2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs it just me, or does Mitt Rmoney have the WORST EXECUTIVE STYLE of any presidential nominee in
the last century at least?
Delegates walking out, shouting down speakers, republicans jumping ship all over the country, several opponents from the primaries not invited and allowed to stew over it, one likely to actively seek an independent candidacy, press insulted, . . .
Repubs generally have a history of papering over their differences and presenting a united front. But this bunch is busting out brawling every ten minutes.
My gut feeling is that Mittens' management style is probably pure brute force, that he doesn't have a clue how to get people to work together. Even the shrub managed to let professionals iron out the wrinkles and present a nice facade. Mitt seems to get people fighting and stabbing each other in the back rather then even pretending to work together.
Seems like a disaster for the GOP (and it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch). But, sadly, could also be a disaster for this country and for the world.
If he does manage to steal the election (no way he could actually win a fair vote), I think we can expect the United States to break up into 50 separate warring countries within about 2 months.
I am not just being snarky here, I really am feeling that there is something seriously fucked up about the way this campaign is being run.
And I think that says a lot about the jerk at the top of the ticket.
Has anyone else here had similar takes on this? Or am I just having a very bad dream?
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)DLnyc
(2,479 posts)But I've been around quite a few years, and I don't remember seeing such disarray in a long time.
It looks like a bit like "Lord of the Flies", for those who have read that fairly frightening book.
But my point was that other candidates, even Repubs, maybe even especially Repubs, have managed the conventions much much much MUCH better than this. IMHO.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)but you are correct ......... this year they seem very disorganized
DLnyc
(2,479 posts)Disorganized and also alienating large numbers of their voters and party stalwarts, I think.
Not to mention inspiring large numbers to work against them.
dkf
(37,305 posts)The crazy ones are at the debates.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It's no one person's fault. It is just the way things work.
The Republican Party is made up of different interest groups, one more rigid and ideological than the next. That spells disaster -- in politics, marriage, any group, any society.
They all disagree, but they are all 100% certain that their point of view is so right that it is the only point of view that they can accept.
The Republican Party has become the party of no compromises. They didn't want to compromise with the Democrats or with Obama and now they don't want to, they can't compromise with each other.
DLnyc
(2,479 posts)But even if the party would be flying apart in any case, I don't get the picture of Mr. Mittens doing anything in particular to try to do anything about it. Which is fine by me, let them split into a million little fragments.
But as far as executive skill, skill in at least trying to get a large group of people to get some task done, I would say Rmoney don't got it!
Tyrant skills, maybe, but executive skills, no.
TheDonkey
(8,911 posts)Palin, Akin, Bachman, Bush, Ron Paul, Pizza man etc etc, there are a lot of popular characters in the GOP that were literally locked out of the convention. Not good for the party's base that still is not in love with Romney and it won't etch a sketch these individuals away because they are still finding a way to get in front of cameras. It just shows the party is fractured.
DLnyc
(2,479 posts)Just a big "fuck you" to anyone who is not a currently useful tool to be used to further his whims and ambitions.
Not a very pretty picture.
Not that I feel sorry for these assholes. In fact I hope he alienates more and more of his potential supporters, faster and faster.
But it's interesting to me that it's sort of the opposite of any kind of executive skill, as far as I think I understand the concept.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)DLnyc
(2,479 posts)I don't think he is able to manage people in even the most rudimentary way. He apparently knows how to throw around big piles of cash in such a way that his pile gets bigger. But, if this campaign is any evidence, he is as good at managing large groups of people as whales are at repairing watches. To pick a metaphor more or less at random.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)...I mean how often in 2004 and 2008 did we hear that phrasing. I don't think a juvenile sense of humor, deviousness, and a lack of empathy (characteristics most journalists ascribe to Romney) fit the bill of what is "presidential."
Sugarcoated
(7,728 posts)that's basically what it comes down to. He is what he is.
flamingdem
(39,319 posts)Like a zoo with all the animals let out of their cages, scary.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)He is probably wondering now how he can manage to pull this off. He is so much of an egghead he will never connect with the American people. He is hoping Ann can help, but most of us never even heard the word dressage before this campaign, and we certainly don't run in the same crowds. He's hoping Adelson has this in the bag (and they might, who knows?) All he has to do is keep cruising, and avoiding the tough questions. Now is the time to release the hounds. This man cannot be our next president.
DLnyc
(2,479 posts)I think a focus on the divisive fractious warring mess he is creating may help in getting his polls so low even Adleson, Diebold and all of Rove's army of vote suppressing thugs all put together can't pull his ass out the swamp!
I hope.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)As far as I'm concerned they are engaging in another attempt to steal an election. Until we get rid of those computers, I trust nothing. Just hope we pull this one out. :/
oldsarge54
(582 posts)<a href="" target="_blank"><img src="" border="0" alt="MrTeaonleadership"></a>
This particular cartoon I drew a year or two ago. We're having the same nightmare.
LiberalFighter
(51,054 posts)Due to his Mormon upbringing and the standing he had within the system he probably never had to deal with any serious challenges in life. Basically his word was the law and if anyone challenged it they were dealt with accordingly.
DLnyc
(2,479 posts)He was born with a huge pile of cash and his only skill is doing exactly as he pleases. Works okay when you're raping companies, I guess. Not so good for running a large national party. Let alone running a country.
Please don't let our country become Willard's next hobby disaster!
MatthewStLouis
(904 posts)has no empathy for other human beings. I am starting to think he really is a sociopath.