Please quit threatening to not vote, or vote for a third party candidate!
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It is getting very tiresome and most of the rest of us no longer care how you vote.
If people are foolish enough to vote for the Republican nominee even though they are poor red necks, there is nothing we can do for them. If they are foolish enough to vote for a third party candidate, even though they they call themselves progressives, they are beyond help. If they decide to simply not vote, that is their right as an American citizen, though I feel tht they really don't deserve the privilege.
But make no mistake, all of these groups are on the same team intent on putting a Republican in the White House, keeping Republicans in control of the Senate, and stacking the Supreme Court with very conservative justices for the next 20 years. I have absolutely no respect for any of these people because they are selfishly putting their idealism before the good of the country.
(Sanders folks, please don't think this rant is directed at you if you have not made such threats. I like Bernie Sanders and most of the people that support him. I will vote for him if he is OUR nominee.)
As for the rest of you, I am sick and tired of the threats of some (by no means all) of the Bernie people. Do what you have to do, but please quit talking about it. Such talk is useless. It is not going to persuade one Hillary supporter to vote for Bernie in the primaries; that BS just causes us to lose all respect for you.
And don't give me that tiresome baloney about trying to scare you into voting for the Democratic nominee. Hear this, I are not trying to persuade you because if you are posting such treats I already consider you a lost cause.
Just give us a break and peddle your horse manure somewhere else.
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... encourage anyone else who has a similar problem with your posts to do the same. 
Bye!
Question: If a DU rants, and no one responds; did the ranter ever really exist? 
.....but keep trying; maybe you can sill add that distinction to your accomplishments list. 
Sanders, on the other hand, just became one out of convenience a few weeks ago.
But they think they're fooling us. 
But there must be some central clearing house, cause they keep popping up, all with just a few posts. 
... but when I click the link and view the thread, there are only 5-6 visible replies.
Proves how threatening Hillary is to them.
Never mind.
I haven't even made up my mind yet, but I certainly do not hate either Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders or Martin O'Malley. I'd be proud to cast my vote for any of them.
Every other Democrat I know feels the same way.
Freudian slip?? 
What really cracks me up is the posts from people saying that there are apparently untapped masses of supporters that have just not been "reached" yet somehow. That their numbers are legion -- LEGION!!11 -- but for reasons they are not ever able to adequately explain, they're just not being reflected in polls.
It makes no sense at all. If the polls are not truly reflective, if the polls are wrong, then on what basis are these people crowing about their alleged "legions" of unheard supporters?
Nothing more to add to your post other than...
I hope not. People will vote for whomever they want--just because there are a lot of people that do not want to support a particular candidate doesn't mean you have the right to tell people to not talk about WHY they are feeling this way. Free speech and free choice are the foundations of this country, now do your part and stop trying to undermine them.
And no, I will not support Hillary and her regan-esque bullshit. I will write in for Bernie or throw my support behind Jill Stein. So please stop with all of the whining and crying, people make choices, and they may not be your choice. But you should learn to respect the freedom of choice, because at this point, it's obvious that you don't--and that's a sad fact for our democracy.
We speak English here, dammit! 
My reaction to those posts? 
Vote however you want. Nobody cares.
Response to jeff47 (Reply #72)
That's clearly the equivalent of wanting good governance.
No, you didn't mean to be condescending or insulting at all.
Then why hurting a stranger makes you so happy?
I, too, will proudly vote for the Democratic nominee, whether s/he be Hillary, Bernie, or Martin. 
an absolute requirement to show our party ID card in order to gain membership. 
Some of us are unaffiliated leftist progressives. Some of us are former Democrats who left the party because of the New Dem take over. Some of us are Greens and Socialists.
The majority of DU members are socially progressive (without the need to have evolved), economically progressive (in the traditional FDR sense), and very strong anti-war and anti-MIC activists. The vocal minority are the neoliberals who shamed LGBT members after Obama was elected, are afraid of modest taxes for social services like damned Libertarians, and love the candidate who is as hawkish as Thatchter.
Good for you in voting straight Dem. But who I vote for or don't vote for is my choice as it is yours and theirs. There are no loyalty oaths in a functioning democracy.
