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EarlG

(21,949 posts)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:09 AM Feb 2012

Santorum's wins shake up 2012 GOP presidential race

WASHINGTON -- Rick Santorum seized an important opportunity Tuesday to become the chief conservative alternative to Mitt Romney, as he won Republican presidential contests in Missouri and Minnesota and appeared headed for a strong showing in Colorado.

Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, was expected to remain the front-runner for the GOP nomination nevertheless, thanks to his huge advantages in campaign cash and organization going forward, and his impressive earlier wins in New Hampshire, Florida and Nevada.

Still, the solid Santorum vote provided fresh evidence that "Romney's is a troubled candidacy," said Lawrence Jacobs, a professor of political science at the University of Minnesota. "The outcome of the race is far from certain."

The strong showing by Santorum made it clear that Romney isn't yet his party's consensus nominee. It signaled that the GOP nomination campaign may remain a bitter struggle for months, possibly leading to a divided August convention and a weakened candidate against President Barack Obama in the fall.

More: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/02/07/2630209/santorums-wins-shake-up-2012-gop.html#storylink=cpy

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Santorum's wins shake up 2012 GOP presidential race (Original Post) EarlG Feb 2012 OP
Nice Johnny2X2X Feb 2012 #1
The sweater vest is still a fashion option eh? sellitman Feb 2012 #2
Dammit. I like sweater vests. Pab Sungenis Feb 2012 #41
I got one for the holidays sellitman Feb 2012 #46
Hmm... kenfrequed Feb 2012 #53
Trajan is a happy camper ... Trajan Feb 2012 #3
Santorum Explosion..... Grassy Knoll Feb 2012 #4
Hold on to your betting slips: R-Money's up by two with 50% reporting! rocktivity Feb 2012 #5
interesting....... tulsakatz Feb 2012 #8
I think Willard runs uncontested in a bunch of states. MrSlayer Feb 2012 #6
Thanks for planting that visual in our heads! Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #7
This is a good thing. subterranean Feb 2012 #9
They'll never vote for him, whatever he does Ebadlun Feb 2012 #31
Loving this. His frothy mixture of hatred and bigotry wins the day. Obama3_16 Feb 2012 #10
Wow, he took all three states.... amazing! secondwind Feb 2012 #11
I've never seen Republicans this crazy. Rozlee Feb 2012 #12
The shit show continues SpartanDem Feb 2012 #13
I posted something on my FB about Santorum spreading out from Iowa towards Minnesota and Missouri... sweetloukillbot Feb 2012 #14
This reminds me, I have tickets to see the circus tomorrow at the Greensboro, Coliseum n/t musicblind Feb 2012 #15
But the clowns at the circus are actually funny... MarkCharles Feb 2012 #36
"solid Santorum" Stuckinthebush Feb 2012 #16
Proof positive that repukes in MN are batshit insane. Zoeisright Feb 2012 #17
And the (R) disarray is also our opening to make gains at the Congressional/State levels. pinto Feb 2012 #18
Tonight a Victory for the Brownshirts over the Blackshirts LarryNM Feb 2012 #19
Shades of "The Damned" villager Feb 2012 #24
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Skittles Feb 2012 #20
You ain't right... ejbr Feb 2012 #43
Yum! sofa king Feb 2012 #52
lol Jefferson23 Feb 2012 #56
It's a bit nutty JBoy Feb 2012 #59
SCHEDULING SOFA KING FOR ASS-KICKING Skittles Feb 2012 #60
Romney Had A Really Bad Week DallasNE Feb 2012 #21
This can only be a win for Obama usrname Feb 2012 #22
It's tragically hilarious how the M$M keeps playing these GOP candidates off against each other 99th_Monkey Feb 2012 #23
The have been doing that since before this started in Iowa Sherman A1 Feb 2012 #27
Gawd Help us if ANY of these clowns ever actually get into the WH. M$M knows Obama = 2 terms ~nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2012 #28
They won't Sherman A1 Feb 2012 #30
it will be Obama barbtries Feb 2012 #40
Precisely Sherman A1 Feb 2012 #48
most extravagant spending orgy in history AlbertCat Feb 2012 #51
You go, Ricky! Stay on MitWit's ass... Surya Gayatri Feb 2012 #25
I must confess Sherman A1 Feb 2012 #26
santorum?............................ roosterpack Feb 2012 #29
Yes it does. We need to watch the next batch of polls in upcoming states. DCBob Feb 2012 #32
Yup! All it takes to shake 'em up is 26.372 people annabanana Feb 2012 #33
Santorum is ruining Newt's long game! Hahahaha. Little Star Feb 2012 #34
that doesn't shake things up 2pooped2pop Feb 2012 #35
jesus h christ i`m eating my breakfast..... madrchsod Feb 2012 #37
Does this mean Ron Paul gets a turn next? tclambert Feb 2012 #38
Or maybe that other guy from Georgia, Ted Parker wasn't it? nolabels Feb 2012 #49
I log on and immediately spit take my coffee. myrna minx Feb 2012 #39
i'm just here for the santorum jokes NatBurner Feb 2012 #42
For the first time, I can honestly say "Thank God for Rick Santorum" Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #44
Man, I wish it was Gingrich but still, this is great! GOTV Feb 2012 #45
Rick Santorum speaking truth to power: Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #47
I beg to differ - R-money is very much his party's consensus nominee rocktivity Feb 2012 #50
We all know Money is voting for Mitt DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #54
Newt -- a DEVOUT Catholic? rocktivity Feb 2012 #57
They'll have eaten each other alive by summer....this is some primary race, incredible Jefferson23 Feb 2012 #55
If Gingrich starts to fade Santorum will benefit greatly. DCBob Feb 2012 #58
I'm not too surprised. donheld Feb 2012 #61
0 for 3 in one day and 3 for 6 or 7 Overall? Is R-money really the frontrunner? agentS Feb 2012 #62
If Santorum is the nominee... nxylas Feb 2012 #63

