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kenn3d

(486 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:07 AM Jan 2016

Moveon.org endorses Bernie Sanders

Last edited Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:25 AM - Edit history (1)

http://front.moveon.org/


With a record-setting 78.6 percent of 340,665 votes cast by the MoveOn membership, Senator Bernie Sanders has won MoveOn.org Political Action’s endorsement for president with the largest total and widest margin in MoveOn history.

Bernie’s vote total and percentage are MoveOn records — the best any presidential candidate has performed in our 17-year history.
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Moveon.org endorses Bernie Sanders (Original Post) kenn3d Jan 2016 OP
Yippee ! ! ! fleur-de-lisa Jan 2016 #1
How democratic they voted. JRLeft Jan 2016 #3
How democratically they voted. eom Plucketeer Jan 2016 #72
They have always have been the tea party left lewebley3 Jan 2016 #99
Uhhh greiner3 Jan 2016 #103
Dude every post of yours has me.......... JRLeft Jan 2016 #111
Fortunately, it's all made-up bullshit. They have to counter everything with SOMEthing. arcane1 Jan 2016 #126
LOL. Even when they tried to help Pres Clinton? Moveon isn't a radical organization. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #121
move on formed in 1998 to oppose the impeachment of Bill Clinton. merrily Jan 2016 #149
Great! Hope it translates to boots on the ground cali Jan 2016 #2
He has boots on the ground Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #25
Just got an email that Bernie's opening an office snoringvoter Jan 2016 #56
Not only go but volunteer Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #60
Welcome to DU. And extra applause for being a Bernie supporter. lob1 Jan 2016 #90
How exciting! Where is the new office? (Not asking for gps,just the general vicinity.) hedda_foil Jan 2016 #124
surprise surprise. leftofcool Jan 2016 #4
Agreed. No surprise that the endorsement went to the progressive, not the cali Jan 2016 #10
+1 Exactly. BeanMusical Jan 2016 #23
Right?! AllyCat Jan 2016 #63
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #114
+1 Go Vols Jan 2016 #164
With the huge wave of good news for Bernie Android3.14 Jan 2016 #79
Cue Hillary fan's "it's not accurate" responses in 3... 2... 1... Scuba Jan 2016 #5
Polls are only accurate LWolf Jan 2016 #9
I was thinking more along the lines of: Cue Hillary fan's "it's not representative" quips in 3..2..1 Bubzer Jan 2016 #15
But you know the thing is that people were sharing it on social media and with their friend davidpdx Jan 2016 #26
Makes you wonder how many of the "hillary supporters" are actually conservatives in sheep's clothing Bubzer Jan 2016 #35
As the polls show, the GOP would rather face Hillary. Jarqui Jan 2016 #46
Not only that, but the Hillary supporters are convinced that she's been "vetted" SheilaT Jan 2016 #71
I agree. And it does strike me as a bit of a blinders on or a bizarre position Jarqui Jan 2016 #100
"They'll burn him some with his socialist label" Lordquinton Jan 2016 #105
It happens to all candidates Jarqui Jan 2016 #108
No one ever stands up to the socialist label Lordquinton Jan 2016 #109
I agree with you. Hillary is very vulnerable. The "scandals" don't have to be true or have JDPriestly Jan 2016 #141
She didn't run against Republicans eight years ago. merrily Jan 2016 #150
Kinda more like.... Congrats Sanders. Excellent endorsement. No need to be petty, vile or attack seabeyond Jan 2016 #19
And yet, most other edorsements, or just plain old good news for Bernie, get attacked. Bubzer Jan 2016 #37
Everything has been attacked: Sanders, his wife, his supporters, polls favorable to him, merrily Jan 2016 #152
Right?!? I dont get it either. They paint it as though hillary is the only one being attacked. Bubzer Jan 2016 #163
Agreed. There's bad behavior in both camps, but somehow the meme has spread that Sanders WIProgressive88 Jan 2016 #175
+1 Well said. n/t Tanuki Jan 2016 #39
well rtracey Jan 2016 #48
Can't give it a rest, even on an endorsement thread? merrily Jan 2016 #151
nope rtracey Jan 2016 #166
sad merrily Jan 2016 #170
whatever rtracey Jan 2016 #173
calling out Hillary fans? treestar Jan 2016 #82
Not the same thing. cui bono Jan 2016 #88
Exactly. Large Union Leaders are likely a part of the Oligarchy/1% That's why they libdem4life Jan 2016 #92
well if you've convinced yourself of that treestar Jan 2016 #94
You are either very naive Trajan Jan 2016 #107
Union heads do it all the time TheFarS1de Jan 2016 #110
2 years ago, my union negotiated behind the members backs, a contract that would have neverforget Jan 2016 #127
But... MoveOn used an internet poll! Lordquinton Jan 2016 #106
And no one but fans of Bernie are able to vote in internet polls. That's the fact, jack. merrily Jan 2016 #153
It's true Lordquinton Jan 2016 #167
The internet has a liberal bias. merrily Jan 2016 #171
He knocked it right out of the fucking park! +1. n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2016 #6
It's just another online poll padded by a couple of millennials who won't vote anyway. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #7
Yep LOL UglyGreed Jan 2016 #40
. merrily Jan 2016 #154
That link just chuckled me up... Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #165
Cool. Being chuckled up is good. merrily Jan 2016 #169
Wow! tazkcmo Jan 2016 #8
I wish I could rec your reply multiple times. Scuba Jan 2016 #11
Thanks! tazkcmo Jan 2016 #17
All those mouse clicks take a lot of effort you know! Bubzer Jan 2016 #16
My three capuchins just passed away from exhaustion snoringvoter Jan 2016 #57
Not after working them to death... nt kristopher Jan 2016 #98
Dead capuchins still vote in Chicago. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #115
LOL! Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #27
LOL! Yeah, in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #38
I agree 100%! tazkcmo Jan 2016 #41
As one of those three supporters stage left Jan 2016 #67
Yes, get some sleep! tazkcmo Jan 2016 #122
Done! stage left Jan 2016 #168
Multiple recs granted. Ivan Kaputski Jan 2016 #83
I'll vote and support multiple rec's for.... Left Coast2020 Jan 2016 #144
This is fabulous! Punkingal Jan 2016 #12
The Top 5 Reasons MoveOn Members Voted to Endorse Bernie (with the Most Votes and Widest Margin in ) Omaha Steve Jan 2016 #13
You need to fix your link, OS. winter is coming Jan 2016 #18
That's a great endorsement! in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #44
Very impressive democrank Jan 2016 #14
YESSSS!!!!!!! Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #20
Congratulations Bernie and Sanders' supporters on the endorsement still_one Jan 2016 #21
Thank you! MrChuck Jan 2016 #29
A sincere thank you. SamKnause Jan 2016 #31
it is a good solid endorsement to have still_one Jan 2016 #34
