2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSantorum's wins shake up 2012 GOP presidential race
WASHINGTON -- Rick Santorum seized an important opportunity Tuesday to become the chief conservative alternative to Mitt Romney, as he won Republican presidential contests in Missouri and Minnesota and appeared headed for a strong showing in Colorado.
Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, was expected to remain the front-runner for the GOP nomination nevertheless, thanks to his huge advantages in campaign cash and organization going forward, and his impressive earlier wins in New Hampshire, Florida and Nevada.
Still, the solid Santorum vote provided fresh evidence that "Romney's is a troubled candidacy," said Lawrence Jacobs, a professor of political science at the University of Minnesota. "The outcome of the race is far from certain."
The strong showing by Santorum made it clear that Romney isn't yet his party's consensus nominee. It signaled that the GOP nomination campaign may remain a bitter struggle for months, possibly leading to a divided August convention and a weakened candidate against President Barack Obama in the fall.
More: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/02/07/2630209/santorums-wins-shake-up-2012-gop.html#storylink=cpy
sellitman
(11,607 posts)I love to see this thing dragged out further. I bet Obama is a happy camper tonight.
Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)But now I won't be able to wear one for years because of this idiot.
sellitman
(11,607 posts)It sits in a draw attracting only moths. Lol
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)I worry a bit about linking him to the stupid looking sweater vest too much. Though a bad fashion choice I think that his policies and his public statements are far more damning. Too much time spent on sweater vests could catch on in the media and give him some kind of illusion of being a character.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)The discord and division is a beautiful thing to behold ....
Disaster, disarray, discord, division, dissonance, disorganization, debacle, defeat .... and THAT'S just some of the D words ....
Poor Republicans .... They keep getting jerked around by the nape of the neck .... They keep getting clotheslined as soon as they start trotting around the track for their victory lap ....
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)Sounds like a Brussel sprout overdose.
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)tulsakatz
(3,122 posts)right now that page says, with 75% reporting:
Santorum 37%
Romney 37%
Gingrich 13%
Paul 12%
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)I'm not positive of this but I think he has 700 uncontested delegates for the taking. He's still going to win.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)subterranean
(3,427 posts)It will make Rmoney think he has to move even farther to the right on social issues. He's been speaking out a lot against gay marriage and abortion lately, but it looks like the fundies aren't buying it.
Ebadlun
(336 posts)He may as well write them off and start the long trek back to the centre while he still has time.
Obama3_16
(157 posts)These Republicans ate DYSSFunctional.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Rozlee
(2,529 posts)And that's saying a lot. At this point, Mittens is going to have to tack to the ultra nutcase right and embrace the Left Behind crowd. It doesn't get better than this.
SpartanDem
(4,533 posts)sweetloukillbot
(11,029 posts)A Right-wing, Evangelical friend immediately liked and commented on the post. Then five minutes later the like and the comment mysteriously disappeared. Apparently she discovered the Google in the interim...
musicblind
(4,484 posts)MarkCharles
(2,261 posts)the Republitard clowns are scary white men!!!!!
Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)Ew.
Hey, I'm so happy that the GOP is mucking up this primary season. Nothing nastier than solid Santorum coming up from behind.
Poor Newtie.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)I should know. Most of my family are repukes.
pinto
(106,886 posts)The trenches of our agenda need that legislative support.
LarryNM
(493 posts)Maybe they can do in each other.
villager
(26,001 posts)Which, of course, they are.
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Skittles
(153,169 posts)ejbr
(5,856 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)JBoy
(8,021 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)*EGREGIOUS*
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)It just came too late to be reflected in the Nevada outcome. The thin skinned Romney fired his new debate coach that guided him to strong debates in Florida because Romney felt the debate coach was taking too much credit for his turnaround. Then he blew the interview on CNN and had to go into damage control. Lastly, he accepted The Donald's endorsement in Las Vegas, of all places. Thin skinned, out of touch and clueless adds up to a big slap down today. Santorum benefitted because Gingrich's campaign is still in disarray following Florida. But this could be short lived for Santorum unless some fat cat billionaire funds a Super Pac for him. Let the show continue.
usrname
(398 posts)If some anal leakage can be the front runner for the GOP, it can't possibly hurt Obama.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)over and over, endlessly, where virtually every word & gesture is carefully nuanced to insure
the most extravagant spending orgy in history via these so-called super-PACs .. and guess
where 95% of that money is getting spent? ... Gee?!! surprise surprise, it's for ADs in the very
self-same M$M that is tansparently choreographing the whole extravaganza to squeeze every
dime possible out of our supposedly "democratic" elections.