DU may restrict those who do not want to vote for Clinton in the GE, but unless that member breaks the ToS, there is no legal way to ascertain how any of us voted or for whom.
Why is this so hard for so many to understand?
These attempts to force members to violate the ToS are as tiresome as the assertions that some candidate is inevitable just because it is her turn. We are still months away from the first votes of the primary and almost a year until the GE. So much can and will happen between then and now.
I loved that! Maedhros, please accept a 
And back at ya'...
Aren't Dems supposed to be the party of inclusion? In your eyes that shouldn't be happening apparently. "Vote for me or GTFO"! Ya, freedom of choice truly sucks doesn't it? lol
that if a Cajun likes you he will give you the shirt off of his back, and if he doesn't like you he will give the toe of his boot.
I am not "courting" the banning of anyone, and I don't make the rules around here and I don't enforce them. However, if someone is irritating you with what they are doing, I don't think that it is unreasonable to ask them politely to quit.
I don't know about your Cajun friends, but when I was growing up in a Cajun household, there was no particular dish that was served on Monday night. Now Friday night was different. Since good Catholics couldn't eat meat on Friday's, we had to have seafood. (Darn, what a sacrifice. )
Sometimes, my entire mother's family, all twelve of the brothers and sisters and in laws and outlaws, would get together for a boil at my grandfather's house during crawfish season. Every one chipped in and someone would would buy a couple of hundred pounds of crawfish. My uncles would build a fire in the back yard and heat water in a Number 3 wash tub over the fire until boiling. In would go the seasonings, the crab boil, the onions, the corn and potatoes. Then after they were cleaned with a water hose, in would go the live crawfish to be stirred with a boat paddle
About 20 minutes later, my uncles would pore out the water (killing still more grass). A few minutes later when any remaining water was steamed off, two men would spread the cooked crawfish over a huge table covered with newspaper and the shucking and feasting would begin.
If you saw my last name you would have no doubt that I am Cajun.
Now I'm a Yankee.
Alrighty then. I will hold on to my "Yankee" title with both hands. Please be sure to spread that around the forum - Aerows is a Yankee.
Your display of ignorance and poor character is astounding.
Surely no one could be both that ignorant and that offensive without pretense. The only conclusion is that one can draw is that you are trying to goad me into writing something you can alert on. Or you are just inherently ....... (fill in the blank)
Well, if that's what is going on, it won't work. I try to be civil to everyone, even folks like you. On the other hand, if this has been a true display of your real character and knowledge, I really feel sorry that your have to go through life that way. Have a nice day if you can.
(Goodbye)
Stop moving the damn Mason-Dixon! You friggin deep south Yankees are the worst!!!
lots of holes in this thread! Swiss Cheese Underground!
Just as the Nader voters were part of the problem in 2000.
Now, they will tell you that they are part of the solution because we have to push back against the two party system, or we have to reclaim some magical left position that we once had. Their holier than thou stance may make them feel superior or just, but it only makes them part of the problem.
We see a lot of that crap on DU today, but come next November the majority will rally around the eventual Democratic nominee because they will realize the damage that will be done by voting third party or not voting at all.
I hate the primary season on DU. It's always like this and has been since the beginning. The best thing to do is ignore the people who scream about not voting for the democrat if it is so-and-so or who advocate a third party run for candidate X. They are usually full of gas or are trolls....or both.
Serenity now!
I think all they really want is a little martyrdom. Sorry...idealism and
principles.
Meanwhile, others are trying to improve the world one step at a time
(whether that step is HC or BS), and pulling them along as dead
weight.
"Quitting" and tossing your arms up (comes off as "Arrg, fuck it *flips
chessboard*" isn't productive, and your inevitable complaining later
will sound completely empty.
In the real world, there are no "full glass" decisions.
...who doesn't believe that the World Trade Center buildings didn't fall because two large aircraft hit them.
Do they think that the country would do better under a Republican administration? Goodness knows that in 2008 there were some of us who would rather have eaten nails than vote for Obama, but when the chips were down, it was a no-brainer.
A pox on the heads of those who will take their ball home and think that there's no difference between a Republican and a Democrat in the WH.
