2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs it time for O Malley to call it quits?
I do not dislike the guy but he like Trump is sucking up time that could be better used to debate issues by what are seen by almost everyone as the most viable candidates. He gets less than a third , maybe 15 to 20m percent of air time but that is 4 or 5 times the percentasge of supporters he has. With Hillary getting the lion share and O Malley getting far more exposure than his percentage of voters warrant, is it not time for Him to pull out and let Bernie and Hillary duke it out.
brooklynite
(94,737 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)and keep poking at Hillary. His chances of getting the nomination are virtually zero, but I think he adds some valuable ideas.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Let him get a few primaries in before we ask him to step aside.
It's a long game and it hasn't really started yet.
elleng
(131,126 posts)You are very far from correct, in saying he gets 'maybe 15 to 20m percent of air time,' he gets virtually NO air time.
And if he did, you might recognize that he SHOULD be UP FRONT.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Maybe instead of trying to convince Trump supporters, focus on convincing O'Malley supporters to switch to Sanders.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)There is a larger pool from Trump's supporters. And if what Sanders says hasn't pulled MOM folks, what could?
one_voice
(20,043 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)I like him a lot.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)flip to Hillary simply because he'll want a piece of the Clinton action. I've lost tons of respect for him based on his debate attacks and lie about Bernie not wanting to debate.
tritsofme
(17,399 posts)match-up with Clinton that he wants and needs.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)I think this is a trial run for 2024. If so, it is in his best interest to get through the first two states and, assuming he does not do better than his polling numbers in them, to then drop out.
He could then get more air time than he does now by being interviewed during the rest of the primary season.
It isn't time yet, but it is getting close.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I like him. I hope he stays in the race. Let the people decide.
riversedge
(70,305 posts)brooklynite
(94,737 posts)Don't tell me.....
riversedge
(70,305 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)He's stayed in this long. He should continue at least through Iowa and New Hampshire.
He has an excellent ground game in Iowa and there may be some good news there for him considering the kinds of people who generally turn out for caucuses. New Hampshire will be a harder sell, but if he does well in IA, he may get some momentum going.
But it should be his decision, not DU's.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)this presents a problem for O'Malley with a corporate media that specializes in sound bite coverage, but there surely is room in national discourse for rationality rather than positioning and posturing. I see O'Malley as a very viable candidate. Perhaps not in 2016, but if he keeps working and talking he could be a great President.
He adds to the conversation.
ETA: And anything is possible for a campaigner like O'Malley in Iowa.
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)If IA doesn't come in well for him then maybe. You know, he does have supporters on this board, and in IA.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)farleftlib
(2,125 posts)We need to hear more liberals voices, not fewer. He isn't getting the air time he deserves but quitting is not the answer.
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I think he is still garnering interest. The more O'Malley talks, the better for the party. Isn't he as close to Sanders as Sanders is to Clinton in many polls?
StevieM
(10,500 posts)he seems to be way back.
I think he should stay in the race until he decides the time is right to end his campaign.
I am supporting Hillary, but I like O'Malley too.
TheBlackAdder
(28,216 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)to qualify for matching funds?
What is the earliest date they can drop out at if this is their goal?
TheBlackAdder
(28,216 posts).
Once they get their first payment, which will be the largest one, they can retire their campaign in good standing.
It's justifiable to collect a check when the campaign is active, instead of attempting collection on a campaign that is ineligible or closed out. So keeping the campaign active as long as possible increases the taxpayer largesse they will receive, but it will also allow the disbural of funds received better, while taking money on a live campaign.
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Candidates may present documentation to establish their eligibility for matching funds and submit matchable contributions during the year before the election is held. The first payments, however, are not made until January of the election year. From that point forward, candidates may submit additional matching fund requests and receive payments on a monthly basis. Even if a candidate is no longer actively campaigning in primary elections, he or she may continue to request matching funds to pay off campaign debts and to wind down the campaign until early in the year following the election.
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Once declared eligible for matching funds, a candidate may continue to receive payments until his or her date of ineligibility. Thereafter, a candidate may receive additional funds only to pay off campaign debts and to wind down the campaign.
Under the statute and Commission regulations, primary candidates become ineligible to receive matching funds on the earliest of the following dates:
* 30 days after the candidate fails to receive 10 percent of the votes cast in two consecutive primary elections (unless the candidate receives 20 percent or more of the vote in a subsequent primary);
* The date the candidate publicly withdraws from the race;
* The date on which the candidate notifies the Commission, or the Commission determines, that the candidate has ceased to campaign actively in more than one state;37 or
* The date on which the party nominates its candidate at the national convention
http://www.fec.gov/info/chone.htm
StevieM
(10,500 posts)As long as they don't formally end their candidacy they are still allowed to raise money. And if I am reading this right it says that candidates who are no longer campaigning, like someone whose campaign is suspended, can still collect matching funds.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)He's not interested in the presidency. He's auditioning for V.P. My guess is most of his voters will go to Hillary.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I'll leave that up to him, to his campaign, and to his supporters.
demwing
(16,916 posts)But his recent back and forth with Howard Dean, and their claim that Bernie declined to fight for more debates, has drained that enthusiasm. I still like his ideas, but I no longer trust the guy.
...two seconds in an interview and you're complaining about trust. THIS is the issue that makes or breaks it for you?
How utterly droll.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)seeing a Sanders vs Clinton battle royal O'Malley would have done/would be doing better. But that's who they wanted to focus on so he got no time.
He's free to stay in as long as he chooses and I will support him as long as he does.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)FSogol
(45,527 posts)bigtree
(86,005 posts)...now some want to make the primary a Bernie and Hillary show. Our primary is about more than putting a crown on one of these pols. It's an opportunity to elevate issues and concerns to a national level of debate and discussion.
I hope O'Malley stays in, if only to provide the only influence from outside of D.C. in this campaign.