So it's Supply Side Warhawk Hillary now? I guess Progressive Clinton is so "last week."

[Armstead]

Well a few weeks ago it was Hillary the Progressive.

This week she's out criticizing taxes to pay for liberal social programs. And rattling the sabres now that the nation's is currently in Terror24/7 mode (at least for now).

Amazing how that "I'm the real progressive" stuff got shed. So what's on the plate next week in the ever-shifting message?

[MisterP]

1. next week she'll be the lefty candidate again, and will always have been

that's how it works, Armstead

[ruffburr]

2. Hillary-

Changes her positions more often than she changes her pant suits, She is a Third Way Democrat not a Progressive by any stretch of the imagination.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

3. Evolution has no direction.

No up/down, backwards/forwards, left/right, higher/lower.

It adapts to different environments.

Sometimes it's wrong.

[MisterP]

5. sometimes it produces an heir that's too inbred to walk or talk on their own

IIRC they had to pry him off the chambermaids a lot, too

[WillyT]

4. K & R !!!

[arcane1]

6. "We have always been at war with East Asia" n/t

[Doctor_J]

7. let me put it in perspective

She's been lying. Now the phony populist is gone

The ge might be tough without the bernistas, and she and her mob have gone to great lengths to insult them, belittle them, and lie to and about them. Interesting times.

[nc4bo]

8. Totally passe. Like someone farted and sped out that room. nt

[Fumesucker]

9. Reminds me of this cartoon from 2012

[Ino]

10. Paris gave Hillary a new bandwagon to jump on...

always chasing a trend, isn't she? A true leader!

[BainsBane]

11. tax cuts for the poor are demand side

Good God.

[Armstead]

13. Yes I know that -- Can't you accept a little Clinton style hyperbolie?

Let's just say she is riding the anti-tax bandwagon and using the GOP tactic of "no taxes are good" and exploiting the fear of that to and distort the perception and scuttle valid social programs.

[BainsBane]

16. The hyperbole here

is so far beyond Clinton's it's not even funny. And you just admitted your claim about supply side was false.

She isn't scuttling social programs. She proposes raising taxes on the wealthy and cutting them for the poor and lower-middle class. WTF is this even about?
If you're talking about Syria, Bernie was totally on board with that during the debates. They both support coalition-based military intervention.

[BlueCheese]

34. Not raising taxes on the middle class has been her position forever.

I actually disagree with making such a blanket statement, but it is what it is.

The criticism on this issue is borne out of willful ignorance, and indicates a desire to believe the worst, regardless of the evidence. It's the kind of fact-free adherence to ideology that we rightfully criticize on the other side. And by the other side, I mean the Republicans, not other Democrats, in case anyone forgot.

What a damn cesspool this place has become.

[UglyGreed]

12. .

[cantbeserious]

23. This Citizen Loves That Image

eom

[sabrina 1]

14. Remember the warning from the Third Way telling her she better stop trying to

follow Bernie to the left? Guess she took it seriously for whatever reason. Those guys are SO afraid of the Left, going after Warren, Bernie, VOTERS even, coming out of the shadows lately to attack anyone who DARES to oppose their right wing policies and getting slapped down btw.

They sound so petulant, so arrogant, so nasty when they do emerge from their Wall St funded Mansions to lecture the 'little people' and to admonish their candidates of choice should they move even slightly from the right, just a teeny bit.

Saw their admonishment to Hillary recently. It sounded like a warning. When they did it to Elizabeth Warren she more or less told them to go 'stuff it'.

Hillary otoh, seems to be doing as they told her.

[AgingAmerican]

15. Her weather vane is changing directions so fast it threatens to disintegrate

Her moral compass is spinning like she's in the Bermuda triangle

[Rosa Luxemburg]

17. Is she still supporting fracking?

3, 2, 1....

[cantbeserious]

22. Maybe She Is Just Tacking For Practice - A Dry Run For POTUS

[reddread]

18. what need a Chimera evolve?

[NorthCarolina]

19. So last week? More like Never Was.

An act of desperation.

[stupidicus]

20. SHe's the Sybil candidate

will the real HC please bow out?

[cantbeserious]

21. What - The TV Told This Citizen So - It Cannot Be - Has HRC Flopper Flipped

Last edited Sat Nov 21, 2015, 07:27 PM - Edit history (1)

[sadoldgirl]

24. It is possible that she believes

that nobody will watch the next debate(s), and feels totally
as the permanent front runner.

Thus she can run already all the way to the middle.

When Bernie gets closer in his challenge, then she
might reconsider.

[tazkcmo]

27. The middle?

The only thing she's been in the middle of in the last 25 years is a major sh*t storm of one kind or another.

[Scuba]

25. Next week she'll be rolling out a new campaign slogan: "Drill, Baby, Drill"

[reformist2]

26. Hooray for Hillary, no matter what she stands for! Yayayayay!!

If Hillary wins, TEAM BLUE wins!!! What's a Democrat, anyway... or a liberal for that matter. All that matters is that our side wins!!!

[tazkcmo]

28. Guess it depends

Depends on what "our side" is.

[reformist2]

29. I'm just preparing my mind for the "1984" society we'll be moving into if Hillary wins...

I mean, I'm used to Republicans beating the drums for war - that's what they do.

But seeing Democrats beating the drums just because our guy (or gal) is president, that's going to be a lot more difficult to deal with...

[DianeK]

30. que Boy George..

chama, chama, chama chameleon!

[Major Hogwash]

31. Why does Hillary hate paying for liberal social programs?

Because they cut into her military defense budget plans.

Evidently she wants pyramids built for her in the deserts of Nevada, too.

[nilesobek]

32. Let's grab our rifles and shovels,

dive into the trenches and join the brigade! We can draft son's and daughters of rich politicians and corporatists first. I'm sure no one will object. They are surely eager to dig rifle pits, hump ammo and supplies into forbidding areas, watch their friends die and be part of one burial detail after another. Yeah rah, rah, go team. My god is bigger and better than their God...

[BlueCheese]

33. I come back for the first time in a week or more.

And I see this thread, and every comment is full of unvarnished hate for Clinton.

What the heck has happened to this place?

[ismnotwasm]

35. Sanders is not doing particularly well

And people like to pretend Democrats and Republicans are the same, and only Sanders can save us. Or something.

[HerbChestnut]

36. Hate and pointing out facts are two very different things.

If you haven't been here for a week or so then perhaps you missed it when Hillary called for a ground war against ISIS? She's also come out against single payer health care and has actively criticized the idea on the grounds that, "the middle class doesn't need a tax hike." This is the stuff that Republicans campaign on.

[BlueCheese]

37. I read the news.

Even the OP has said that this post is hyperbole.

I'm not so much talking about the positions (on which I would argue, but more pleasantly-- among other things, to say she called for an American ground war against ISIS is a huge exaggeration). But in this thread, there is a reference to Orwell's 1984, someone calling her a Chimera, a juvenile gif of a spinning weathervane, a comparison to Sybil, a reference to someone being inbred, among other things.

That's not pointing out facts-- that's outright hatred.

[HerbChestnut]

38. Or internet snark.

[BlueCheese]

39. Maybe you're right.

Maybe it's all harmless. It's just depressing to read on a board supposedly aimed at talking about Democratic issues and candidates.

I'd like to read mostly positive posts about our candidates. All of this pie-flinging makes me grumpy. Maybe it's time for another week's break.