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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 12:16 AM Dec 2015

Bernie has no fear. That's the bonus of an honest man.

He is the candidate we don't even deserve, Democrats.

The antidote to all the years of corporatism and graft.

The remedy for an ailing America.

And he's going to win by a landslide, is my prediction.

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Bernie has no fear. That's the bonus of an honest man. (Original Post) grasswire Dec 2015 OP
That is a most remarkable trait of Bernie's .. I totally agree 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #1
I felt that way tonight when I watched him grasswire Dec 2015 #6
I hear you. nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #9
K&R for exposure. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #2
Landslide. If DU polling is any indication, you're prediction's a cinch. oasis Dec 2015 #3
As my mom used to say madokie Dec 2015 #4
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #5
This fearless man should have stepped it all up 20 years ago Sheepshank Dec 2015 #7
I disagree. I do not consider Sanders to be an honest man. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #8
C'mon maybe something besides just stated opinion daybranch Dec 2015 #10
Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #11
I really hope you're right. I'm optimistic, but not as sure as you. liberalla Dec 2015 #12
He's Batman? Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #13
Reaching out to Trump supporters is an act of fear and desperation. baldguy Dec 2015 #14
Well, he's apparently afraid of more debates Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #15
Wasn't that addressed in another thread? Vinca Dec 2015 #16
If he has no fear, he'd stand up about it - and publicly Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #17
Would you bother to watch a BS/MM debate? I wouldn't. Vinca Dec 2015 #19
As said elsewhere, it's calling the DNC bluff Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #20
I think Bernie has already called the DNC's bluff once on the data breach business. Vinca Dec 2015 #23
Yet his supporters keep calling for more debates believing he wants them Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #24
The disconnect is in your own mind... Ino Dec 2015 #25
You really think the DNC would then have a debate with only HRC? That makes no sense. FSogol Dec 2015 #18
I agree. Landslide wins in the Primaries and then the GE. in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #21
K&R nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #22
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #26
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
1. That is a most remarkable trait of Bernie's .. I totally agree
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 02:02 AM
Dec 2015

he takes my breath away sometimes, when I hear how directly & honestly he speaks,
without any detectable tinge of fear., pandering, or pretense.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
6. I felt that way tonight when I watched him
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 02:37 AM
Dec 2015

.....and I trembled a bit for his safety. How can the oligarchs not try to destroy him?

madokie

(51,076 posts)
4. As my mom used to say
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 02:13 AM
Dec 2015

always tell the truth and you never have to remember what you said. That is Bernie Sanders 100%

ETA: I'd like to add: Our next President btw.

America will be much better for it I might add also, hell not only America but the whole world and all its inhabitants.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
7. This fearless man should have stepped it all up 20 years ago
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 02:44 AM
Dec 2015

His biggest fear, is retiring without having made a significant impact, since marching 50 years ago.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
10. C'mon maybe something besides just stated opinion
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:46 AM
Dec 2015

I even give you the benefit of being an honest man until you give me facts demonstrating otherwise. But then maybe as a Hillary supporter you need to stay away from the fact area.

In any case thank you for your insightful and analytic comment- not!

Response to MohRokTah (Reply #8)

liberalla

(9,260 posts)
12. I really hope you're right. I'm optimistic, but not as sure as you.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 06:43 AM
Dec 2015

We may not deserve him, but boy~ do we NEED him!

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
14. Reaching out to Trump supporters is an act of fear and desperation.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 08:38 AM
Dec 2015

Trying to put the blame for your staffers' crimes on someone else is an act of fear and desperation - and dishonesty.

Trumpeting the endorsement of one super delegate as if it's the Second Coming, because it's the only one you have (vs. the 40+ your primary opponent has), is an act of fear and desperation.

Ignoring all the polls and refusing to acknowledge the uphill battle you face, not having any campaign strategy at all for after IA and NH, and believing that everything will just fall into place, to win the election, get control of Congress & pass all of your legislation, and deliver on your promises without having any plan to accomplish any of this is an act of fear and desperation - and again, dishonesty.

And spending your time running against your primary opponent, while your primary opponent is spending her time running against the GOP front-runner (the same one you're looking to draw supporters from) is an act of fear and desperation.

Vinca

(50,304 posts)
16. Wasn't that addressed in another thread?
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:27 AM
Dec 2015

If he agrees to debate MM, he loses the opportunity to debate Hillary. That wouldn't make sense.

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
17. If he has no fear, he'd stand up about it - and publicly
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:29 AM
Dec 2015

You can stick to the rules but make a point out of it. He's not doing that.

So either he's truly fine with the six-debate schedule (even if his supporters are batshit crazy about it being wrong) or he's afraid to bring it up.

Vinca

(50,304 posts)
19. Would you bother to watch a BS/MM debate? I wouldn't.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:35 AM
Dec 2015

Everyone knows what Bernie stands for and since MM has no chance of winning the nomination it would attract an audience of about zero. If Hillary isn't in the mix it's silly for Bernie to take time off the campaign trail for a debate. Your problem is with Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC, not Bernie.

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
20. As said elsewhere, it's calling the DNC bluff
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:43 AM
Dec 2015

Do you really think they'd keep either of them out of the sanctioned debates if they did it and just leave her on the stage? Seriously?

And if they did, wouldn't it cause a groundswell of support for Sanders and O'Malley in that they're standing up and are truly outsiders trying to change things?

Challenging the debate structure is pure win for Sanders.

But he's afraid to do it.

Vinca

(50,304 posts)
23. I think Bernie has already called the DNC's bluff once on the data breach business.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 12:11 PM
Dec 2015

I don't think that's why he isn't keen on nonsanctioned debates. He probably believes - as do I - that it would be a waste of valuable time when the candidates should be on the ground in the primary states connecting with the voters.

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
24. Yet his supporters keep calling for more debates believing he wants them
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 12:35 PM
Dec 2015

There's a disconnect somewhere.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
25. The disconnect is in your own mind...
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 01:25 PM
Dec 2015

Hillary is the one who is afraid of debating, but in a true projection, you claim it's Bernie who's scared The old "blame your opponent for your own shortcomings" ploy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/09/21/how-democrats-got-bogged-down-in-a-messy-dispute-over-debates/

Last spring, when negotiations between the DNC and the Dem campaigns over the debate schedule got underway in earnest, the Clinton camp’s preference was to have only four debates, one in each of the early contest states of Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina, according to a senior Democrat with knowledge of those conversations.

Asked to comment on this version of events, DNC spokesperson Holly Schulman didn’t immediately dispute it, but declined comment. A Clinton spokesperson didn’t immediately return an email. (This version comports with Politico’s reporting that the Clinton camp prefers to keep the number of debates low.)

By contrast, Martin O’Malley’s campaign wanted many more debates. DNC officials suggested to the Clinton campaign that more than four would be necessary, the senior Dem continues. The Clinton camp showed flexibility at that point, but was uncomfortable with the idea of too many debates, and ultimately agreed to six, the senior Dem says. The tone of these discussions was more along the lines of collective brainstorming, and less like aggressive haggling, this official says.


http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-dnc-debates-2016-wasserman-schultz-213667
Wasserman Schultz, who steadfastly insists she won’t budge from the plan, which was carefully negotiated with the campaigns this spring — part of a process that included convincing the Clinton camp to agree to so many debates in the first place.

FSogol

(45,527 posts)
18. You really think the DNC would then have a debate with only HRC? That makes no sense.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:32 AM
Dec 2015


It is called, "calling the bluff."
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