sellitman

(11,607 posts)
2. The sweater vest is still a fashion option eh?
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:16 AM
Feb 2012

I love to see this thing dragged out further. I bet Obama is a happy camper tonight.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
53. Hmm...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 03:40 PM
Feb 2012

I worry a bit about linking him to the stupid looking sweater vest too much. Though a bad fashion choice I think that his policies and his public statements are far more damning. Too much time spent on sweater vests could catch on in the media and give him some kind of illusion of being a character.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
3. Trajan is a happy camper ...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:24 AM
Feb 2012

The discord and division is a beautiful thing to behold ....

Disaster, disarray, discord, division, dissonance, disorganization, debacle, defeat .... and THAT'S just some of the D words ....

Poor Republicans .... They keep getting jerked around by the nape of the neck .... They keep getting clotheslined as soon as they start trotting around the track for their victory lap ....

tulsakatz

(3,122 posts)
8. interesting.......
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 02:02 AM
Feb 2012

right now that page says, with 75% reporting:

Santorum 37%
Romney 37%
Gingrich 13%
Paul 12%

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
6. I think Willard runs uncontested in a bunch of states.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:40 AM
Feb 2012

I'm not positive of this but I think he has 700 uncontested delegates for the taking. He's still going to win.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
9. This is a good thing.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 02:05 AM
Feb 2012

It will make Rmoney think he has to move even farther to the right on social issues. He's been speaking out a lot against gay marriage and abortion lately, but it looks like the fundies aren't buying it.

Ebadlun

(336 posts)
31. They'll never vote for him, whatever he does
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 07:03 AM
Feb 2012

He may as well write them off and start the long trek back to the centre while he still has time.

