2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTo Date Bernie has never "Pimped" for the Fracking Industry
Too Bad the same can not be said for other candidates
A trove of secret documents details the US government's global push for shale gas.
Clinton urged Bulgarian officials to give fracking another chance. According to Borissov, she agreed to help fly in the "best specialists on these new technologies to present the benefits to the Bulgarian people." But resistance only grew. The following month in neighboring Romania, thousands of people gathered to protest another Chevron fracking project, and Romania's parliament began weighing its own shale gas moratorium. Again Clinton intervened, dispatching her special envoy for energy in Eurasia, Richard Morningstar, to push back against the fracking bans. The State Department's lobbying effort culminated in late May 2012, when Morningstar held a series of meetings on fracking with top Bulgarian and Romanian officials. He also touted the technology in an interview on Bulgarian national radio, saying it could lead to a fivefold drop in the price of natural gas. A few weeks later, Romania's parliament voted down its proposed fracking ban and Bulgaria's eased its moratorium.
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron
BUT Don't give up hope folks - Now she says she is against Fracking
DOVER, N.H., July 16 (Reuters) - U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said on Thursday she would phase out extraction of fossil fuels on public lands if elected to the White House in 2016.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-fracking_55a7fdc8e4b04740a3df4b75
But don't worry folks she also issued one of the quickest about faces in political history with the very next sentence
Really ... you want to trust the future of country and our children's futures to ...
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)A good idea if you are gonna "take them on".
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)For the Commodities Futures Modernization Act whish played a big part in the financial crisis.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)she'll be pushing to sell public lands off dirt cheap to frackers, so fracking is on 'private lands'.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)I love how the Wachowski brothers illustrated an illusory reality implanted into clueless, mindless people in order to use them as domestic animals for profit in the film The Matrix:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix
Bernie 2016.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
madokie
(51,076 posts)Hillary Clinton our President we are Truly Fucked, six ways to Sunday
Granted I'll vote for her if she's the last one standing but I hope like hell that is not the case.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)If she is nominated it will be the first time in history that Democrats don't have a "Democrat" to vote for
Our choice will be
Republican A or Republican B
Could Hillary Clinton be a Republican?
http://www.the-conservative-underground.com/could-hillary-clinton-be-a-republican/
Hillary is just another term for Obama. What has he done? If you are happy with the state of our society, vote for Hillary. If you are unhappy with how things are, vote for Bernie.
If you are a crazy loon intent on pushing white supremacy, then vote RepubliCON. It's really very simple.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)A bit middle schoolish don't you think?
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Are you incapable of expressing a thought without a crass, exploitative sexual reference?
Your thread title reflects on you, you know.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)How many who do not support her, feel defining her in certain manners.
GitRDun
(1,846 posts)This OPer accused HRC of saying it's her turn in another OP. I objected. Another poster replied with Jim Messina and James Mann quotes saying it's Hillary's turn...called them flunkies and running dogs.
It seems to me that when you feel the need to get down to that base level of language what you are really saying is, "I've lost and I'm really angry about it."
Maybe it's something else, I don't know, but it sure isn't a good look. I hope they don't use that language when they engage people in the real world.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Do you even care?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Misogyny is real and very present in the world and should certainly be fought on all fronts. But to constantly call out good people for misogyny when none is intended, not even subconsciously intended, is counterproductive and a waste of time. And to call out unintended misogyny as a means of deflecting a discussion is an underhanded tactic that does not speak well of the person who employs it.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)They just don't see the nuance. They think they're scoring a hit--they don't see that it's splashing back all over their own pant legs and shoes, and they'll be walking around smelling funny and looking spotty all the live-long day.
Wonder who in the chain of command decided that term would be a good idea...or did the thread starter come up with that gem on his own?
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Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)leave it to the pros.
senz
(11,945 posts)If you can't handle the truth about Hillary's activities then perhaps you'd best not read anything outside the Hillary Group. And do not get arrogant with me, Buzz Clik.
senz
(11,945 posts)sweetie.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)"Corporations are people too" via the CU decision.
Why else would she have a SuperPac already?
To be sure, the bankers have bought stock in that corporation.
Wall Street has bought stock in that corporation.
The DLC has bought stock in that corporation.
The DNC has bought stock in that corporation.
But, I'm not buying anything she says, or buying any stock in her corporation, either.
That's why I am voting for Bernie Sanders for President of the United States!!
Boo-yah!
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Russia continues to cut off gas supplies and hold Eastern European countries hostage politically due to their need for heat.
THAT is why the United States promoted fracking. So they could get out from under Putin's thumb.
Educate yourself.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1106382/Europe-plunged-energy-crisis-Russia-cuts-gas-supply-Ukraine.html
SHRED
(28,136 posts)When did we nationalize our petroleum industry? I must have missed that.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)People in Eastern Europe should freeze to death on the whims of Russia because of elitist lefty principles here in the US?
Of all the dumb smears on Clinton this one is the epitome of extreme left elitism. It really is.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)...that fracked oil from within the USA doesn't go on the open market but rather is earmarked for eastern Europe?
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)SO true!
George II
(67,782 posts)....where does this stop?
Can't people express opinions or point out positions of candidates without being derogatory and demeaning?
Sad that political commentary has to dip to such a low, low level.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Sanders. Thank you.
George II
(67,782 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)it.
They probably don't have much in the way of a clue as to how poorly it resonates with the thoughtful among us.
It's most assuredly a bridge too far.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Think that kind of verbiage will change hearts and minds?
Likening anyone to someone who sells people, usually women, in a brutal, abusive and exploitative fashion is not the way to prosecute a winning argument...but you go on and keep taking that tack! Win yourself some friends and influence people...(not)....
senz
(11,945 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Not Pimp Enough, Bernie!
senz
(11,945 posts)and as always am in awe of your incisive verbal dexterity in defense of all that is good and honorable, dear bmus! You are a treasure.
Happy Thanksgiving, friend.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)You're all kinds of awesome!
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pimp
senz
(11,945 posts)Thanks, Tierra_y_Libertad.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Capt. Obvious
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senz
(11,945 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I thought men were pimps and women were the other word?
I don't get DU sometimes.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)And the primary victim of that pimping is Mother Earth.
For Oil Company PROFITS.
Someone should hang their head in shame.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)and part of her job was advocating his agenda. Kind of sucks to hold someone accountable for doing their job well.