, actress[322]
Ben Affleck, actor[398]
Dianna Agron, actress[399]
Christina Aguilera, singer and actress[327]
Jessica Alba, actress[290]
Marc Anthony, singer[400]
Judd Apatow, actor[401]
ASAP Rocky, rapper[402]
Sean Astin, actor and director[403]
Elizabeth Banks, actress[404]
Joy Behar, comedienne and talk show host[405]
Beth Behrs, actress[406]
Matthew Bellamy, lead singer of Muse[345]
Tony Bennett singer[407]
Beyoncé, singer[376]
Dustin Lance Black, screenwriter[408]
Jon Bon Jovi, singer-songwriter[409]
Zach Braff, actor, director[345]
Christie Brinkley, supermodel[410]
Tory Burch, fashion designer[411]
Mariah Carey, singer-songwriter[412]
Marcy Carsey, television producer[327]
Lynda Carter, actress[413]
Georgina Chapman, fashion designer[414]
Cher, singer and actress[415]
Ambyr Childers, actress[345]
Kelly Clarkson, singer-songwriter[416]
George Clooney, actor[417]
Bruce Cohen, producer[289]
Jason Collins, retired NBA player[418]
Common, rapper[419]
Bryan Cranston, actor[420]
Matt Damon, actor[421]
Ted Danson, actor[422]
Ellen DeGeneres, comedienne and television personality[422]
Robert De Niro, actor[423]
Kat Dennings, actress[322]
Guillermo Díaz, actor[424]
Leonardo DiCaprio, actor[398]
Lena Dunham, actress[425][426]
Nora Dunn, actress, comedian, author [427]
Jesse Eisenberg, actor [428]
Dakota Fanning, actress[327]
Jesse Tyler Ferguson, actor[429]
America Ferrera, actress[406]
Sally Field, actress[422]
Jamie Foxx, actor[430]
Jason George, actor[169]
Richard Gere, actor[431]
Tony Goldwyn, actor, director[432]
Ellie Goulding, singer-songwriter[429]
Howard Gordon, producer[408]
Ariana Grande, singer[433]
A Great Big World, band[345]
Mamie Gummer, actress[434]
Prabal Gurung, fashion designer[435]
Tom Hanks, actor and director[436]
Anne Hathaway, actress[437]
Salma Hayek, actress[438]
Marg Helgenberger, actress[439]
Faith Hill, singer[440]
Grant Hill, retired NBA player[441]
Dustin Hoffman, actor[422]
Katie Holmes, actress[345]
Kate Hudson, actress[345]
Helen Hunt, actress[442]
Ice-T, rapper and actor[443]
Abbi Jacobson, comedienne, actress and writer[429]
Ja Rule, rapper and singer[444]
Kris Jenner, television personality[436]
Scarlett Johansson, actress[445]
Elton John, singer-songwriter[422]
Magic Johnson, NBA Hall-of-Famer[446]
Star Jones, attorney and television personality[447]
Ashley Judd, actress and political activist[448]
Donna Karan, fashion designer[410]
Kim Kardashian, television personality[91]
Harvey Keitel, actor and producer[449]
Tori Kelly, singer-songwriter[436]
Carole King, singer-songwriter[450]
Heidi Klum, model and television personality[451]
Michael Kors, fashion designer[382]
Diane Kruger, actress[429]
Lisa Kudrow, actress[398]
Mila Kunis, actress[452]
Michelle Kwan, figure skater[453]
Lady Gaga, singer[398]
Padma Lakshmi, television personality[406]
Annie Leibovitz, photographer[382]
John Legend, singer[454]
LuAnn de Lesseps, television personality[382]
Damon Lindelof, screenwriter and producer[169]
Eva Longoria, actress[422]
Jennifer Lopez, singer and actress[445]
Tobey Maguire, actor[408]
Angie Martinez, radio personality and former rapper[455]
Kate McKinnon, comedienne and actress[456]
Ricky Martin, singer-songwriter[457]
Christina Milian, singer and actress[345]
Helen Mirren, actress[458]
Moby, singer-songwriter and musician[435]
Monica, singer and actress[459]
Chloë Grace Moretz, actress[460]
Matthew Morrison, actor and singer-songwriter[382]
Morrissey, singer-songwriter[461]
Ne-Yo, rapper and singer[402]