 

Obama3_16

(157 posts)
10. Loving this. His frothy mixture of hatred and bigotry wins the day.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 02:06 AM
Feb 2012

These Republicans ate DYSSFunctional.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
12. I've never seen Republicans this crazy.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 02:14 AM
Feb 2012

And that's saying a lot. At this point, Mittens is going to have to tack to the ultra nutcase right and embrace the Left Behind crowd. It doesn't get better than this.

sweetloukillbot

(11,029 posts)
14. I posted something on my FB about Santorum spreading out from Iowa towards Minnesota and Missouri...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 02:18 AM
Feb 2012

A Right-wing, Evangelical friend immediately liked and commented on the post. Then five minutes later the like and the comment mysteriously disappeared. Apparently she discovered the Google in the interim...

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
16. "solid Santorum"
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 02:24 AM
Feb 2012

Ew.

Hey, I'm so happy that the GOP is mucking up this primary season. Nothing nastier than solid Santorum coming up from behind.

Poor Newtie.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
18. And the (R) disarray is also our opening to make gains at the Congressional/State levels.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 02:41 AM
Feb 2012

The trenches of our agenda need that legislative support.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
21. Romney Had A Really Bad Week
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:01 AM
Feb 2012

It just came too late to be reflected in the Nevada outcome. The thin skinned Romney fired his new debate coach that guided him to strong debates in Florida because Romney felt the debate coach was taking too much credit for his turnaround. Then he blew the interview on CNN and had to go into damage control. Lastly, he accepted The Donald's endorsement in Las Vegas, of all places. Thin skinned, out of touch and clueless adds up to a big slap down today. Santorum benefitted because Gingrich's campaign is still in disarray following Florida. But this could be short lived for Santorum unless some fat cat billionaire funds a Super Pac for him. Let the show continue.

 

usrname

(398 posts)
22. This can only be a win for Obama
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:13 AM
Feb 2012

If some anal leakage can be the front runner for the GOP, it can't possibly hurt Obama.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
23. It's tragically hilarious how the M$M keeps playing these GOP candidates off against each other
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:21 AM
Feb 2012

over and over, endlessly, where virtually every word & gesture is carefully nuanced to insure
the most extravagant spending orgy in history via these so-called super-PACs .. and guess
where 95% of that money is getting spent? ... Gee?!! surprise surprise, it's for ADs in the very
self-same M$M that is tansparently choreographing the whole extravaganza
to squeeze every
dime possible out of our supposedly "democratic" elections.

Now it's Newt ... No now it's Mitt ... No no, now it's Santorum.

Anything and everything to just keep people watching, imagining that they are seeing "democracy in
action" .. what a fucking sad joke this whole carnival has become.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
27. The have been doing that since before this started in Iowa
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:45 AM
Feb 2012

and in fact that is the whole plan... It's like a badly scripted (and it is scripted) reality show. It will be Mitt in the end.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
30. They won't
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:41 AM
Feb 2012

Romney is the GOP Placeholder for this round, Obama will win. Go back and think about what you have been seeing in the media since last summer. It has very much been a flavor of the week, build them up, talk about them, tear them down keep filling the news cycle series of reporting. There has never been a contest on the GOP side (there has been only a media circus), it was always going to be Romney as a placeholder, they really don't want to win in 2012. In 2016 the seat will be open and then they might run Bush, Christie or whoever the 2012 VP selection happens to be.

This is about selling ad time & little more.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
51. most extravagant spending orgy in history
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:59 PM
Feb 2012

Really.

As Rachel Maddow pointed out last night, 2 of these states don't have delegates yet. This cart-before-the-horse act was.... how did she put it?...

"The most expensive opinion poll ever" (cost MO tax payers $7 million)

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
25. You go, Ricky! Stay on MitWit's ass...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:35 AM
Feb 2012

Keep snapping at his heels and send him skittering even further to the rabid right.

