Hillary hops on carbon-spewing private Learjet after winning endorsement from environmental group

[Rosa Luxemburg]

Clinton boarded a Learjet model 60 private jet in Lebanon, New Hampshire after 2 days of campaigning – a plane that emits 2 TONS of carbon per hour.

The League of Conservation voters gave her an unusually early endorsement on Monday during the same campaign trip
The group says its 'top priority is addressing climate change'

Clinton's campaign pledged in July to go 'carbon neutral,' after a DailyMail video showed her boarding a private jet following a global warming speech

The campaign hasn't outlined any steps it's taken since then toward achieving that goal



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3314183/Hillary-hops-carbon-spewing-private-jet-winning-endorsement-environmental-group-says-fighting-global-warming-priority.html

[philosslayer]

1. She's a Presidential candidate

What do you think she should do? Take the bus?

[tk2kewl]

34. Bernie flies coach

Even if she flew 1st class nn a commercial flight it would be a lot less CO2 per person on board

[kelliekat44]

38. Oh, just wow!!! She was in the air for all of what 30 minutes? nt

[tk2kewl]

45. And that's the only time she flew on a private jet?

The op contrasts her behavior with the endorsement of a environmental group. It's a legitimate criticism.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

73. The League of Conservation Voters

hasn't done its homework

[Fawke Em]

81. Which is WORSE!

Starting and warming a plane engine for a 30 minute trip? She wasted more than she used!

[grasswire]

109. why couldn't someone drive the distance, if it's that short?

Really. A private jet for a 30 minute trip??

[JackInGreen]

127. Fantastic point

+1

[in_cog_ni_to]

158. In a Prius - which emits negligible pollution. A Prius could be made bullet proof.

That endorsement had NOTHING to do with The Hillary being Green. If LCV actually cared about the planet, Bernie would have received their endorsement.

[doc03]

191. If you made Prius bullet proof it would be too heavy for

the hamsters to pull.

[ronnykmarshall]

166. and can you imagine the hassle for the other passengers?

The secret service and all the security?

Oh of course then there would be the OUTRAGE about that from the Republicans and Bernie supporters.

Give me a fucking break with this bullshit.

[AgingAmerican]

190. Republicans and Sanders supporters would be outraged if she flew coach?

lol

[randys1]

178. I just typed a response about this and realized I would be silenced if I posted it.

oh well

[JackInGreen]

126. Coach with everyone else

Works for Bernie.

[UglyGreed]

164. So is Bernie

http://imgur.com/gallery/M2FGHrv

[Armstead]

170. Funny, it said he was watching The Bodyguard on video

Good to know he knows how to distract himself with foolishness occasionally

[cantbeserious]

2. Duplicity Is As Duplicity Does

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[bigtree]

3. so Sanders doesn't fly?

[cantbeserious]

5. Commercial Airlines Designed For The 99% - Not Private Jets Designed For The 1%

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[msongs]

7. that would be carbon spewing jets run by commercial airlines lol nt

[cantbeserious]

8. Carbon Per Seat Mile Much Lower Than A Private Jet Designed For Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks

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[bigtree]

20. so he's polluting less?

...a very petty argument, on an environmental level.

[cantbeserious]

24. Beats The Unnecessary Addition To Climate Change By The HRC Entourage

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[Bread and Circus]

31. Actually if he was taking public transportation it would be a good argument.

However I doubt he could do so with the size of entourage Clinton likely has.

I don't fault Clinton for this though, it is a logistical and practical matter. Right now...flying via petro is what we do.

Perhaps they could make special efforts to use jet fuel made from algae or biodiesel or something... I am not really sure but I think I have heard of certain technologies like this.

However, for all the things Clinton does, I can't really hold this against her... for now, it is probably just a practical issue that she doesn't even decide on... I am sure she has a logistics team.

[grasswire]

110. why does she need a larger entourage?

??

[Bread and Circus]

113. Right now she has a secret service team by default... not sure why Bernie doesn't though

[rbrnmw]

205. She has had Secret Service since 1992

She will have them for life.

[Bread and Circus]

206. That makes sense.

[bahrbearian]

208. Thats some entourage (with 4 passengers and 2 crew)

2 tons of Co2, Hillary "Iran is Americas greatest threat"
Bernie "Global Warming is our greatest threat" Maybe Hillary was using the plane for a bombing run on Iran.