Jack Nicholson, actor[422]
Jessye Norman, soprano[462]
Rory O'Malley, actor[289]
Omarosa, television personality[463]
Sharon Osbourne, television personality[376]
Kimberly Ovitz, fashion designer[345]
Josh Peck, actor[429]
Katy Perry, singer[464]
Linda Perry, lead singer of 4 Non Blondes[345]
Amy Poehler, actress and comedienne[429]
Dascha Polanco, actress[465]
Natalie Portman, actress[422]
Kelly Price, singer-songwriter[441]
Andrew Rannells, actor and singer[435]
Rob Reiner, director[466]
Chris Rock, comedian and actor[467]
Jane Rosenthal, producer[382]
Cynthia Rowley, fashion designer[382]
RuPaul, actor[322]
Adam Shankman, director and producer[327]
Sia, singer-songwriter[468]
Jennifer Siebel Newsom, documentary filmmaker and actress[183]
Snoop Dogg, rapper[322]
Mary Steenburgen, actress[422][436]
Howard Stern, media personality[469]
Sharon Stone, actress[470]
Barbra Streisand, singer and actress[422]
George Takei, actor[471]
André Leon Talley, fashion critic and television personality[382]
James Taylor, singer-songwriter[472]
Bella Thorne, actress[401]
Meghan Trainor, singer-songwriter[376]
John Travolta, actor[473]
Liv Tyler, actress and model[474]
Usher, singer-songwriter[475]
Wilmer Valderrama, actor[438]
Meredith Vieira, television personality[476]
Waka Flocka Flame, rapper[322]
Vera Wang, fashion designer[382]
Kerry Washington, actress[322]
Kanye West, rapper[91]
Olivia Wilde, actress[477]
Pharrell Williams, producer and singer-songwriter[478]
Rebel Wilson, actress[401]
Rita Wilson, actress[436]
Reese Witherspoon, actress[327]
Stevie Wonder, singer-songwriter[479]
Jeffrey Wright, actor[406]
Jason Wu, fashion designer[382]
Young Jeezy, rapper[435]
Amy Ziering, producer and director[327]
Labor UnionsAFSCME – American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, representing 1.3 million[480]
AFT – American Federation of Teachers, representing 1.6 million[481]
BAC – International Union of Bricklayers and Allied Craftworkers, representing 76,233[482]
IAM – International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, representing 570,423[483]
ILA - International Longshoremen's Association, representing 65,000[484]
IUOE - International Union of Operating Engineers, representing 374,521[485]
IUPAT – International Union of Painters and Allied Trades, representing 103,858[486]
NEA – National Education Association, representing 3 million[487]
OPCMIA – Operative Plasterers' and Cement Masons' International Association, representing 39,000[488]
UA – United Association of Journeymen and Apprentices of the Plumbing, Pipefitting and Sprinkler Fitting Industry of the U.S. and Canada, representing 329,954[489]
UBC – The United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America, representing 520,000[490]
United Union of Roofers, Waterproofers and Allied Workers, representing 22,000[491]
OrganizationsCook County, Illinois Democratic Party[492]
Kings County Democratic County Committee (Brooklyn Democratic Party)[493]
EMILY's List, PAC that aims to help elect pro-choice Democratic women to office[494]
Equality California, LGBT rights organization[495]
League of Conservation Voters, Environmentalist advocacy group[496]
LPAC, Lesbian Political Action Committee[497]
National Women's Political Caucus[498]
Stonewall Democrats of Arizona, a Democratic LGBT rights organization and Political Action Committee.[499]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
67. Uh...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:40 PM
Nov 2015