Even the greatest "Flipper" of all time won't be able to tack back to the center in time for November.
SG

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
26. I must confess
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:44 AM
Feb 2012

that I helped a little with this in the MO non binding primary. "Just feelin' so Republican for a few moments on Tuesday."

roosterpack

(25 posts)
29. santorum?............................
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:06 AM
Feb 2012

.................................really?

we ran this asshole out of pa by a double digit margin vs bob casey.

go ahead teahadists..................................pick this asshole.

he's good for about 50-100 electoral votes vs Obie.

that's about it.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
32. Yes it does. We need to watch the next batch of polls in upcoming states.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 07:59 AM
Feb 2012

Especially MI and AZ. If Santorum does well in either of those states then we may have horse race.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
35. that doesn't shake things up
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 08:23 AM
Feb 2012

for us. It just means maybe different fool will be beaten by Obama than we expected.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
49. Or maybe that other guy from Georgia, Ted Parker wasn't it?
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:10 PM
Feb 2012

How in the heck can a commoner keep track of all this stuff, it's sort of like the movie 'It's a Mad World'.
We have to watch it on rewind to see all the sub-plots.
It's really lot of fun watching

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
39. I log on and immediately spit take my coffee.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 09:13 AM
Feb 2012


As a side note - As a Minnesotan, I've delighted in the brutal in fighting push polls etc that I've been receiving via the phone in the lead up to the caucus. One call paid for by Romney was a not a recording - but a live breathless young man reading from a card all of the horrors of Rick Santorum. It was basically a live ro-bo call since there was absolutely no engagement with the caller since he just launched into his spiel and hung up. I found it off putting that a campaign would pay someone to call my home and not even say hello or goodbye. People roll their eyes when they receive robo calls, but to have a live person invade your home, launch into their spiel and hang up would be a huge turn off for many.

I was surprised that this was a Romney attack call against Santorum. I guess Romney had numbers that indicated Santorum was his biggest competition in Minnesota. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Bruce Wayne

(692 posts)
44. For the first time, I can honestly say "Thank God for Rick Santorum"
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 10:20 AM
Feb 2012

Another terrible thing that turns out to be a gift.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
50. I beg to differ - R-money is very much his party's consensus nominee
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:27 PM
Feb 2012

What he ISN'T is his party's VOTER'S consensus nominee.

With Gingrich failing to make the ballot in Missouri, R-money's 25% is downright damning. It suggests that with Gingrich on the ballet, he might have finished third anyway!


rocktivity

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
54. We all know Money is voting for Mitt
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:18 PM
Feb 2012

and by defualt, the MSM and the rigged voting machines. As much as we want to assume that Mitt cannot win, we have to keep our fott on the enemy's throat!

All the same, it says a lot where the R's are almost as disorgnized as we D's usually are. Hey oh great white hopes, how does it feell to know the only hope is saving your White Anglo-Saxon Protestant empires lies between two devout Catholics and a Mormon?

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
57. Newt -- a DEVOUT Catholic?
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:56 PM
Feb 2012

He converted from Southern Baptism circa 2009, inspired by his wife Calistia with whom he had a six-year affair....


rocktivity

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
55. They'll have eaten each other alive by summer....this is some primary race, incredible
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:22 PM
Feb 2012

how splintered the Republicans are, even now.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
58. If Gingrich starts to fade Santorum will benefit greatly.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 06:53 PM
Feb 2012

The non-Romney vote may go to Santorum which might be enough to win some more states. The acid test will be Michigan and Arizona. If Santorum wins either one, we might have a real horse race all the way to the convention.

donheld

(21,311 posts)
61. I'm not too surprised.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 12:17 AM
Feb 2012

These all are states where they are afraid of the Mormon and want a fellow bible beater.

agentS

(1,325 posts)
62. 0 for 3 in one day and 3 for 6 or 7 Overall? Is R-money really the frontrunner?
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 12:44 AM
Feb 2012

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the primary usually wrapped up by this phase, unless both contenders are really strong?

I know these races don't count- per se, but they certainly DO count in media momentum.

We should 'encourage' more of this, so as to force R-money to pay for ads in as many states as possible. Maybe we can't bankrupt the jackasses, but we can deplete their funds before the general.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
63. If Santorum is the nominee...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 08:09 AM
Feb 2012

...and if he picks another Tea Party type as his running mate, what excuse will the Freepers come up with when he gets routed in November? Watch them tie themselves in knots trying to redefine him as a RINO, so that they can continue to peddle their "America is crying out for a real conservative" schtick.

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