[Art_from_Ark]

154. Commercial flights are going to fly regardless of who the passengers are

Someone who takes a regularly-scheduled commercial flight is adding very little to the carbon footprint that would otherwise be made by that plane.

[bigtree]

13. not 'carbon-spewing?'

...you're making a class argument, not an environmental one.

[cantbeserious]

21. No - One Is Making Both Arguments - HRC Is Guilty On Both Accounts

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[pipoman]

23. the carbon per person is dramatically lower on commercial planes

It is hypocrisy

[bigtree]

51. hypocrisy is giving Sanders a pass

...for a practice he'll never be able to sustain in the presidency.

[pipoman]

96. I haven't seen anyone deny that they need to travel

Only pointing out the hypocrisy of accepting an environmental award, then hopping a plane that produces 20 times the carbon per person than a less pompous alternative...

[brush]

32. But doesn't it "spew carbon" also?

What an unfair OP.

Like Bernie is traveling in a VW bus or something.

Stick to real issues, folks, to differentiate Bernie from Hillary.

[99th_Monkey]

36. The amount of carbon being spewed PER PERSON is much less, and you know it.

but don't let that get in the way of your mockery.

[brush]

41. It's worth mocking. Stick to real issues not repug-like talking points.

[Rogue Democrat]

49. Issues such as being a hypocrite when receiving the endorsement of LCV

then to fly on a private plane instead of commercial.

[brush]

62. It's silly. If I may paraphrase Jay-Z: There are 99 ways to differentiate Sanders but this ain't one

[99th_Monkey]

50. Give me a break. Since when do RePugs give a rats ass about carbon-spewing?

Since never.

Environmental Groups and activists do, or are supposed to.

[brush]

55. When it comes to Hillary that's when.

[doc03]

193. Does that town even have a commercial airport?

[cantbeserious]

194. Does That Town Have Bus Terminal - Chances Are Yes

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[doc03]

196. Many small towns don't have either I haven't ever been there I don't know. That is something the

right wing hacks worry about I don't care.

[cantbeserious]

203. If Not A Bus Terminal - Surely A Bus Stop

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[99th_Monkey]

11. Yes Sander flies commercial, on coach seats.

[bigtree]

17. are they not 'carbon-spewing?'

...the subject of the op?

[Bread and Circus]

35. But one guy (and a few of his team) out of 236 is a big difference than a having your own jet

He is sharing the fuel.

You should recognize the difference.

[99th_Monkey]

37. +100 nt

[bigtree]

46. so he pollutes less, in this case, by flying commercial. Not exactly a badge of honor.

...something which he'll never be able to do as president.

[Bread and Circus]

115. It is ok to concede an inch sometimes.

[Hekate]

147. Sanders either teleports or walks on water, depending on the weather.

It's amazing what that man can accomplish on a shoestring budget.

[in_cog_ni_to]

159. He could walk on water and Hillpack would scream "Bernie can't swim!" n/t

[ronnykmarshall]

4. You need to contact the Secret Service with your concerns.

This is so fucking lame.

[Evergreen Emerald]

6. I am stunned at this attack

I cannot believe this right wing crap is spewed on DU. Disgusting.

[cantbeserious]

9. Facts Are Facts - HRC Is A Member Of The 1% Establishment - And She Acts Like It

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[Evergreen Emerald]

14. I think this is the straw that broke the camels back for me

I am so angry at the idiocy of this attack. And how low you have sunk to make it. This is straight out of the RW playbook and used constantly against Al Gore when he attempts to bring climate change to the forefront and used against Obama when he attempts at educate Americans on the threat to us because of what we are doing to the earth. This is ignorant Rush Limbaugh level.

Ugly ugly stuff. On a democratic board. Shakes head in disbelief.

[cantbeserious]

19. So Say You - Others See The World Much Differently

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[Evergreen Emerald]

26. Bullshit

Your attempt to distinguish Sanders' use of Energy to Hillary's shows that this is just more RW attacks against an exceptional Democrat. It is an ugly disingenuous attack. And you should delete it.

[cantbeserious]

29. My My - How We Have Sunk To Such Crass Language - Others Take The High Road - Too Sad

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[Evergreen Emerald]

33. There is no high road in this thread

And it is stunning to me that you have absolutely no shame. Completely self unaware. I am done talking to you...it is evident that you have no idea.