But I suppose since it includes Vera Wang everyone will get to wear terriffic dresses and Jorn Travolta will do a great job bringing the wealthy scientologist votes.

Seriously, do you think this list matters at all to people that are making nine dollars an hour? Or people mired in student loan debt? Or people who still can't get decent healthcare because of the excesses of the insurance industry?

This list has equal parts indictment of establishment politics as much as much as it has positive recommendations.

Argue on the issues and on policy. In both cases Bernie is the superior pick.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
71. "Argue on the issues and on policy. In both cases Bernie is the superior pick."
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:45 PM
Nov 2015

I answered a direct question from Pinebox about how Hillary is going to get things done. Networking is extremely important at the Presidential level. Pinebox is the one claiming this as an "issue," not me. Take up your cause with them in that instance. It is their concern.

Your thoughts on John Lewis and so many others is clear. I for the life of me can't figure out how and someone doesn't understand the importance of networking.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
75. You brought up John Lewis
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:56 PM
Nov 2015

If you search my entire posting history on DU, this will be the first time I used his name.

Do not put words in my mouth. Ever.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
78. Issues are important to you and immediately after, you snidely bring up Vera Wang and outfits?
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:13 PM
Nov 2015

you do realize how stupid that just sounded?

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
81. Right
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:22 PM
Nov 2015

Actually, I didn't bring up Vera Wang until after the poster brought up John Lewis as a counter to my Bandwagon argument.

I pointed out that a list like this is a bandwagon.
The poster brought up a very credible and important living civil rights leader.
I pointed out two other names on the big 'ole bandwagon list.


And just in case you didn't realize it, Bandwaggoning is a propaganda technique. The person that created the list is the "bandwaggoner. John Lewis just happens to be on that list.

And that was your high school level lesson on techniques of propaganda today...

Any questions?

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
90. Uhm...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:39 PM
Nov 2015

That is a bad argument. I don't think you understand anything I wrote or you are intentionally trying to add in a context that isn't there.


I posted Vera Wang and John Travolta as a CONTRAST to a respected, elder statesman and amazing civil rights leader. I was pointing out there were absurd people on that list as well as respected people.


Scroll back up, and read again.


 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
53. Forget it, you obviously can't answer my question.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:31 PM
Nov 2015

Copy paste pro is pro though.
Republicans aren't going to work with Hillary. It's a fantasy to think otherwise. One word, "Benghazi".
Point proven.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
64. It was a direct answer to your question.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:38 PM
Nov 2015

But you are more interested in the "issues" that concern you. Like some crazy in SC threating to impeach someone who isn't even president. Nice "issue." I provided you with a direct answer to you question. Sorry, republicans lost in the woods aren't my top issue, as it is with you.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
70. You're spinning this way to hard dude
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:44 PM
Nov 2015

and in the process you're missing my point entirely.

GOP won't stop investi-hating Hillary until they can prove she personally Bengahzi'd Vince Foster
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/22/1437191/-GOP-won-t-stop-investi-hating-Hillary-until-they-can-prove-she-personally-Bengahzi-d-Vince-Foster

Do you honestly think that everything will just stop all the sudden and be lollipops and Bob Ross paintings the day Hillary is elected?
Again, there isn't a chance in hell ANY Republican is going to work with Hillary. Those who do will be primaried and chastised openly in the conservative arena that is Red State, The Daily Caller and Fox News.

Also, remember, Dems are NOT the majority in congress.

As far as my issue, yes stagnation is is something I and many millions have a problem with, I'm sick of DC and sick of politicians and how they're owned by special interests. No matter what side they're on.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
93. You are still missing the point
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:47 PM
Nov 2015

Don't you get it? Republicans hate Hillary and will never work with her.
How many times do I have to say this? Networking is fine BUT there's no networking when Republicans will obstruct everything and anything related to Hillary. Do you think they care about that stuff? Heck no. Obama and obstruction will look like a cake walk should Hillary win the nomination.
This is pretty much a given.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
86. Thanks for the super fucking obnoxious post. My phone loved
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:35 PM
Nov 2015

scrolling through it. A mile wide, an inch deep is her support. Opposite from this shitty infuriating post which appears a mile long, half inch wide.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
91. You are very welcome.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:40 PM
Nov 2015

It is a great list of endorsers and John Lewis isn't an "inch deep" as you suggest.

