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daybranch

(1,309 posts)
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:45 PM Dec 2015

Is it time for O Malley to call it quits?

I do not dislike the guy but he like Trump is sucking up time that could be better used to debate issues by what are seen by almost everyone as the most viable candidates. He gets less than a third , maybe 15 to 20m percent of air time but that is 4 or 5 times the percentasge of supporters he has. With Hillary getting the lion share and O Malley getting far more exposure than his percentage of voters warrant, is it not time for Him to pull out and let Bernie and Hillary duke it out.

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Is it time for O Malley to call it quits? (Original Post) daybranch Dec 2015 OP
Get your peanuts! Get your popcorn! brooklynite Dec 2015 #1
Who? eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #2
No. He's clearly passionate about it. cali Dec 2015 #3
No! leftofcool Dec 2015 #4
No. n/t zappaman Dec 2015 #5
He needs to stay in, I think, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #6
I think he can stay as long as he wishes. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #7
If only he WERE sucking up time! elleng Dec 2015 #8
I hope he stays in. I like the mix rather than just two duking it out. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2015 #9
He can drop out after Iowa nt geek tragedy Dec 2015 #10
No. NuclearDem Dec 2015 #11
All ten of them! morningfog Dec 2015 #20
Yeah, it's a bit more than ten. NuclearDem Dec 2015 #25
It is. But what could he say to reach them that he hasn't said? morningfog Dec 2015 #40
I guess Sander supporters are like this to all candidate's supporters. one_voice Dec 2015 #37
It's just a stupid Post, nothing against O'Malley. morningfog Dec 2015 #39
I expect O'Malley to floriduck Dec 2015 #29
From a purely tactical perspective, I'm happy to have him in the race, and deny Sanders the 1-on-1 tritsofme Dec 2015 #12
It's really his choice. He deserves us to respect that at the least. HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #13
Maybe after New Hampshire. Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #14
No bigwillq Dec 2015 #15
Oh but the voters just do not know him yet. He needs the airtime and the debates. riversedge Dec 2015 #16
Now, where have I heard that before? brooklynite Dec 2015 #41
I just couldn't resist tossing that one out. riversedge Dec 2015 #44
No. BlueMTexpat Dec 2015 #17
O'Malley presents very serious policy statements. I realize that guillaumeb Dec 2015 #18
No. Koinos Dec 2015 #19
WTH? No. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #21
No. I want to hear more from him. I am okay with his air time. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #22
No way farleftlib Dec 2015 #23
I saw this on the news...yeah ok the weather sucked... Historic NY Dec 2015 #24
No. Why should he? MoonRiver Dec 2015 #26
No. n/t Agschmid Dec 2015 #27
Not with the ground game he has built in Iowa. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #28
I guess that may be the case nationally, in some polls, but in Iowa and New Hampshire StevieM Dec 2015 #32
He, like most on the Right, seem to be holding out for their Federal Matching Campaign Funds. nt TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #30
Could you explain that to me? How long do these candidates need to stay in the race in order StevieM Dec 2015 #33
Payments are made in January of the election year, and in subsequent months thereafter. TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #36
It sounds to me like a candidate is still eligible for matching funds if they suspend their campaign StevieM Dec 2015 #42
He's just taking up space. Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #31
I don't have an opinion on this one way or another. LWolf Dec 2015 #34
Yesterday I would have given an enthusiastic NO! demwing Dec 2015 #35
weird bigtree Dec 2015 #47
Maybe if the media wasn't so intent on.. one_voice Dec 2015 #38
No. eom lunamagica Dec 2015 #43
Looks like your hit and run post didn't go the way you wanted. FSogol Dec 2015 #45
I remember when Sanders supporters were complaining about a coronation bigtree Dec 2015 #46

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,858 posts)
6. He needs to stay in, I think,
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:49 PM
Dec 2015

and keep poking at Hillary. His chances of getting the nomination are virtually zero, but I think he adds some valuable ideas.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
7. I think he can stay as long as he wishes.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:50 PM
Dec 2015

Let him get a few primaries in before we ask him to step aside.

It's a long game and it hasn't really started yet.

elleng

(131,126 posts)
8. If only he WERE sucking up time!
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:52 PM
Dec 2015

You are very far from correct, in saying he gets 'maybe 15 to 20m percent of air time,' he gets virtually NO air time.

And if he did, you might recognize that he SHOULD be UP FRONT.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
11. No.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:58 PM
Dec 2015

Maybe instead of trying to convince Trump supporters, focus on convincing O'Malley supporters to switch to Sanders.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
40. It is. But what could he say to reach them that he hasn't said?
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 08:26 PM
Dec 2015

There is a larger pool from Trump's supporters. And if what Sanders says hasn't pulled MOM folks, what could?

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
29. I expect O'Malley to
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 06:57 PM
Dec 2015

flip to Hillary simply because he'll want a piece of the Clinton action. I've lost tons of respect for him based on his debate attacks and lie about Bernie not wanting to debate.

tritsofme

(17,399 posts)
12. From a purely tactical perspective, I'm happy to have him in the race, and deny Sanders the 1-on-1
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:59 PM
Dec 2015

match-up with Clinton that he wants and needs.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
14. Maybe after New Hampshire.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 06:02 PM
Dec 2015

I think this is a trial run for 2024. If so, it is in his best interest to get through the first two states and, assuming he does not do better than his polling numbers in them, to then drop out.


He could then get more air time than he does now by being interviewed during the rest of the primary season.


It isn't time yet, but it is getting close.




BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
17. No.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 06:07 PM
Dec 2015

He's stayed in this long. He should continue at least through Iowa and New Hampshire.

He has an excellent ground game in Iowa and there may be some good news there for him considering the kinds of people who generally turn out for caucuses. New Hampshire will be a harder sell, but if he does well in IA, he may get some momentum going.

But it should be his decision, not DU's.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
18. O'Malley presents very serious policy statements. I realize that
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 06:10 PM
Dec 2015

this presents a problem for O'Malley with a corporate media that specializes in sound bite coverage, but there surely is room in national discourse for rationality rather than positioning and posturing. I see O'Malley as a very viable candidate. Perhaps not in 2016, but if he keeps working and talking he could be a great President.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
19. No.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 06:26 PM
Dec 2015

He adds to the conversation.

ETA: And anything is possible for a campaigner like O'Malley in Iowa.

 

MeNMyVolt

(1,095 posts)
21. WTH? No.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 06:33 PM
Dec 2015

If IA doesn't come in well for him then maybe. You know, he does have supporters on this board, and in IA.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
23. No way
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 06:37 PM
Dec 2015

We need to hear more liberals voices, not fewer. He isn't getting the air time he deserves but quitting is not the answer.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
28. Not with the ground game he has built in Iowa.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 06:49 PM
Dec 2015

I think he is still garnering interest. The more O'Malley talks, the better for the party. Isn't he as close to Sanders as Sanders is to Clinton in many polls?

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
32. I guess that may be the case nationally, in some polls, but in Iowa and New Hampshire
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:03 PM
Dec 2015

he seems to be way back.

I think he should stay in the race until he decides the time is right to end his campaign.

I am supporting Hillary, but I like O'Malley too.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
33. Could you explain that to me? How long do these candidates need to stay in the race in order
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:06 PM
Dec 2015

to qualify for matching funds?

What is the earliest date they can drop out at if this is their goal?

TheBlackAdder

(28,216 posts)
36. Payments are made in January of the election year, and in subsequent months thereafter.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:26 PM
Dec 2015

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Once they get their first payment, which will be the largest one, they can retire their campaign in good standing.

It's justifiable to collect a check when the campaign is active, instead of attempting collection on a campaign that is ineligible or closed out. So keeping the campaign active as long as possible increases the taxpayer largesse they will receive, but it will also allow the disbural of funds received better, while taking money on a live campaign.



Partial public funding is available to Presidential primary candidates in the form of federal matching payments. Candidates seeking their party's nomination to the Presidency can qualify to receive matching funds by raising over $5,000 in each of 20 states (i.e., over $100,000). Only contributions from individuals apply toward this threshold. Although an individual may contribute up to $1,000 to a candidate, only a maximum of $250 counts toward the threshold and is matchable.1

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Candidates may present documentation to establish their eligibility for matching funds and submit matchable contributions during the year before the election is held. The first payments, however, are not made until January of the election year. From that point forward, candidates may submit additional matching fund requests and receive payments on a monthly basis. Even if a candidate is no longer actively campaigning in primary elections, he or she may continue to request matching funds to pay off campaign debts and to wind down the campaign until early in the year following the election.

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Once declared eligible for matching funds, a candidate may continue to receive payments until his or her date of ineligibility. Thereafter, a candidate may receive additional funds only to pay off campaign debts and to wind down the campaign.

Under the statute and Commission regulations, primary candidates become ineligible to receive matching funds on the earliest of the following dates:

* 30 days after the candidate fails to receive 10 percent of the votes cast in two consecutive primary elections (unless the candidate receives 20 percent or more of the vote in a subsequent primary);
* The date the candidate publicly withdraws from the race;
* The date on which the candidate notifies the Commission, or the Commission determines, that the candidate has ceased to campaign actively in more than one state;37 or
* The date on which the party nominates its candidate at the national convention



http://www.fec.gov/info/chone.htm

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
42. It sounds to me like a candidate is still eligible for matching funds if they suspend their campaign
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:57 PM
Dec 2015

As long as they don't formally end their candidacy they are still allowed to raise money. And if I am reading this right it says that candidates who are no longer campaigning, like someone whose campaign is suspended, can still collect matching funds.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
31. He's just taking up space.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:02 PM
Dec 2015

He's not interested in the presidency. He's auditioning for V.P. My guess is most of his voters will go to Hillary.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
34. I don't have an opinion on this one way or another.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:12 PM
Dec 2015

I'll leave that up to him, to his campaign, and to his supporters.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
35. Yesterday I would have given an enthusiastic NO!
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:14 PM
Dec 2015

But his recent back and forth with Howard Dean, and their claim that Bernie declined to fight for more debates, has drained that enthusiasm. I still like his ideas, but I no longer trust the guy.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
47. weird
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:57 AM
Dec 2015

...two seconds in an interview and you're complaining about trust. THIS is the issue that makes or breaks it for you?

How utterly droll.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
38. Maybe if the media wasn't so intent on..
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:30 PM
Dec 2015

seeing a Sanders vs Clinton battle royal O'Malley would have done/would be doing better. But that's who they wanted to focus on so he got no time.

He's free to stay in as long as he chooses and I will support him as long as he does.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
46. I remember when Sanders supporters were complaining about a coronation
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 11:54 AM
Dec 2015

...now some want to make the primary a Bernie and Hillary show. Our primary is about more than putting a crown on one of these pols. It's an opportunity to elevate issues and concerns to a national level of debate and discussion.

I hope O'Malley stays in, if only to provide the only influence from outside of D.C. in this campaign.

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