Bernie deserves the credit, not us... mak3cats Jan 2016 #51
Thanks, still_one. From you, I believe it. merrily Jan 2016 #156
It is starting to make sense to me now. nolabels Jan 2016 #22
Woohoo! mnhtnbb Jan 2016 #24
Yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #28
I suppose I could go act like some of the Bernie supporters BainsBane Jan 2016 #30
Well... redgreenandblue Jan 2016 #32
Nor, I suspect, did Planned Parenthood BainsBane Jan 2016 #36
Mostly becuase even those who disagree with their endorsement are not synergie Jan 2016 #146
So you wrote a passive agressive post instead. last1standing Jan 2016 #118
Moveon is a political organization while Planned Parenthood shouldn't be. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #119
It was PP's political arm that made the endorsement BainsBane Jan 2016 #177
Planned Parenthood has never snubbed Democratic candidates in a primary race before. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #179
"their own democratic choices" is the key expression in your post. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #143
You assert that BainsBane Jan 2016 #178
Good for you. Unfortunately, some of your fellow Clinton supporters are being rather poor sports WIProgressive88 Jan 2016 #174
When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jan 2016 #33
When I see you type this, ejbr Jan 2016 #42
Yes! n/t ejbr Jan 2016 #43
I'm sure not surprised. PatrickforO Jan 2016 #45
Yayyyy!! Now, THIS is a big endorsement! Duval Jan 2016 #47
An internet poll that Supported Senator Sanders. Amimnoch Jan 2016 #49
"I wish my candidate would lie as much as he has" JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #53
Yep. Her public pronouncements is a veritable bonanza of prevarication Armstead Jan 2016 #58
+1 for the great wording! n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #62
Huge +1! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #116
+1 The Prevarication is Strong with that One! Melissa G Jan 2016 #123
Very pleasantly surprised. My lord! Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #95
Do Hillary's supporters not know how to vote on the Internet? Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #54
Leader? LEADER?? I'm sorry, is this the joke of the day thread?? Amimnoch Jan 2016 #68
Bernie's track record and the people would disagree with you. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #70
I'm sorry you are so bitter. cui bono Jan 2016 #91
LOL.. 2 letters for you mate.. PP Amimnoch Jan 2016 #96
I don't know what that means, so... cui bono Jan 2016 #97
Maybe Bernie stands against the MIC in the same way that Paul does that in the Republican Party... cascadiance Jan 2016 #101
And what kind of "leadership" did H. Clinton show when George Bush asked her to join him rhett o rick Jan 2016 #133
erm Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #129
I doubt too many Hillary supporters dlwickham Jan 2016 #135
Will you be voting in the primaries? Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #136
of course I will dlwickham Jan 2016 #140
So why do you so readily discount on line polls like Move On's? Do believe Bernie's supporters Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #142
Online polls are one thing dlwickham Jan 2016 #161
Lie? Hillary is the queen of dissembling. cali Jan 2016 #55
Come on now, we don't shit on others' parades kjones Jan 2016 #77
"impossible to achive promises" like a mathematically impossible magic encryption backdoor that only Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #128
Some of us don't recognize or admit when our wish has come true. merrily Jan 2016 #157
Yes! SoapBox Jan 2016 #50
With 340,665 votes cast Bernie gets 78.6% now that's an endorsement! Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #52
#FeelTheBern! RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #59
Good. jwirr Jan 2016 #61
K&R CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #64
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #65
. libodem Jan 2016 #66
Sweet Mother Mary. This and this mornings new polls Purveyor Jan 2016 #69
Oddly enough, the percentage just about exactly matches SheilaT Jan 2016 #73
What GREAT news to wake up to! Plucketeer Jan 2016 #74
a mink hair shy? grasswire Jan 2016 #80
reminds me of a client says things like merrily Jan 2016 #158
little reminder of what HRC said about Moveon back in 08' Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #75
Well, at least we kniw why her supporters in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #78
Wow. cui bono Jan 2016 #93
MoveOn.org has "moved on" from Clinton snoringvoter Jan 2016 #125
Wow thanks. bahrbearian Jan 2016 #137
BECAUSE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE INTO AFGHANISTAN Hissyspit Jan 2016 #148
So Much Good News For Bernie... ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #76
Where's the snide "clicky" comments? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #81
Congrats Bernie. It's a good endorsement. one_voice Jan 2016 #84
Considering the original purpose of MoveOn, this is extra enjoyable. n/t eggplant Jan 2016 #85
kick! n/t in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #86
78.6 percent !!! cui bono Jan 2016 #87
Love love love love it. azmom Jan 2016 #89
Bernie is going to win!!! Sorry HRC! Yupy Jan 2016 #102
bvar22 endorses MoveOn for rejoining the fight. bvar22 Jan 2016 #104
I'm with you. nt Enthusiast Jan 2016 #117
I'm glad I voted... Dont call me Shirley Jan 2016 #112
K&R! I'm happy to see this post has hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #113
Since there are some who don't understand the difference between this and Planned Parenthood... last1standing Jan 2016 #120
We are not the fringe. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #130
No fairs... 99Forever Jan 2016 #131
Some people try to say that H. Clinton is progressive. Well this progressive organization rhett o rick Jan 2016 #132
Al From admitted to intentionally mucking up that word, so.... merrily Jan 2016 #159
Doing the happy dance!! #FeeltheBern!!! eom Karma13612 Jan 2016 #134
Wow. pacalo Jan 2016 #138
I was a charter member of Moveon. murielm99 Jan 2016 #139
+1 merrily Jan 2016 #155
Hot damn. John Poet Jan 2016 #145
hooray for moveon & bernie hopemountain Jan 2016 #147
Excellent! chwaliszewski Jan 2016 #160
Considering MoveOn was the organization that started liberalnarb Jan 2016 #162
I just got the moveon.org email this evening and unsubscribed. underthematrix Jan 2016 #172
2006. The last time I gave them any money. Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #176
321 Recs and Skinner didn't make the list? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2016 #180
 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
103. Uhhh
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:18 PM
Jan 2016

