Ok, wait... Back up a minute...

[TDale313]

Are we really seeing the case being made by some in GD that those who bring up the misogyny of Elliott Rodger are basically just trying to make misogyny and MRA groups look bad? As if there's good misogyny? Am I understanding that right? Really? Cause this is kinda making my brain hurt.

[johnp3907]

1. I'm afraid so.

[bravenak]

2. Yeah.

You are not going blind.

[TDale313]

3. Damn

I was really kinda hoping you'd tell me I was totally misunderstanding, cause... wow.

[bravenak]

10. Sorry.

It's scary for me too.

[JoeyT]

4. That pretty well sums it up.

I'm a bit iffy on calling him an "extremist misogynist" even, because that implies there are moderate misogynists.

[nomorenomore08]

9. There are degrees of everything. But in this case, it's all not-good nonetheless.

Elliot Rodger, and your average MRA or anti-choicer, are merely different points on the same spectrum.

[seabeyond]

5. it is all, so weird. nt

[TDale313]

6. Very. n/t

[ismnotwasm]

7. Yup

There are MRA's here at DU who won't admit it for one. And frightened assholes afraid of losing their entitled status for two.

[nomorenomore08]

8. And the struggle for human rights is reduced to "pushing a political agenda."

No different from accusing civil rights or LGBT activists of the same.

[Maedhros]

11. I say we own that.

Yes - I am pushing a political agenda: to find solutions to these kinds of hateful acts.

What kind of agenda should I push?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

12. I like that approach. Own and wear it. Be loud and Be proud.

Fuck the dumb.

[seabeyond]

13. exactly. when i can look in the mirror. you are right on. nt

[MadrasT]

14. Yeah, it's kind of like saying

the KKK isn't so bad... except for those unfortunate lynchings.

[Squinch]

15. Perfect analogy.

[theHandpuppet]

16. You know what I find so discouraging?

If there's this amount of denial on DU, a supposedly progressive forum (and getting less so by the day), I just don't know how the hell we can have an honest, national discourse regarding misogyny and how it devastates our society, much less the world. Perhaps I'm just feeling a bit deflated this morning -- or emotionally and psychologically battered might be a more apt description.

[redqueen]

17. This site's demographics skew male, white, and older ...

Take heart, progressives elsewhere are more diverse, and less brogressive!

[YoungDemCA]

18. True enough

Good points.