[cantbeserious]

39. It Is Tragic That Some Choose To Ignore Reality - One Is Truly Saddened By That Fact

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[JTFrog]

40. You have taken no high roads with your canned one liners. n/t

[cantbeserious]

43. We See That A Sensitive Nerve Has Been Stimulated - Sad That Some Are Unable To See The Truth

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[ronnykmarshall]

185. "We" see?

You have a mouse in your pocket?

[Renew Deal]

97. Actually the article itself states that it's a RW attack

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=801265

[cantbeserious]

103. Matters The Facts - Matters Not The Source

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[Renew Deal]

105. The fact is that it's RW BS

[riversedge]

155. Using RW vile sources against a Democrat is WRONG and you know it.

[ronnykmarshall]

187. To paraphrase the previous posters other replies:

"We" don't care.

[Sheepshank]

28. I clearly remember the Republicans using this very same arguement against Gore

And that this OP uses RW tactics and is being upheld as a bastion of truth is fucking disgusting. These posters should be ashamed of themsleves.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

85. not

no RW tactics.

[Sheepshank]

89. Of course it is....no point in denying the op

it's a right wing tactic the RW used against another Dem..... You borrowed from the playbook.

[Sheepshank]

92. No point in trying to change the narrative. It's obvious.

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it's a right wing tactic the RW used against another, Gore..... You borrowed from the playbook.

[JTFrog]

174. Yes it is obvious RW tactics. DU used to be able to recognize shit like this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024292545

It seems that hatred of all things Clinton is clouding some folks judgment. This kind of attack is not constructive criticism in any way shape or forum. It's regurgitated right wing hate.

[NBachers]

151. Yeah! And don't forget about the outragis Nancy Pelosi Airplane Scandle!

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2011/01/29/millionaire-nancy-pelosi-used-taxpayer-funded-jet-to-the-end/

[cherokeeprogressive]

107. THIS post, typed over THAT graphic in your sig line, makes me guffaw like a fucking banshee.

[Renew Deal]

56. She should have rode a mule

Just like the rest of us.

[cantbeserious]

61. How About Commercial - Like Bernie - One Suspects She Is Too Good To Sit With The Hoi Polloi

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[Renew Deal]

63. A mule is more what all true Democrats should drive

[cantbeserious]

65. Maybe You Can Convince HRC To Lead By Example

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[Renew Deal]

70. I thought all good examples only came from Bernie

Let him step up.

[cantbeserious]

80. Bernie Already Demonstrates Leadership By Flying Commercial Coach

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[rbrnmw]

207. No most likely

Her secret service detail won't allow her to fly commercial.

[JTFrog]

148. It all sounds so familiar doesn't it?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024292545

There was a time that DU could recognize right wing attacks for what they were. I guess those days are long gone.

[cantbeserious]

210. Not an Attack - Recognition Of One 1% Member Conveying Themselves In 1% Chariots

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[JTFrog]

212. Or maybe not many practical options for a former first lady with lifetime secret service protection.

I don't think it has much to do with 1%. That's the kind of made up shit the Republican mouthpieces throw out there as red meat to their voters. The Republicans attacked Michelle Obama for the same thing and most people here on DU defended Michelle Obama against those shitty Republican attacks.

But those who hate Hillary embrace those Republican attacks. No amount of one liners is going to keep people from seeing these tactics embraced by some DUers.

[cantbeserious]

213. A Handy Excuse - One That Reinforces The Privileged Class To Which HRC Now Belongs

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[Cosmocat]

156. And bernistas

Get all up in arms when you note that they sound like republicans ...

Im goting for him and want to smash things when I come here.

[Fred Sanders]

201. RW memes disguised as concern for the environment...it is laughably obvious.

Like "why does she have secret service and want gun control?", childish rantings like that.

The amount of illogical and disconnected thinking that goes into this kind of mindset should be unwelcome at DU.....but low-level thinkers require entertainment also, to their level, so this is kind of like what Trump does...entertaining the thoughts of the less gifted.

[99th_Monkey]

10. Meanwhile, Bernie waits for his coach seat in the airport -nt-

[Rosa Luxemburg]

16. He stays in motels

[bigtree]

25. as opposed to those 'carbon-spewing' hotels

...I stayed at a Holiday Inn my last vacation. Pure evil.