You'll have to explain your reasoning. I can't tell if that's a good thing or are calling me a narcissist racist homophobic pathological lying piece of crap

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
126. Fortunately, it's all made-up bullshit. They have to counter everything with SOMEthing.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jan 2016

It doesn't matter if it's nonsensical bullshit like this. That's the job.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
121. LOL. Even when they tried to help Pres Clinton? Moveon isn't a radical organization.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 06:20 PM
Jan 2016

They just want basic freedoms and liberties. Those things that the Conservative Democrats are willing to sacrifice to insure the 1% continue to loot the land.

Once again I will ask that you tell us what moveon stands for that you object to.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
25. He has boots on the ground
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:28 AM
Jan 2016

and has had since the July 29 Organizing Events. I find it impossible to believe that all the organizers, all the volunteers, all the donations, week after week will not translate into votes. The LAST thing all these people are going to do on election day is stay home. Hillary voters, however, . . .

 

snoringvoter

(178 posts)
56. Just got an email that Bernie's opening an office
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:25 AM
Jan 2016

less than two miles from me, and invited me to the grand opening on Thursday. Of course, I'll attend.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
60. Not only go but volunteer
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:38 AM
Jan 2016

if you haven't already. The momentum and excitement of this campaign can't be understated. Volunteering and being with other enthusiastic volunteers is where you really feel the Bern.

Oh yeah, and as a DUer going to an EVENT, it is your job to take pictures and post to DU so we can all vicariously live your experience. And welcome to DU.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. Agreed. No surprise that the endorsement went to the progressive, not the
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:11 AM
Jan 2016

corporate candidate.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
79. With the huge wave of good news for Bernie
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:33 PM
Jan 2016

I have to commend you for maintaining your 2-minute response time to throw rotten cabbage.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
15. I was thinking more along the lines of: Cue Hillary fan's "it's not representative" quips in 3..2..1
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:18 AM
Jan 2016

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
26. But you know the thing is that people were sharing it on social media and with their friend
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:30 AM
Jan 2016

about the voting. So when they come out with their sour puss face and try to claim that it won't do much good. Most of the Clinton supporters despise MoveOn anyway, that had to have helped a bit.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
35. Makes you wonder how many of the "hillary supporters" are actually conservatives in sheep's clothing
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:44 AM
Jan 2016

It might explain some of the heavy right leanings that have been displayed since election season started up.

Jarqui

(10,129 posts)
46. As the polls show, the GOP would rather face Hillary.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:01 AM
Jan 2016

They've probably got hours of ads in the can to swiftboat her because she's provided them with 25 years of material. Knowing it won't be as easy for them to take on Sanders, they probably have their thumb on the scales.

