2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary proposes "embedding" US troops in Iraq and increasing US troops in Syria.
Escalation and expansion of US involvement. She wants to creep the mission before she's won a single primary.
Let me get out in front of this idiocy. No troops in Iraq or Syria.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
reformist2
(9,841 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)while we send in our men (and women) to fight and die in ground combat in their place? Fuck that. Seriously. No.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)American troops on the ground, then the first ground troops killed, which provokes more outrage, and then escalation. The first American beheaded gets Repubs promoting to nuke them, and then mistakes get made, war crimes out of vengeance.
Just thought after the Iraq War we'd seen enough of this crap for 20-30 years.
and here's how they're going to pay for it.
1. Cut entitlements.
2. A national gas tax increase because poor folks don't mind paying a higher percentage of their income on taxes than wealthy people do.
3. Debt increase
4. A tax cut for the wealthy because that will stimulate the economy
5. And then they'll be somebody try to advocate patriotic war bonds.
Don't like the way this is being played out politically.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)we have to WIN!!" escalation, until we have Camp Whatever over here and Camp Whozit over there, and contractors building facilities and providing services, and billions going to whatever government we can prop up, and pallets of cash going to pay bribes for a new "Sunni Awakening" (I fully expect to see that assclown Petraeus again, with Hillary), and so on... I don't see any way off this train. But this time, it will go better, and she and the neocons will reap the glory of a war done right!!! At least that's the plan.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Thinking like that is what got us into this mess in the first place. I suspect Uncle Dick is real proud.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)onecaliberal
(32,878 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Is go back in.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)We are doomed if we elect her.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)How anyone apart from the MIC could think that's a good idea is a mystery to me.
azmom
(5,208 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)We lose the election, because DWS/Hillary have decided that she will run on name recognition and right wingism.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)zalinda
(5,621 posts)Bin Laden got taught and the leader of ISIS? WE taught them. Yeah, let's do that again, maybe it will turn out differently.
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merkins
(399 posts)MattSh
(3,714 posts)And perfectly creepy at the same time.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)i almost bashed my ipad into the wall upon seeing his snarling, demonic wretched image
arrgghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
vile seething monster puke puke
artislife
(9,497 posts)moobu2
(4,822 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)riversedge
(70,265 posts)a Democratic candidate on a Dem board.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)So Republicans are highlighting similarities between Hillary's and Cheney's foreign policies? I doubt that.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)In the past, I've found it challenging to have coherent exchanges with people like that. Also, keep in mind that many of these posters appear to be getting their cut-and-paste talking points directly from RW sites.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Eric Fehrnstrom is a former journalist and political consultant who was a top aide to 2012 U.S. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney. Fehrnstrom was the strategist to US Senator Scott Brown who was responsible for the ads that propelled him to victory in the 2010 Special Election to succeed Ted Kennedy,
That's all you need to know.
Original editorial link: (Intentionally not clickable, add the "http" part and assemble it yourself.)
www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/11/18/hillary-clinton-dick-cheney-democratic-party/eaepFIflB6f5ELorsVUDdO/story.html
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)John Poet
(2,510 posts)then they might as well be a Republican.
I don't want a Democratic president wrecking what's left of our party with that kind of nonsense.
reddread
(6,896 posts)ever again. turn the corner, America.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)of we are going to go to war, the congress needs to have the balls to declare war.
no more sneaking it under the iraq aumf bullshit
morningfog
(18,115 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)that any chickenhawk who votes for a new aumf will be voted out/primaried. aumfs just give the pres an option for endless war, which of course is what darth and bush wanted all along.