[darkangel218]

30. Seriously??? Thats all you got out of the comparison?

[bigtree]

52. motels vs. planes?

[darkangel218]

53. Try a bit harder..

I have faith in you

[Rosa Luxemburg]

67. LOL! Oligarchs don't stay in Motel 6s

[bigtree]

72. who the fuck aspires to stay at a Motel 6?

...is that now part of the progressive platform, only staying at dingy motels?

I must have missed the memo.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

76. Where does O'Malley stay?

[bigtree]

82. who fucking cares?

...I hope he stays where he feels comfortable.

[darkangel218]

95. Those of us who care for the poor and middle class,

Those who can't afford the expensive hotels.

[bigtree]

98. this is a specious argument

...staying at hotels has zero to do with caring about 'poor people' who can't afford them.

[darkangel218]

93. Those who don't care about money and luxury!!!

There are many Americans living way worse than the conditions in a Motel 6.

Bernie is actually setting an example. He fights for the poor and middle class.

I can't believe you are actually asking that question!!!!

[bigtree]

101. it's little more than political theater

...for the actual effect it has on the lives of the less fortunate.

[darkangel218]

102. Political theater???

So being truthful and walking the walk is "political theater" to you???

Holy fuck!!!

[bigtree]

104. it helps no one

...except, possibly, his political aspirations, and your own petty politics in this thread.

Pretending you're just like other disadvantaged Americans by staying at a motel is just political posturing, nothing more.

[darkangel218]

111. "Petty politics"..

I suggest you take your personal attacks elsewhere. They're sickening.

[bigtree]

114. you're easily 'sickened'

...apparently immune to this petty political attack on Clinton.

You're certainly not above using 'poor people' as a political prop in this discussion. But, I'm the one who's 'sickening' in rejecting all of that. Got it.

[darkangel218]

116. What you see as "attacks" on Mrs Clinton, coming from the left, are mostly if not entirely facts.

I like facts and the truth to prevail above politicians getting rich and/or favoring the 1%. Do you not?

[bigtree]

119. another diversion

...this started as an environmental criticism.

Chagrined by the inanity of that, I suppose, you diverted to a class argument.

Now you want to stretch your shifting attack on Clinton to the broader opposition to her candidacy.

I'm not playing this with you anymore. It's a sad farce.

[darkangel218]

120. I feel the same about you.

Have a great night.

[bigtree]

68. can't

...this thread is making me dumber, the more responses I read.

[darkangel218]

69. Lol OK.

[darkangel218]

22. +1 million!!!

[LuvLoogie]

12. There is probably an even greater footprint

when you consider the acompanying fighter jets and dedicated radar and satellite taskings. Her bearers are kept in air-conditioned condos, but they will fly commercial to the next destination where she will be feted with dolphin steak and hearts of palm while she wipes her hands on the garments of the servant children.

[cantbeserious]

211. The 1% Taking Care Of Themselves

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[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. "O K"

EOM

[darkangel218]

18. How typical of her.

Almost expected.

[ronnykmarshall]

168. The expected foot stomping

of how "easy" it would be for Hillary and her Secret Service agents to just hop on a commercial flight.

[Sheepshank]

198. I'm absolutely positive the accompanying passengers would fully enjoy

the extra security, screening, background checks, luggage inspections, pat downs, delays for 200+, being held back for the special boarding and disembarking and the heightened risk for flight interferance and safety, inherant in her position that required the SS in the first place. So fine.

[virgogal]

27. "Do as I say,not as I do" candidate.

[cantbeserious]

44. ^^^ This ^^^

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[drray23]

42. is she supposed to hitch hike to her next campaign stop?

This kind of nonsense reminds me of the GOP criticism of Al Gore and his house. Despicable.

[darkangel218]

54. No. Use cheap commercial flights.

Why pollute more??

[NanceGreggs]

137. You DO understand ...

... that taking a commercial flight would mean extra security at the airport and on-board, having to accommodate her SS detail, pre-screening of other passengers booked on the same flight, chaos at the air terminal with crowds gathering for a look-see, and the media arriving with their crews and gear in tow?

HRC taking "a cheap commercial flight" would inconvenience thousands of travelers - but then there could be a dozen OPs about how that selfish 1%er created havoc at two airports today because she was too cheap to get her own plane, and instead chose to let the "little people" suffer delays and/or missed flights due to the chaos she created.