They've been doing this sort of crap for decades (ie see Nixon's quiet financial support in 1968 for a Democrat to help divide and conquer the Dems).

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
71. Not only that, but the Hillary supporters are convinced that she's been "vetted"
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:15 PM
Jan 2016

which apparently means that since she ran eight years ago, everything that could possibly have come out about her has come out, and so that somehow none of that can ever be used against her again. I find it astonishing that they can honestly believe this.

Jarqui

(10,129 posts)
100. I agree. And it does strike me as a bit of a blinders on or a bizarre position
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:00 PM
Jan 2016

because it's my biggest fear. I worry that the library of crap they can spin on her is so great they'll have a different scandal, flip-flop or lie replaying every day of the last 60 days of the campaign. And the Clinton campaign will be playing so much defense, it will be hard to get other messages out.

No doubt that I like Bernie more for a number of reasons. But my biggest thing is defending our last 8 years of effort with a Dem president. Hillary's poorer electability is a big difference to me between the two. And I think she's more vulnerable than the polls show because Bernie hasn't been doing much attacking. The the GOP really cut loose I think she'll fall and won't be able to bounce back unless the GOP has a worse fall.

Look at Bill's sex scandal. Many folks around here would agree with Clinton supporters that that wasn't Hillary's fault and shouldn't have a much place in this election.

But the GOP are going to play that up for everything thing it's worth. And it's worth something because many will subconsciously flash back to the time when they were not exactly proud of the Clintons in the White House because the president was taking time out of his busy schedule for getting blow jobs in the Oval Office. That's not my favorite memory of the Clinton years but the GOP will not let me forget it. And it will dent her in the polls a point or two.

Travelgate, Whitewater ... through to the still smoldering Benghazzi, Emailgate, Clinton foundation payoffs, etc.

Bernie does not have that big amount of baggage. They'll burn him some with his socialist label but when many folks find out what that really means, it's not going to hurt him nearly as much of all the stuff they have on Hillary.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
105. "They'll burn him some with his socialist label"
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:34 PM
Jan 2016

They'll do the same thing to Hillary, just like they did to Obama and every other Democratic candidate, so I don't think we should really be worried about the Red Scare as a deterrent.

Jarqui

(10,129 posts)
108. It happens to all candidates
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:44 PM
Jan 2016

The different is how much it happens and how much traction it will get. The volume of Clinton's scandals, flip-flops and lies is likely to get more traction than most in my opinion.

Trying to brand Bernie as a commie is coming. And they'll probably ding him a few points in the polls for it. But what I'm seeing is as more people get familiar with him, they like him and he's still rising.

Everyone knows who Hillary is, a good percentage do not like or trust her so she's close to her ceiling. YHou're not likely to see a big rise or lots of enthusiasm.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
109. No one ever stands up to the socialist label
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jan 2016

Every time it comes up we're supposed to run screaming away from it. Bernie embraces it, and I don't think they know what to do with that, hopefully he can kill that form of attack for good.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
141. I agree with you. Hillary is very vulnerable. The "scandals" don't have to be true or have
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:51 AM
Jan 2016

any real relationship to Hillary's actual life or the truth. Voters, especially independent voters have been conditioned to expect to associate scandals with the Clintons. Some of the rumors are completely absurd, but people, even some of my friends, just believe them anyway.

Hillary is just not a good candidate for a number of reasons.

I like the fact that she is a woman. I would be so proud to have a woman president, but Hillary is not the right one.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
19. Kinda more like.... Congrats Sanders. Excellent endorsement. No need to be petty, vile or attack
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:24 AM
Jan 2016

a webpage because Sanders got a good endorsement of a good Democratic org. Yea, Sanders.

See, simple.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
37. And yet, most other edorsements, or just plain old good news for Bernie, get attacked.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:47 AM
Jan 2016

So, Scuba's comment isn't without merit.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
152. Everything has been attacked: Sanders, his wife, his supporters, polls favorable to him,
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 07:50 AM
Jan 2016

his endorsements. I don't know where the holier than thou stuff is coming from, but I don't have amnesia and it's way too soon for me to forget in the ordinary course of things.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
163. Right?!? I dont get it either. They paint it as though hillary is the only one being attacked.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:30 AM
Jan 2016

They bemoan all the "attacks" coming at hillary in one breath and espouse how strong a candidate she is in another.

The instant someone points to the facts of hillary's voting history... the actual actions over all the lip-service... they start wailing the whoa-is-she lines.

Point to Bernie's actual voting record, and suddenly her supporters are singing the "Anything You Can Do" Duet, only Bernie's not partaking in the one-upsmanship. He doesn't need to. His record is self evident, and amazing.

She goes from being a victim to being strong so fast and frequently, its enough to make you dizzy.

WIProgressive88

(314 posts)
175. Agreed. There's bad behavior in both camps, but somehow the meme has spread that Sanders
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 02:25 AM
Jan 2016

supporters are responsible for all the negativity while Clinton backers are simply innocent angels. A few minutes browsing this site would show any rational person that this is not the case.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
48. well
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:13 AM
Jan 2016

Well as a democrat, not just a candidate "fan", I will vote for the winner of the primaries, and I will see the primary trends and work with the candidate that is winning, unlike others I have heard (both candidate supporters) who will not vote or go green, or turncoat GOP if their candidate loses.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
88. Not the same thing.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:14 PM
Jan 2016

Union LEADERS endorsed Hillary while their membership would have endorsed Bernie. MoveOn's MEMBERS voted to endorse Bernie and MoveOn listened to its members.

