Even Former MRAs Think That MRAs Are Embarrassing and Horrible

[ismnotwasm]

Men's rights activism — a term most often applied to wounded community of daft, delusional, and often malignant denizens of the Internet who think that feminism threatens their basic rights and that rape isn't even that big of a deal — has had a busy week bringing shame to its already quite besmirched name. In the past few days, MRAs have launched a defamatory campaign against Kate Winslet over poorly-supported fears that she's hogging the custody of her children, and they've inundated Occidental's anonymous rape reporting form — which is meant only to gather data on sexual assault, not to accuse anyone of anything — with false claims. Ugh, fending off the creeping Feminazi Apocalypse is hard work. Good thing someone's out there to keep those rape victims from oppressing and silencing us all.

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And so it's beyond vindicating to see that a self-proclaimed former MRA has posted a rant about the movement on Reddit, where the MRA hivemind lurks. (Yes, I'm aware that this could be fake — but I WANT TO BELIEVE, and it's prompted a lot of interesting discussion). The Redditor, writing under a throwaway account, points out that men's rights could be a useful movement, and it's a fair point:

For example, men who put other men down for liking feminine traits, or how male rape/molestation victims aren't treated with the same respect as female ones. While feminism does work to address these problems, it would be nice to have a "men only" type safe space/group that other men could use to vent, talk, or show SUPPORT against the way society puts men in these awful constraints or stereotypes.

It's true that a lot of the oppression that MRAs think they face is oppression that feminism broadly addresses — feminists work against all forms of domestic violence, feminists fight against the constrictive gender norms that constrain both men and women, feminists do not want to keep men in cages, etc. But if the men's rights movement worked with feminism, instead of against it, and functioned as a safe space for men to share their specific experiences navigating masculinity, that would be great. Everyone could be happy. With that said, the current MRA movement is terrible. As the former MRA puts it:

More:

http://jezebel.com/even-former-mras-think-that-mras-are-embarrassing-and-h-1487309337

[smirkymonkey]

1. +1000

They are an embarrasment to humanity.

[boston bean]

2. Take a look at the mens group here and you will find every single one of these

protestations against feminism... but nope, they aren't MRA!

From the article at Jezebel you linked to, and a former MRA that spoke up, his comments:

Men are the number 1 victim of war. This is true...except the neglect to mention how this is due to the fact that until recently, men didn't ALLOW women to engage in war, and how women and men have been fighting to change this unfair law.

Men work more dangerous jobs compared to women. Again, this is technically true, but again they neglect WHY THAT IS, such as it's a male dominated field that won't allow women to enter, or how women don't feel safe taking white collar jobs because the rate of male on female abuse is fucking high.

Men never get custody of their children. It's true that women get custody more than men, but once again, they neglect to mention that most divorce cases are contested and that means that there was no fight in court, they BOTH mutually agreed to those terms. Further, they ignore how men who actually fight in court usually win.

Men shouldn't have to pay child support for an unwanted child. Yeah, then who the fuck is going to help pay and raise the child if not the other parent who had a hand in creating it? Ask them that question and watch them have no answer or say "She should just abort it or give it up for adoption if she can't afford it herself!", as if it's that easy.

Men are often victims of false rape accusations. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it rarely happens, yet MRAs act like every woman is one argument away from calling the cops.

[boston bean]

3. adding this last paragraph.. says it all...

MRAs: pretty much everyone thinks you sound batshit insane, even (and perhaps especially) those who are actually deeply concerned with the rights of men. To review, quickly: the government is not controlled by a radical feminist agenda. The occurrence of false rape reports is grossly exaggerated in the media. And no one wants to take away your rights — unless you think "the ability to freely infringe upon the rights of others" is something you, as a man, should be guaranteed at birth. Time to remove your fedoras and enter the real world.

[seabeyond]

4. absolutely. i did take note as i was reading. yes. nt