Now it's Newt ... No now it's Mitt ... No no, now it's Santorum.
Anything and everything to just keep people watching, imagining that they are seeing "democracy in
action" .. what a fucking sad joke this whole carnival has become.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)and in fact that is the whole plan... It's like a badly scripted (and it is scripted) reality show. It will be Mitt in the end.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Romney is the GOP Placeholder for this round, Obama will win. Go back and think about what you have been seeing in the media since last summer. It has very much been a flavor of the week, build them up, talk about them, tear them down keep filling the news cycle series of reporting. There has never been a contest on the GOP side (there has been only a media circus), it was always going to be Romney as a placeholder, they really don't want to win in 2012. In 2016 the seat will be open and then they might run Bush, Christie or whoever the 2012 VP selection happens to be.
This is about selling ad time & little more.
barbtries
(28,799 posts)when it matters. gotta be.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)That was always going to be the case.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Really.
As Rachel Maddow pointed out last night, 2 of these states don't have delegates yet. This cart-before-the-horse act was.... how did she put it?...
"The most expensive opinion poll ever" (cost MO tax payers $7 million)
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Keep snapping at his heels and send him skittering even further to the rabid right.
Even the greatest "Flipper" of all time won't be able to tack back to the center in time for November.
SG
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)that I helped a little with this in the MO non binding primary. "Just feelin' so Republican for a few moments on Tuesday."
roosterpack
(25 posts).................................really?
we ran this asshole out of pa by a double digit margin vs bob casey.
go ahead teahadists..................................pick this asshole.
he's good for about 50-100 electoral votes vs Obie.
that's about it.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Especially MI and AZ. If Santorum does well in either of those states then we may have horse race.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)The mighty GOP trembles..
pretty damn funny
Little Star
(17,055 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)for us. It just means maybe different fool will be beaten by Obama than we expected.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)santo has`t a chance in hell to win the presidency.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)And when is it MY turn?
nolabels
(13,133 posts)How in the heck can a commoner keep track of all this stuff, it's sort of like the movie 'It's a Mad World'.
We have to watch it on rewind to see all the sub-plots.
It's really lot of fun watching
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)As a side note - As a Minnesotan, I've delighted in the brutal in fighting push polls etc that I've been receiving via the phone in the lead up to the caucus. One call paid for by Romney was a not a recording - but a live breathless young man reading from a card all of the horrors of Rick Santorum. It was basically a live ro-bo call since there was absolutely no engagement with the caller since he just launched into his spiel and hung up. I found it off putting that a campaign would pay someone to call my home and not even say hello or goodbye. People roll their eyes when they receive robo calls, but to have a live person invade your home, launch into their spiel and hang up would be a huge turn off for many.
I was surprised that this was a Romney attack call against Santorum. I guess Romney had numbers that indicated Santorum was his biggest competition in Minnesota. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
NatBurner
(2,640 posts)good job, people
Bruce Wayne
(692 posts)Another terrible thing that turns out to be a gift.
GOTV
(3,759 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)rocktivity
(44,576 posts)What he ISN'T is his party's VOTER'S consensus nominee.
With Gingrich failing to make the ballot in Missouri, R-money's 25% is downright damning. It suggests that with Gingrich on the ballet, he might have finished third anyway!
rocktivity
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)and by defualt, the MSM and the rigged voting machines. As much as we want to assume that Mitt cannot win, we have to keep our fott on the enemy's throat!
All the same, it says a lot where the R's are almost as disorgnized as we D's usually are. Hey oh great white hopes, how does it feell to know the only hope is saving your White Anglo-Saxon Protestant empires lies between two devout Catholics and a Mormon?
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)He converted from Southern Baptism circa 2009, inspired by his wife Calistia with whom he had a six-year affair....
rocktivity
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)how splintered the Republicans are, even now.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)The non-Romney vote may go to Santorum which might be enough to win some more states. The acid test will be Michigan and Arizona. If Santorum wins either one, we might have a real horse race all the way to the convention.
donheld
(21,311 posts)These all are states where they are afraid of the Mormon and want a fellow bible beater.
agentS
(1,325 posts)Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the primary usually wrapped up by this phase, unless both contenders are really strong?
I know these races don't count- per se, but they certainly DO count in media momentum.
We should 'encourage' more of this, so as to force R-money to pay for ads in as many states as possible. Maybe we can't bankrupt the jackasses, but we can deplete their funds before the general.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)...and if he picks another Tea Party type as his running mate, what excuse will the Freepers come up with when he gets routed in November? Watch them tie themselves in knots trying to redefine him as a RINO, so that they can continue to peddle their "America is crying out for a real conservative" schtick.