.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
92. Exactly. Large Union Leaders are likely a part of the Oligarchy/1% That's why they
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:21 PM
Jan 2016

didn't bother to poll their Peasants, I mean members.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
94. well if you've convinced yourself of that
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jan 2016

i would doubt the union leadership would go against the members, or a majority thereof.

TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
110. Union heads do it all the time
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 05:08 PM
Jan 2016

Leadership change isn't just needed in the political sphere . This will simply show yet another disconnect between the higher ups and the peons .

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
127. 2 years ago, my union negotiated behind the members backs, a contract that would have
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:41 PM
Jan 2016

resulted in 1 person crews for trains. Needless to say, it was overwhelmingly voted down. So yeah, union leadership can do stupid things and go against their members.

http://labornotes.org/2014/09/rail-workers-vote-down-single-person-crews

Last month, the union asked who they should endorse, if anybody, via email. I voted for Sanders. We'll see who we endorse if anyone soon.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
7. It's just another online poll padded by a couple of millennials who won't vote anyway.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:11 AM
Jan 2016

- random generic Clinton supporter

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
8. Wow!
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:11 AM
Jan 2016

Those three Sanders supporters must have been up for a week straight setting up multiple email accounts on multiple computers from multiple internet connections in order to establish multiple Move On memberships in order to vote multiple times.












sarcasm


tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
17. Thanks!
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:21 AM
Jan 2016

I love that line of "arguement" from Camp Weathervane. If it was true, it only supports the obvious enthusiasm gap between the two campaigns anyway as Clinton supporters would have the same opportunity but just don't care enough to do it. Either way, they lose.

 

snoringvoter

(178 posts)
57. My three capuchins just passed away from exhaustion
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:29 AM
Jan 2016

from all that clicking....

















































...I don't own any capuchins.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
38. LOL! Yeah,
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:48 AM
Jan 2016

this pretty much kills their bogus "they're not scientific polls!!!!!111!!!!!!!11!!!!! excuse! And this tightly controlled vote aligns PERFECTLY with every other online poll I've seen, so pffffft to their bullshit excuses from now on. Online polls better represent the REAL VOTERS, not their hand-picked demographic landline polls.

78% Bernie to 15% HRH!

Go Bernie!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
41. I agree 100%!
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:55 AM
Jan 2016

But then again, I'm posting on an internet message board that we all know is diluted by these 3 over active clickers in their mom's basement. Damn, I'm so confused right now.

stage left

(2,965 posts)
168. Done!
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 05:34 PM
Jan 2016

My clones and I will arise in time to phonebank on Saturday. Or knock on doors. We haven't decided. The people canvassing out of the Greenville office got a great response last Saturday. South Carolina is feeling the Bern!

Omaha Steve

(99,686 posts)
13. The Top 5 Reasons MoveOn Members Voted to Endorse Bernie (with the Most Votes and Widest Margin in )
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:17 AM
Jan 2016



The Top 5 Reasons MoveOn Members Voted to Endorse Bernie (with the Most Votes and Widest Margin in Our History)

http://tinyurl.com/zatelds

By Ilya Sheyman, Executive Director, MoveOn.org Political Action

With a record-setting 78.6 percent of 340,665 votes cast by the MoveOn membership, Senator Bernie Sanders has won MoveOn.org Political Action’s endorsement for president with the largest total and widest margin in MoveOn history.

MoveOn.org only endorses candidates based on votes by our members. Our only previous presidential endorsement during a Democratic primary was for Barack Obama, in early 2008. In 2004, no Democratic candidate reached the threshold for an endorsement.

Here are 5 of the top reasons MoveOn members support Bernie and will mobilize to get out the vote on his behalf in Iowa, New Hampshire, and other crucial early states.

1. Bernie’s lifelong commitment to standing up to corporate and 1% interests to fight for an economy where everyone has a fair shot.

FULL story at MoveOn link.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
20. YESSSS!!!!!!!
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:26 AM
Jan 2016

OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG! This. Is. Yuuuuuge!

Somebody PLEASE tell me when the Hillary supporters begin telling us how this is a bad thing and/or, it's meaningless, and/or not scientific.

Do you realize EVERY TIME the people get to vote they ALWAYS vote for Bernie? That is NOT nothing!

Wow.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
22. It is starting to make sense to me now.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:27 AM
Jan 2016

There are a lot of operatives, covert and otherwise trying to do a smear job on Bernie. A real peoples type organization that shows how REAL progressives feel comes out 78% for Bernie might make a lot people worry.

BainsBane

(53,041 posts)
30. I suppose I could go act like some of the Bernie supporters
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:32 AM
Jan 2016

and harass MoveOn for not endorsing who I want, but I won't because I respect the rights of others to make their own democratic choices, even when they don't mirror my own.

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
32. Well...
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:38 AM
Jan 2016

If you are a donor to MoveOn you might want to consider canceling the donation. You are well within your rights to do that.