Great job.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
94. Can you trim your post please
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:59 PM
Nov 2015

It's locking up my phone as well.
Thank you very much. Maybe screen cap would be better. It's freezing me.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
96. It is an extremely important list of endorsements and is exactly the info you wanted.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:03 PM
Nov 2015

I just reloaded it on my phone twice without issue. The other poster also had zero issues they mentioned about loading. Do you get that overall, digital wise, it is extremely small. I can find post after post with higher word counts. It is not like a bunch of pictures in a post. Completely different. Locking up on that one would be a phone problem.

Please don't attempt to silence the truth you requested by making up an issue with it "locking" your phone. The list is important considering what you have been saying. And I mean the whole list. It in itself is extremely impressive.

On another note, you really shouldn't ask what you are as you go around yelling "impeachment" and "Vince Foster."

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
103. Just trim it
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:12 PM
Nov 2015

seriously, trim it, it's locking my phone up and others, or at least screen shot it so it doesn't do it.
I'm on Galaxy 6.

I'm not attempting to silence the truth, I'm asking you to have some respect for others.

You know what, fuck it, I'll ignore ya and then I won't have to worry about it.

No time for stupid people who want to play stupid games to win stupid prizes.

On a side note, you shouldn't be a jerk to others when they ask you to do something because your post which is the size of the bible is giving people's phones hissy fits.

See ya.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
109. You do understand how small that post is in the big scheme of things?
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:17 PM
Nov 2015

I just checked a couple of Sabrina1's posts that have a similar word count and you replied in them. You didn't seem to have a phone issue then. Ignore would be your best bet.

Annoying I would understand. But I find your fear of impeachment and concerns over Vince Foster to be annoying.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
115. Endorsers, a bunch of whom, actually write legislation. Do you think that might be ...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:23 PM
Nov 2015

important to mention?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
111. Perfect response. Now drop the mic and walk slowly off the stage ...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:18 PM
Nov 2015

before the "Endorsements Don't Matter" train pulls into the station.

 

willvotesdem

(75 posts)
131. Hmmmmm at best a few thousand votes. Now count the number of libs that
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:36 PM
Nov 2015

will stay home for the general and the number of republican voters and independents that will come out to vote against her and see what that list gets you. IMHO If HRC is our nominee we will lose the general.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
134. Strongly disagree.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:51 PM
Nov 2015

That's the beauty of opinions. In this instance it looks like we are going to end up with facts rather than opinions before too long. I'm willing to make my decision of who I think is best suited to move us forward, not who republicans or "libs" are going to vote for or not.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
38. Maybe we should just let the GOPU choose our nominee
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:14 PM
Nov 2015

Maybe we should just let the GOPU choose our nominee so then we can be certain he or she is acceptable to them.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
44. They now are acting as if they didn't post that.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:19 PM
Nov 2015

I directly asked them if this was one of the "issues" that are so important to them. They cough cough deflect cough cough. It is clear that this is a direct "issue" by their own metrics. Doesn't that mean that every single thing out there should be defined as an "issue" by them.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
49. Res ipsa loquitur
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:26 PM
Nov 2015
Well explain then how you think she'll advance anything or get anything done when this is going on please.
It's an honest question. It really is. /shrug

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/10/27/3716654/hillary-clinton-impeach-north-carolina-voters-poll/



-pinebox

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
76. It is what it is...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:57 PM
Nov 2015

I am beyond getting upset because I see the light at the end of the tunnel and it ain't a train. It's fresh air and victory.


kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
48. I'm sorry
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:26 PM
Nov 2015

But I cannot trust that someone that takes so much money from the banks, wallstreet, and drug companies on Tuesday is actualy going to try to regulate them on Thursday.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
55. What about it?
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:32 PM
Nov 2015

It is an illustration.

