Don't mean to intrude, but I posted a thread in GD that may be of interest...

[nomorenomore08]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024243969

[Tuesday Afternoon]

1. I replied ... in the thread. n/t

[cinnabonbon]

2. You raised a very good point.

Thanks for making it.

[BainsBane]

3. Too many have conflated tone with civility and community standards

When that isn't at all what is at issue when someone attacks feminists for their "tone."

[Tuesday Afternoon]

4. Thing is Baines ... People are not recognzing the patronizing/condscending tone that

starts the whole process. They are willing to take a post at face value and are absolutely refusing/unwilling to see the snide tone that starts it all.

There is tone on both sides of the issue.

Tone is How something is said along with What is being said. (this is for the benefit of others who may be reading this group)

[seabeyond]

5. ya. i do not buy it. i went into the thread for discussion. what i found was a thread

of people that do not like hof, insulting us thru out as they lectured us on tone. i found it really absurd in the transparency.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

6. yes, sea ... it has finally devolved to that. Yes. I was just trying to explain how the path

got us there in the first place.

I knew from the first month of the formation of DU3 that P/A tone would be hard to handle/deal with.

The admin, imo still have not found a successful way to deal with it.

Goading is taking place and the Goaders are are hardly ever alerted on therefore rarely hidden.

Whereas the goadee that eventually Pops Off at the Goader and calls them on their bullshit is alerted on and usually hidden for using foul language.

The astute and discerning reader sees it happening but, is at a loss on how to deal with it all.

Being stupid is OK on DU3. Calling out people for being stupid and explaining to them why they have embraced a stupid position is not an easy thing to do. You handle it with more grace and aplomb than I ever could. I retreat while, Forward On You GO.

I admire and respect you for doing it. Others, however, don't and that is just the simple fact of the matter at issue.

Why they don't respect you? I don't know.

[seabeyond]

8. ah tuesday...

you coddle and stroke so well. i say this as a compliment. i am seeing a pattern. you are very good. very diplomatic. kinda like what it would be like having dealt with passive aggressive and narcissism for a lifetime.

just an interesting thought, i felt in this.

you can become very intuned to a person.

interesting.

thanks.

know... i do a lot of coddling and stroking in my own way and it is a good thing. in no way disparaging.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

10. oh- sea- my heart is really hurting today -

trumad ... and ... soon ... you ... to follow ...

and what is left behind ... bad juju at work here.

very bad juju.

[seabeyond]

11. ya. reading trumad. listening to the posters in his OP. yardwork. a safe haven for these

couple posters to throw out the message kNOWING they will meet only with respect cause that is all we allow in this forum. and...

we are the bad guy.

it seems so loud and clear and saying so so so much.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

12. *sigh*

I have a lot to do today and absolutely MUST sign off. Will be back later this evening.

~*~*~*~ Sending out Love and Light Strongest Vibes ~*~*~*~

[ismnotwasm]

7. Nice

[seabeyond]

9. hey ism... like,

i truly loved your post.

sigh.