But the truth is, MoveOn is unlikely to alienate a large number of their donors by this endorsement.

BainsBane

(53,041 posts)
36. Nor, I suspect, did Planned Parenthood
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jan 2016

Because anyone who joins and embraces anti-choice groups in efforts to defund Planned Parenthood never supported women's reproductive rights in the first place.

I'm not a current MoveOn donor, though I have given in the past.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
146. Mostly becuase even those who disagree with their endorsement are not
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:55 AM
Jan 2016

going to punish an organization they support simply because they disagree. That's now how liberals work. Which is also why there has been no actual "backlash" against PP, just a lot of people making a lot of noise online.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
119. Moveon is a political organization while Planned Parenthood shouldn't be.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 06:17 PM
Jan 2016

For PP to chose one of the three candidates that are all strong supporters, and snub the others, means that it must have been worth it to them to risk losing the support and donations. They were willing to risk losing donations to get in good favor with H. Clinton. One has to wonder what their reward was.

One small power people still have is that they can voice their support or objections via their donations. It would be a shame if based on DNC shenanigans like the PP endorsement, people stopped donating altogether. But that's not what's happening. There are a ton of good causes that all need donations and people are choosing to switch from PP to other good causes.

BainsBane

(53,041 posts)
177. It was PP's political arm that made the endorsement
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 11:16 AM
Jan 2016

and they have every right, indeed responsibility, to endorse the candidate who most proactively and aggressively stands up for PP and women's reproductive rights. Clearly that is Clinton. That Sanders has done nothing to stop his supporters from working to defund PP shows as much. If he won't reign in his own supporters, he can't be counted on to stand up to the GOP on the issue. Too many Sanders supporters believe our rights, like gun control and the rights of urban people to be safe from gun violence, are less important than what they want. That much has been clear for a long time and reinforced through the reaction to PP and Sybrina Fulton.

No one who legitimately cares about women's reproductive right or the poor women's access to healthcare moves to defund PP. Full Stop. And they certainly don't ally with, celebrate, or link to anti-choice sources and groups to do so.
Between PP, Fulton, and the reaction to BLM last summer, they demonstrated precisely what their priorities are.


 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
179. Planned Parenthood has never snubbed Democratic candidates in a primary race before.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jan 2016

The difference this time is that they were pressured by the Clinton Campaign. This action was a calculated risk, knowing full well that this slap in the face would upset donors, but apparently the reward was considered worth the risk.

In the face of the power of the wealthy 1% the People have little power, but one power they have is they control their donations. No one has advocated to stop donating to women's causes but just not via PP who has decided to snub Senator Sanders and Gov O'Malley and divide the Democratic Party for purely political reasons. The actions of people choosing to change who they donate to is not a call for defunding, like the Republicons, as you allege , but a statement to the leadership of PP not choose an endorsement that divides the Democratic Party. Not to spit in the face of those that strongly support PP.

Win at all costs is the culture we are fighting. We want an honest candidate in the General and that isn't HRC.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
143. "their own democratic choices" is the key expression in your post.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 01:03 AM
Jan 2016

The Move-On and DFA endorsements were voted on by the members of those organizations.

The Planned Parenthood and teachers' union endorsements, for example, were not democratic choices, they were choices by the leaders of the bureaucracies of those organizations. Not democratic at all.

Bernie wins democratic polls of organizations. Hillary wins the powers that be endorsements.

Bernie -- the populist. Hillary -- the favorite of the insiders. Bernie -- the favorite of the outsiders.

BainsBane

(53,041 posts)
178. You assert that
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 11:31 AM
Jan 2016

with absolutely no evidence. Some unions have published their vote counts and shown overwhelming support for Clinton. Hillary, the favorite of PP, unions, women's rights groups, John Lewis, Sibryna Fulton, on and on--all who have been declared enemies by a sizable contingent of Sanders supporters. What is clear is that too many of you refuse to respect anyone who cares about any issue or cause other than Bernie's career, which is not an issue at all.
Who people target says a great deal about who they are, particularly when they share the same enemies list as the GOP.

The sloganeering is getting old, particularly when it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Polls demonstrate that Bernie is supported largely by white middle to upper-middle class men and Clinton by the poor, women and working class and people of color. The attacks on Fulton demonstrate particularly clearly the impenetrable sense of entitlement by those certain their own views of Clinton are so much more important than Fulton's concerns about the gun violence that took her child's life.

Women whose children are killed by gun violence are not "insiders." Women who fight for equal rights, who deliver healthcare to the poorest communities in the nation, are not "insiders" because they refuse to prioritize the white male bourgeoisie above the rights of the majority. Your dismissal of them says everything about what Bernie's campaign has come to represent.

WIProgressive88

(314 posts)
174. Good for you. Unfortunately, some of your fellow Clinton supporters are being rather poor sports
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 02:22 AM
Jan 2016

about this endorsement, but I guess that's to be expected.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
33. When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:40 AM
Jan 2016

eom

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
42. When I see you type this,
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:56 AM
Jan 2016

I think of Tiny Tim: "God bless us all; everyone." Makes me all warm and fuzzy!