I don't trust people who take money from a large corporation to do a good job regulating it. Simple as that.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
66. Hair is my single issue. Hence, Feel the Bern is my first choice and Feel the Chafe is my second.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:39 PM
Nov 2015

Kidding. O'Malley is my second. I am not a purist and have come to terms with his boring 'do.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
77. Bernie tackles the BIG issues.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:07 PM
Nov 2015

A Bernie Sanders presidency would significantly improve the lives of ordinary Americans. He is the only candidate who will do that if elected.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
54. Let's not harrangue them too much
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:32 PM
Nov 2015

It's OK to remind people that Sanders is better on most of the issues, but I don't want to imply support for Clinton indicates indifference abut the issues. Clinton supporters are quick to point out she's good enough, even though she's not as progressive as Bernie. With the exception of foreign policy, they're probably correct. A Clinton presidency offers some good possibilities. It depends on how you feel about what to push, and how hard to push it. I support Bernie because he's a democratic socialist and I like the idea of advocating what we really need, not starting from a compromise position and retreating form there. But Hillary offers some incremental progress, and I'm not opposed to increments, if that's the best we can do, and Hillary says she will get the best possible increments.

Personally, I calculate that the Republicans will refuse to budge an inch on anything, rendering Clinton's incremental approach ineffective. I think pushing for dramatic change with Sanders may be more productive, since there is a greater chance it will get people fired up, and we'll elect a decent congress in 2018. Or maybe not. I admit mine is a risky strategy, and Clinton offers what seems to be a safer alternative. But I see it as a retreat, and I don't think we have a safe place to retreat. The Republicans are poised to dismantle the last remnants of the New Deal, and we can't stop them by compromising because there's nothing we can offer them that will appease them. Might as well stand and fight.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
60. "Good enough" for millions to still rely on Govt assistance for food
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:34 PM
Nov 2015

That's my story and I'm sticking to it XD

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
79. Under a Sanders presidency, their situations would change.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:14 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie would push for policies that actually improve the financial situations of ordinary Americans. People would be able to get good jobs with reasonable pay again. Bernie would turn our rigged economy around.

This is important, pinebox.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
58. I will vote for the candidate most qualified, I think Clinton is most qualified out of all
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:33 PM
Nov 2015

candidates. I will continue to support Hillary Clinton.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
80. thing is, it's not JUST the fact that he's running to support the issues, instead of
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:19 PM
Nov 2015

talking pretty on the issues to get power

Americans have been blocked from being able to get what they need from their political class and Sanders is the only one who can start dismantling these hurdles; even Trump's popularity comes from his rhetoric targeting the oligarchy (though he's the epitome of one himself)

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
82. How is this in any way appropriate?
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:22 PM
Nov 2015

The entire point of this post is to suggest that people who support HRC don't "truly" care about the issues - whatever the hell that even means. It is offensive and insulting and needs to stop.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
95. I truly care about the issues that I judge of importance to me, and ...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:03 PM
Nov 2015

I won't be voting for Sanders in the primary.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
118. Why? So you can tell me the Good News about Sanders? No! Thanks ...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:30 PM
Nov 2015

I will say that O'Malley's position and record matches up with my issues, more directly.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
120. No ... I don't need you telling me that Bernie is better on policy than O'Malley ...
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:34 PM
Nov 2015

I have done the homework and came to a different conclusion.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
99. That is an awful lot or words to say no true Scot would vote
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:09 PM
Nov 2015

For anybody other than Sanders. You do realize that people who are smart and care could come to a different opinion based on how they weigh individual issues or likelihood of winning the general or any number of other things that go into why people vote.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
107. rightwingers don't have a monopoly on voting against their own self-interests
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:16 PM
Nov 2015

and as I've seen and argued since before the end of the first Clinton admin, voting for his kinda dem is exactly that.

That's the beginning of the good cop/bad cop, faux duopoly, janus-like condition in DC that so many of the current Clinton supporters are either oblivious to or fully supportive of.

Her opposition to single-payer alone more than validates all of this, and it also shows how far removed she is from where most progressive/liberal dems actually are. Sadly, this isn't a case of her willfully defying the will of the people, it's her supporters letting her get away with it.

good post.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
138. If you care whether a Democrat is our next
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:56 PM
Nov 2015

President, though, you'll vote for Hillary Clinton. Fortunately, that's what a majority of primary voters in Al.most every state will do.

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