Yeah, Hill - ya gotta go with those "cheap commercial flights". It's SO much better for everyone all around.

[darkangel218]

138. Commercial flights are actually a lot safer.

Go read the stats.

[NanceGreggs]

140. It has nothing to do with ...

... whether they're "safer".

Do you honestly think HRC should disrupt two airports every time she travels?

[darkangel218]

141. Are you saying that the TSA are not doing their job right now??

How would she disrupt the airports???
It's well known that commercial flights are safer for politicians than private ones.

[NanceGreggs]

142. I posted all of the reasons above.

And HRC is not "another politician" in that she has a SS detail - and that means extra security, and accommodations to be made to satisfy their mandate.

[darkangel218]

143. Extra security . it can all be done on commercial jets.

I guess that's the reasons she is using only high class hotels as well. So I won't bother to ask.

[NanceGreggs]

144. You really DON'T GET IT ...

... do you?

[darkangel218]

157. Lmao!!!!!

Standard answer.

[mythology]

172. That would be a no

This is a really silly attack.

[ronnykmarshall]

167. It's like talking to a kid throwing a tantrum.

How ironic these right wing screeching points are being thrown around here.

[NanceGreggs]

175. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact ...

... that people actually don't know what would be entailed if Hillary traveled on commercial flights.

It's mind-boggling, to say the least!

[ronnykmarshall]

200. I never knew we has so many security experts in here.

I wish they would share their plans with the Secret Service.

IF she did they would put in arms that it was just "another Clinton stunt" or "copying Bernie's lead" or some other horse shit.

[treestar]

161. Yep, this is just like

the right wing attacks on the Obamas for Michelle and the girls taking AF1 to Hawaii at Christmas and then Barack taking it again a few days later, having stayed in DC longer to work. Right wingers claiming it cost the taxpayer so damn much, that they should have taken commercial airlines. Petty right wing attacks which the slightest common sense shows to be groundless.

[ronnykmarshall]

169. are you going to tell us your plans

for the security?

[yeoman6987]

199. How do you know whether she'd be on time if she went commercial?

Perhaps the schedule is tight.

[darkangel218]

202. Bernie manages it just fine.

Why couldn't she?

[yeoman6987]

204. Perhaps she is busier since she is front runner. I don't know but this is such a little thing

[Renew Deal]

59. No, she should ride a donkey

Like St Bernie of Burlington

[1StrongBlackMan]

47. I must say ...

this is the silliest attack OP, I have seen in a while ... And some of the comments have made me laugh out loud.

Thanks.

[NBachers]

153. Yup- I got a laugh out loud over St. Bernie of Burlington

Worth wading down the cesspool of dreck to mine that little gem.

[NanceGreggs]

48. Apparently Hillary's campaign ...

... is doing extremely well!

You can always tell how well she's doing by the number of anti-HRC OPs on DU - and the more ludicrous the topic of poutrage, the better she's obviously doing!

So thanks for the update on Hill's current success - oh, and thanks for the laughs, too!!!

[Metric System]

57. Does Bernie ride unicorns?

[darkangel218]

60. No. Bernie is riding coach in commercial flights!!

But you already knew that.

[gordyfl]

87. Bernie's frugal

I like the fact that Bernie flies coach and stays at inexpensive motels. I read they sometimes buy used office furniture for some of their headquarters offices. They also used a U-Haul to pick up the furniture.

It's makes me feel assured that when I donate to Bernie's campaign, or buy a T-shirt from his campaign store, my donation is being well spent.

[darkangel218]

91. Same here.

He's never let us down.
I wish America will not miss the chance of having this amazing, genuine man, as our POTUS.

We can only hope that the best interest of American people will overcome the oligarchy shenanigans.

[Art_from_Ark]

130. Reminds me of Jimmy Carter

Carter certainly tried to diminish his carbon footprint at the White House by turning down thermostats, installing solar panels (which Idiot Reagan removed just to spite Carter), even walking from the Inauguration site to the White House, rather than riding in a motorcade.

And Carter wasn't too crazy about the trappings of oligarchy.

[okasha]

129. Unlikely,

since he's a father.

[pinstikfartherin]

133. Yep!

They poop rainbows, inhale carbon dioxide and release oxygen, and have their own Union!

This OP is silly.