PatrickforO

(14,586 posts)
45. I'm sure not surprised.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:00 AM
Jan 2016

Good for Bernie. His subsequent win in the primaries and then the general election will be good for the whole world.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
47. Yayyyy!! Now, THIS is a big endorsement!
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:09 AM
Jan 2016

Victor and I have been members for years. They have a huge following and we are very happy with our endorsement. Thanks for the post, kenn3d.




 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
49. An internet poll that Supported Senator Sanders.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:14 AM
Jan 2016

Shocking. just shocking



It is a good endorsement. Congratulations. I'd be lying if I didn't say I wasn't jealous of the online support he gets. I wish my candidate would lie as much as he has and make impossible to achieve promises. He is indeed a great career politician and establishment pro.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
53. "I wish my candidate would lie as much as he has"
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:21 AM
Jan 2016

Perhaps if you look at your candidate's record you'll be very pleasantly surprised? Just a guess.

Uncle Joe

(58,389 posts)
54. Do Hillary's supporters not know how to vote on the Internet?
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:22 AM
Jan 2016


Bernie is a great career political leader and more people are increasingly learning that fundamental truth everyday.
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
68. Leader? LEADER?? I'm sorry, is this the joke of the day thread??
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:56 AM
Jan 2016

"political Leader" ROFLMAO now there's a funny statement if I've seen one. Thank you.

A political independent who's never been a part of actual leadership, legislating from the 2nd smallest population state in the union, and the second most homogeneous of the 50 (West Virginia is the ONLY state that has a more Homogeneous population)???

Uncle Joe, he hasn't been a "political leader".. he's been one of those 2 Muppet's who sit up in the balcony and heckles those who are actually in the leadership.



He's played it safe, and now sits back, makes promises that the office of the President can't cash, and everyone loves him for it..

Uncle Joe

(58,389 posts)
70. Bernie's track record and the people would disagree with you.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:07 PM
Jan 2016


As mayor, Sanders led extensive downtown revitalization projects. One of his signature achievements was the improvement of Burlington's Lake Champlain waterfront.[21] In 1981, Sanders campaigned against the unpopular plans by Tony Pomerleau, a Burlington developer, to convert the then-industrial[61] waterfront property owned by the Central Vermont Railway into expensive condominiums, hotels, and offices.[62] Sanders ran under the slogan "Burlington is not for sale" and successfully supported a plan that redeveloped the waterfront area into a mixed-use district featuring housing, parks, and public space.[62] Today, the waterfront area includes many parks and miles of public beach and bike paths, a boathouse, and a science center.[62] Burlington is now considered one of the most livable cities in the nation.[63][64]

In 1987, U.S. News ranked Sanders as one of America's best mayors.[65]

(snip)

Sanders entered the race for the U.S. Senate on April 21, 2005, after Senator Jim Jeffords announced that he would not seek a fourth term. Chuck Schumer, Chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, endorsed Sanders, a critical move as it meant that no Democrat running against Sanders could expect to receive financial help from the party. Sanders was also endorsed by Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada and Democratic National Committee Chairman and former Vermont Governor Howard Dean. Dean said in May 2005 that he considered Sanders an ally who "votes with the Democrats 98% of the time".[90] Then-Senator Barack Obama also campaigned for Sanders in Vermont in March 2006.[91] Sanders entered into an agreement with the Democratic Party, much as he had as a congressman, to be listed in their primary but to decline the nomination should he win, which he did.[92][93]

In the most expensive political campaign in Vermont's history,[94] Sanders defeated businessman Rich Tarrant by an approximately 2-to-1 margin. Many national media outlets projected Sanders as the winner before any returns came in. He was reelected in 2012 with 71% of the vote.[95]

Polling conducted in August 2011 by Public Policy Polling found that Sanders' approval rating was 67% and his disapproval rating 28%, making him then the third-most popular senator in the country.[96] Both the NAACP and the NHLA have given Sanders 100% voting scores during his tenure in the Senate.[97] In 2015 Sanders was named one of the Top 5 of The Forward 50.[98] In a November 2015 Morning Consult poll, Sanders had an approval rating of 83% among his constituents, making him the most popular senator in the country.[99]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders


cui bono

(19,926 posts)
91. I'm sorry you are so bitter.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jan 2016

Just switch over and be a Bernie supporter and you can be positive and happy too! Then you wouldn't have to jump in a positive thread about Bernie and make false accusations about him "lying". But I know, projection is the MO for Hillary supporters. The solution again is become a Bernie supporter. No projection needed!

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cui bono

(19,926 posts)
97. I don't know what that means, so...
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jan 2016

Why are you a Democrat when you have a sig line like that? What is Bernie for that you are so against?

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cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
101. Maybe Bernie stands against the MIC in the same way that Paul does that in the Republican Party...
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:10 PM
Jan 2016

... that Hillary doesn't like to do so much is upsetting to them. Perhaps they feel that supporting the war machine is a value we should have in this party and not push aside. That or we should like the government spying machine the way that Paul also protests that within the Republican Party, but Obama doesn't do much to control, and perhaps Clinton also likes to keep in place (as long as it works for her and doesn't have people go after her private email machine).

