Know The Difference ...

[Tuesday Afternoon]

from = Official Laci Green @ https://www.facebook.com/officiallacigreen?fref=photo

[brer cat]

1. Well that should get the point across

to those who need a knock upside the head to understand.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

2. ... lol ...

[redqueen]

3. How about someone insisting on buying you things,

and when you keep refusing, they say something like, 'Let me spoil you.'

IMO that is also harassment, and it's the kind that has to be pointed out because people think its just 'being nice'.

Using these kind of blatantly obvious examples seems not as helpful as it could be. Just MHO.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

4. I agree and understand.

What you are talking about is insidious, subtle, pervasive, bordering on "seduction" and the playing of mind games.

And shows just how ingrained into our consciousness is the Benevolent Patriarchal Society and how truly harmful it has been to us all.

We have a long way to go and still we have those who lag behind to the point that even this blatant display needs to be brought to the forefront.

[MadrasT]

5. If a compliment is freely offered,

then the person offering the compliment does not get OFFENDED if the recipient of the compliment doesn't act the way they expect.

If you get OFFENDED because someone doesn't receive your "compliment" graciously enough, then the compliment was never actually intended to make the other person feel good. It was for you to use to score points with that person. Which is the wrong use of a compliment.

I have a friend who continually gets pissy if you don't react with enough gratitude to their compliments. Which seems very fucking weird to me. It makes me feel he thinks I am a vending machine. "Insert compliment, receive gratitude."

Transactional relationships suck.

[redqueen]

6. I agree - transactional relationships suck.

There's a guy all over the BUT IT'S NORMAL FOR MEN TO BUY SEX!!!1!1 thread who insists there is no other kind of relationship.

Very sad.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

7. even sadder to me was the one that was willing to pay for a hug.

[redqueen]

8. Conditioning boys not to appear weak or vulnerable has a price.

I am not ashamed to ask for a hug if I need one.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

9. Stoicism (and I understand what you saying) crosses genders.

I think of Pink Floyd and Thoreau ... "quiet desperation" is the English way and other Nordic races seem to have this trait.

This conditioning of :suck it up: or the :stiff upper lip:

My family on my Mother's side was not a very :huggy: family.

Touching is a Human Requirement for nurturing emotionally healthy growth no matter the sex/gender.

I can not wait for the day That Women Are Recognized as Humans therefore deserving of Human Rights.

I can not wait for society to move past patriarchy into something more of a (and here I want to say the gender neutral) brotherhood.

Is there such a word for what I want to say?

on edit ... perhaps = humanhood ...

[redqueen]

10. Most men do not buy sex to get hugs.

I find the constant assertion that because a very small minority of sex buyers do - and therfore it justifies calling prostitution a 'need' - incredibly offensive. Thousands and thousands of women and children who are trafficked every year, to be used by a dozen or thirty men per day - and not for hugs - deserve far more consideration than those very few men, however sad their stories.

In discussions about industries which treat human beings as consumable goods, in which large groups of people are determined to drown our any voices that try to advocate for the many oppressed people, in favor of a tiny, privileged minority, I am less inclined to be sidetracked by such issues.

I do agree with you, but it's a different issue.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

11. It is not a need, I agree with that and, using it to rationalize/justify their actions is

not being honest with themselves.
They want to frame it in those terms and make sex a commodity to be bought and sold on Wall Street.

They say we are all slaves in one manner or another.


That is the issue with those types of OPs.

Forget all the women and children suffering.

Supposedly, all that can be magically fixed if/when prostitution is legalized.

I seriously doubt it but, if that is what it takes for the rest of society to catch up to the notion of
Human (including Women and Children) Rights I fear that we may have to go through it to get to a better place.

[littlemissmartypants]

12. Power and Control.

When we we start talking about this?