[Codeine]

58. Change "Hillary" to "Gore" and it's like I'm

lurking JimRob's filthy little shithole four or five years ago all over again.

[tammywammy]

121. +a million

[JTFrog]

150. ^^this^^ n/t

[Blues Heron]

64. 1/2 ton per hour not 2 tons

At 5 lbs carbon per gallon jet fuel, and 200 gallons per hour avg.that's 0.5 tons carbon per hour spewed, not 2 tons.

[darkangel218]

74. 0.5 tones per hour of unnecessary pollutant,

Do the math!

Why can't she ride commercial like the other D candidates??

[Blues Heron]

77. I don't know! I'm just a fact checker! n/t

[darkangel218]

83. Well then.

Your fact checking this time really makes no huge difference. Wish it did, but it doesn't. She's burning fuel (which releases pollutants) unnecessarily. There is no harm in riding commercial. Safer also.

[JonLeibowitz]

99. I never mind a fact-check.

It is appreciated. And I am a sanders supporter.

[okasha]

131. It would be a bit difficult

to meet Secret Service requirements on a commercial flight. A couple guys carrying sniper rifles on board would probably upset the other passengers just a wee bit.

[gordyfl]

66. Fossil Fuel Industry & Hillary Clinton

Meet the Fossil Fuel Lobbyists Raising Money for Hillary Clinton

Nearly all of the lobbyists bundling contributions for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's campaign have at one time or another worked for the fossil fuel industry.

The issue of campaign donations from fossil fuel interests has become a topic in the Democratic Party primary, as both Sen. Bernie Sanders and Martin O'Malley have pledged they will not accept contributions from oil, gas or coal companies. Clinton has not signed that pledge.

The more she flies, the more profits for her donors.


http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/07/hillary-clinton-bundlers-fossil-fuel-lobbyists

[WillyT]

71. What Happened To That Little Van She Was In The First Week Of Her Campaign ???

[BlueCheese]

75. And Obama is flying around on Air Force One.

I'm sorry, this is silly.

[bigtree]

79. and Bernie aspires to do the same

...unless I missed something in his platform about grounding AF1.

[Fawke Em]

78. Let Hillary be Hillary.

[Renew Deal]

84. Looks like some people here are the tools of a "conservative opposition research group"

From the article:

America Rising, a conservative opposition research group, shot the video Tuesday night from inside the civil aviation terminal in the town of Lebanon, a stone's throw from Dartmouth College.

'Hillary Clinton's hypocritical campaign has hit a new low' the group's communications director Jeff Bechdel told DailyMail.com.

Looks like a few people here fell for it again.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

86. nice try

what is Hillary's opinion of fracking?

[Renew Deal]

88. It's a RW attack and you fell for it.

It's ok to admit it.

[bigtree]

90. or using the orchestrated conservative attack as a stepstool

...for their own petty politics.

[GusBob]

106. Tools is the perfect word

[Rogue Democrat]

94. She could have flown commercial

Flights are available from Lebanon, NH to White Plains, NY or Boston, served by Cape Air.

[Beacool]

100. I knew that this came from the RW Daily Mail before I even read the article.

Your concern is duly noted. I'll send Hillary an e-mail suggesting that she travel by bicycle from now on.

[GusBob]

108. It's worse than that

See post 84

[Beacool]

118. Yes, I saw it.

I have been saying for a while now that this site has become a joke and it's precisely because it has ceased to be Democratic. People have a right to support whichever candidate they prefer, but the continuous use of RW talking points and articles is disgusting.

Therefore, I come here for the laughs. I know that someone will have posted a hand wringing article from some RW source about Hillary. It happens on a daily basis. I frankly can't make-up my mind who dislikes her more, if conservatives or the far Left.

[Bleacher Creature]

112. Al Gore has a big house!!!

Is this crap for real? This is straight from the RW playbook.

[darkangel218]

117. He's not running anymore.

Irrelevant.

[Bleacher Creature]

123. Huh? Try Google if you don't get it.

This is recycled RW garbage. It's the same stuff they have been using against Gore for years. Except in that case people weren't reposting it to DU as a legitimate argument.

[darkangel218]

124. I care not to Google crap from the past.

Hillary needs to walk the walk if she talks the talk. Just like Bernie said it.

I'm tired of doubled faced candidates.