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
133. And what kind of "leadership" did H. Clinton show when George Bush asked her to join him
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 08:28 PM
Jan 2016

and betray her own party? Her kind of "leadership" we don't want.

"and everyone loves him for it.." They love him because he is honest. A huge change from the political Establishment that H. Cllinton is a big part of. DWS makes no bones about her bias for HRC.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
129. erm
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:46 PM
Jan 2016

is it like programming that DVR thing?

Ask them after "The Mentalist" is over. That young man is so nice, he reminds me of my grandson.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
135. I doubt too many Hillary supporters
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 08:59 PM
Jan 2016

care about online polls

We care more about the polls that actually mean something like in the primaries

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
140. of course I will
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:49 AM
Jan 2016

of course Hillary will have clinched the nomination by the time my state's primary rolls around but there are state and local races that will be decided as well

Uncle Joe

(58,389 posts)
142. So why do you so readily discount on line polls like Move On's? Do believe Bernie's supporters
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:52 AM
Jan 2016

are any less committed to voting for him in the primaries?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
128. "impossible to achive promises" like a mathematically impossible magic encryption backdoor that only
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:46 PM
Jan 2016

"good guys" can use?

Hey, if we start a "Manhattan Project" to do it, I'm sure we can achieve the vitally important social goal of making sure no one can encrypt their snapchats.

I'm sure there will be plenty of funds left over after we spend 10 Billion dollars to ramp up the drug war.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
50. Yes!
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:15 AM
Jan 2016

I knew that was going to be the end result...but didn't think that high of percentage.

GO Bernie!

GO Berners!

GOTV!

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
73. Oddly enough, the percentage just about exactly matches
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jan 2016

those focus groups and on-line polls after the first two debates. You know, the ones that disappeared rather quickly so the "pundits" could proclaim Hillary the winner.

And isn't it odd, that if Hillary really has the support of most people, that the majority of them haven't a clue how to use the internet?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
74. What GREAT news to wake up to!
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:37 PM
Jan 2016

Sun's up bright 'n strong this AM and then I read of MoveOn's endorsement! WOO-HOO! A mink-hair shy of 4/5ths of the membership seeing the sun, just like I do. 79% feelin' the BERN - just as I do. It's FAN-tastic! And I won't even have to be "thinking about it" as we STEAM ROLL over the opposition. Lovin' - Lovin' - Lovin' it!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
158. reminds me of a client says things like
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:05 AM
Jan 2016

"And these sales people are sleeker than a mink's privates."

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
75. little reminder of what HRC said about Moveon back in 08'
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:49 PM
Jan 2016

Moveon.org endorsed [Sen. Barack Obama] -- which is like a gusher of money that never seems to slow down," Clinton said to a meeting of donors. "We have been less successful in caucuses because it brings out the activist base of the Democratic Party. MoveOn didn't even want us to go into Afghanistan. I mean, that's what we're dealing with. And you know they turn out in great numbers. And they are very driven by their view of our positions, and it's primarily national security and foreign policy that drives them. I don't agree with them. They know I don't agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who actually show up

That is not very nice , how do you disparage a liberal group that was started to help stop impeachment of Bill Clinton smh

Well Moveon member made their voices heard

Congrats to Sen. Sanders for being a liberal ,fighter, and someone who will bring about change

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
93. Wow.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:23 PM
Jan 2016

Hard to believe I can keep learning more and more things that show me that Hillary is NOT a liberal and in fact, has disdain for liberals. Kind of tired of being ignored and told to STFU and called f-in retards.

Time for Bernie!!!

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one_voice

(20,043 posts)
84. Congrats Bernie. It's a good endorsement.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jan 2016

I will donate to them just as I did to PP.

I support organizations that support Democrats/issues I support.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
87. 78.6 percent !!!
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jan 2016

Me thinks Hillary and the establishment are going to be very surprised when the votes start being counted.

FEEL THE BERN!!!


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bvar22

(39,909 posts)
104. bvar22 endorses MoveOn for rejoining the fight.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:24 PM
Jan 2016

They took 8 years OFF during the Obama Administration, and I took 8 years off donating to them after they suddenly stopped publicly opposing our rape and pillaging of the Middle East.

Though I strongly approve of the endorsement, I still don't trust MoveOn.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
120. Since there are some who don't understand the difference between this and Planned Parenthood...
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 06:18 PM
Jan 2016

MoveOn asked its members to vote on whether the organization should endorse a candidate in the primary, and if so, who. After nearly 4 out of 5 members voted for a candidate (far above the 2/3 required), they provided the promised endorsement.

The head of the Planned Parenthood PAC (whose daughter coincidentally works on the Clinton campaign) endorsed a candidate based on her own personal views without consulting those who have donated to that organization or even asking supporters who they believed would best represent the needs of PP.

That's a pretty big difference.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
130. We are not the fringe.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jan 2016

I keep hearing that Bernie supporters are way too liberal and that very liberal people are the fringe of the Democratic party. Clearly this is not true.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
132. Some people try to say that H. Clinton is progressive. Well this progressive organization
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 08:20 PM
Jan 2016

doesn't agree.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
162. Considering MoveOn was the organization that started
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:23 AM
Jan 2016

Run Warren Run I feel like this should have happened already. Its still wonderful though!

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