Three things my fellow Sanders supporters could do to make things less toxic here

[Ken Burch]

1) Don't assume HRC supporters aren't progressive. It's alright to politely ask how they square backing the establishment candidate with being progressive, but ask those questions with respect.

2) Ease back on the alert-swarming. Better to disprove the arguments made by HRC supporters(which is fairly easy to do most of the time) than to reflexively seek to close threads, even inflammatory ones.

3) Get it straight on the "Bernie and race" arguments. They aren't calling Bernie a racist, they are saying he hasn't said enough on racial issues. And not everyone saying this is an HRC supporter. A significant number are uncommitted PoC voters that we can still win over, but in communicating on that, we need to make it clear that we never sound like we are shouting anyone down. It is
perfectly natural for PoC to be sensitive to anything that makes it sound like race as an issue is being put on the backburner.

(also, stop calling them "Hillbots". It's childish and doesn't help).

If Bernie does get nominated, we are going to need HRC voters to come over to us with enthusiasm. We will need the kind of ,mass support among PoC we haven't yet generated. If we go into Philly without the votes to get nominated, we will at least need enough goodwill from HRC's campaign to get our ideas included in the platform in a significant way. The tone we take here over the next several months will determine whether either is possible.

[lovemydog]

1. Thank you.

I k & r'ed both your posts. It's fine to argue your points and be passionate about your candidate. I don't like seeing people burn bridges though, not with each other here.

[pnwmom]

2. Thanks. Good points here and in your other post about Clinton supporters. n/t

[noiretextatique]

3. nonsense eom

[Scuba]

4. You think it's only Bernie's supporters that do the "alert swarming"?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251801986

[Android3.14]

5. Your costume is slipping

[Ken Burch]

6. I have no costume. I've been for Bernie since the get-go. n/t.

[peacebird]

7. Agree, but you should really have asked HRC supporters to ease up on alert swarming as well

They have been quite active in that area

[99Forever]

8. "Alert swarming" you say Ken?

Which candidate's supporters have been busted red handed plotting doing that, Ken? Which candidate's supporters DO that?

Give me a fucking break.

[NorthCarolina]

9. I doubt you'll see many HRC voters backing Bernie if he wins the nod.

Fiscal conservatives are not going to vote for a Democratic Socialist, period. He will give "free stuff" to freeloaders don't ya know...and would even pay for Trumps kids to go to College! Nope, not gonna happen.

[Cosmocat]

10. I am a hillary supporter

and am voting for Bernie because he is more right on the issues ...

I see FAR more Bernistas declaring that they will sit it out if if Hillary gets the nod.

[yardwork]

11. Bullshit. More craven attacks.

And I'm not a fiscal conservative. What a filthy crummy post.

[NorthCarolina]

16. Well, if you are NOT a

fiscal conservative, know that a vote cast for Hillary is a vote FOR fiscal conservatism.

[Codeine]

13. Oh seriously, fuck that shit.

"Fiscal conservatives" my ass. Some of y'all are getting downright silly now.

[Bobbie Jo]

14. Case in point. nt

[Kalidurga]

12. Thank you someone has to hand out an olive branch

We should send them a fruit basket too. I hear eating fruit can uplift people's moods. Oh send ourselves one too now that I think about it.

[jeff47]

15. There's a problem with #3

Their candidate has said even less. In addition, their candidate is the only one so far to turn to the police to remove BLM activists.

So...we should advance a lie in order to "make things less toxic"?

[yardwork]

17. I appreciate your edit about hillbots, but the posts here are worse.

Really, the impact of this thread is negative. I'm sure that was not your intent. I think it shows the depth of the problem among supposed Bernie supporters.