[Hekate]

146. Isn't the Daily Mail one of Rupert Murdoch's rags?

And yeah, it is straight out of the RW playbook.

[Cheese Sandwich]

122. I get why top presidential candidates fly private, but Hillary is royalty,she files like that always

Even when she's not running for president. She's been flying private since she was on the board of Walmart. As First Lady of Arkansas she got free rides on Walmart jets.

I think it would be great if someone would loan Bernie a private jet for the campaign. Like maybe one of those ice cream billionaires, or a movie star.

The problem for Hillary is it plays into the whole image of the Clintons as aristocrats who are totally out of touch with the commoners.

[bigtree]

125. optics?

[davidn3600]

128. Celebrities, the 1%, and politicians think they can use all the carbon they want

These folks have never lived under the same rules as the rest of us.

[darkangel218]

132. + 1 million

[Romulox]

192. Yep. And their sycophants will tear you apart for mentioning it. nt

[oasis]

134. Hello, we're trying to win here. She's focused on more impotant issues.

The results will be tremendously rewarding. You'll see.

[davidn3600]

149. Issues more important than climate change?

Tell that to your grandchildren

[McCamy Taylor]

135. You wanted her to do what? Ride on a broom? Hitch a ride?

[McCamy Taylor]

136. This thread smacks of desperation.

Either that or the anti-Clinton people are not really trying. Maybe they secretly support Clinton and so they are trying to use up valuable anti-Clinton time with stuff like this that is not going to change anyone's mind.

[darkangel218]

139. Only in your mind. nt.

[Hekate]

145. The horror, the horror.

[Live and Learn]

152. The environment is obviously not a priority for Hillary.

She will need to spend a lot of time (we don't have) to research it (read: pay think tanks) and discuss it (read: media and polls) to decide how to proceed.

[treestar]

160. Who gives a shit?

Good grief. Let's ground all air traffic now!

I hope Bernie never flies or drives a car.

[yardwork]

162. I would expect to see this on FreeRepublic.

[FSogol]

165. Yup, disgusting to see RW crap being spread around DU. n/t

[MineralMan]

163. Oh, for pity's sake!

This does not matter to anyone. Candidates fly around the country, one way or another. There's not always a commercial flight available to match a particular schedule.

I don't think more than a handful of voters give a damn how candidates travel. Truly.

[JoePhilly]

171. The Combustible Hair Club again demonstrating its inability to focus on ...

... real issues.

When you start stealing your attacks from the Tea Party, you've inadvertently declared to the world that you're done.

You've got nothing left. Nothing but manufactured outrage.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

173. Bumper sticker campaing slogan: If You Got It Flaunt It

[jmondine]

176. I am a Bernie supporter, but this just feels like a straw man argument.

Exactly how much of a percentage of our global carbon output is private jets? Two tons of carbon per hour sounds like a lot, but how much is that in a global perspective?

[randys1]

177. I KNOW I saw this on a rightwing board today

[giftedgirl77]

180. Judging by the shit I've seen here lately it's hard to tell the difference.

[randys1]

181. That is the point, of course.

Now it is true there is an occasional thread attacking Bernie for something ridiculous, but of course it is 100-1 the other way.

[giftedgirl77]

184. Lolololololol, be careful what you say the perpetual victims

will come out with eleventy million nuh huhs & start complaining about haircuts & that time when HRC skipped down the road without filing the proper paperwork with "true liberals" first.

[giftedgirl77]

179. Haters, this shit is getting really stupid.

[ronnykmarshall]

183. Oh it's going get worse

This is the tip of the iceberg.

Vince Foster's death will be on the play list soon.

[giftedgirl77]

186. Absolutely rediculous. This place is turning into a joke.

[Romulox]

182. She "evolved" on the issue after collecting the endorsement. nt

[AgingAmerican]

189. Yep

[AgingAmerican]

188. 203 gallons of jet fuel per hour

http://jetadvisors.com/bombardier-learjet-60/

[demosincebirth]

195. Big deal! Petty as petty can be.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

209. LOL!

[DFW]

214. Shame on her for not taking a solar-powered jst

Or at least one driven by wind turbines. I mean, really......

[ProudToBeLiberal]

215. So, why the double standard against Hillary Clinton?

It has been reported that Bernie Sanders is using private charter gulfstream jet to get to his events. I expect some apologies from Bernie Sander supports.