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el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 12:03 AM Feb 2015

Interesting comments by Bjork on her musical career

From an interview she did with Pitchfork magazine.

I didn’t want to talk about that kind of thing for 10 years, but then I thought, “You’re a coward if you don’t stand up. Not for you, but for women. Say something.” So around 2006, I put something on my website where I cleared something up, because it’d been online so many times that it was becoming a fact. It wasn’t just one journalist getting it wrong, everybody was getting it wrong. I’ve done music for, what, 30 years? I’ve been in the studio since I was 11; Alejandro had never done an album when I worked with him. He wanted to put something on his own Twitter, just to say it’s co-produced. I said, “No, we’re never going to win this battle. Let’s just leave it.” But he insisted. I’ve sometimes thought about releasing a map of all my albums and just making it clear who did what. But it always comes across as so defensive that, like, it’s pathetic. I could obviously talk about this for a long time.

Pitchfork: The world has a difficult time with the female auteur.

B: I have nothing against Kanye West. Help me with this—I’m not dissing him—this is about how people talk about him. With the last album he did, he got all the best beatmakers on the planet at the time to make beats for him. A lot of the time, he wasn’t even there. Yet no one would question his authorship for a second. If whatever I’m saying to you now helps women, I’m up for saying it. For example, I did 80% of the beats on Vespertine and it took me three years to work on that album, because it was all microbeats—it was like doing a huge embroidery piece. Matmos came in the last two weeks and added percussion on top of the songs, but they didn’t do any of the main parts, and they are credited everywhere as having done the whole album. [Matmos’] Drew [Daniel] is a close friend of mine, and in every single interview he did, he corrected it. And they don’t even listen to him. It really is strange.

Pitchfork: How does it make you feel when this happens now?

B: I have to say—I got a feeling I am going to win in the long run, but I want to be part of the zeitgeist, too. I want to support young girls who are in their 20s now and tell them: You’re not just imagining things. It’s tough. Everything that a guy says once, you have to say five times. Girls now are also faced with different problems. I’ve been guilty of one thing: After being the only girl in bands for 10 years, I learned—the hard way—that if I was going to get my ideas through, I was going to have to pretend that they—men—had the ideas. I became really good at this and I don’t even notice it myself. I don’t really have an ego. I’m not that bothered. I just want the whole thing to be good. And I’m not saying one bad thing about the guys who were with me in the bands, because they’re all amazing and creative, and they’re doing incredible things now. But I come from a generation where that was the only way to get things done. So I have to play stupid and just do everything with five times the amount of energy, and then it will come through.


It's an interesting interview (I know there's a limit to quoting from an article, but not sure how that works with interviews so if I'm over the limit I apologize).

Bryant
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Interesting comments by Bjork on her musical career (Original Post) el_bryanto Feb 2015 OP
really excellent interview... druidity33 Feb 2015 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #2
Very succinctly put - but wrong. el_bryanto Feb 2015 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #4
Irony. The definition of: Sheldon Cooper Feb 2015 #5
seems like i missed something; but then again maybe not. nt el_bryanto Feb 2015 #6
It just the troll ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #7

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
1. really excellent interview...
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 07:37 AM
Feb 2015

Saw the Sugarcubes at their first US appearance (1985?) in NYC. I waited at the stage door (The old Ritz) for them to arrive for their sound-check. Got to meet the band and give her flowers. Einar was a jerk. Bjork was adorable. An amazing show.

K&R

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el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
3. Very succinctly put - but wrong.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 08:52 AM
Feb 2015

First of all Bjork may not be your cup of tea, but she's clearly extraordinarily talented.

Secondly, it's rare for a male musician who collaborates but who's name is on the project to not get credit. It's common for a woman's collaborators to get the bulk of the credit for the actual work.

Bryant

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Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
5. Irony. The definition of:
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 09:29 AM
Feb 2015
That seems to be the common factor among all feminists who claim men don't listen to them or give them the credit they deserve.


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