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Emmy Noether, the Most Significant Mathematician You've Never Heard Of

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/27/science/emmy-noether-the-most-significant-mathematician-youve-never-heard-of.html

Scientists are a famously anonymous lot, but few can match in the depths of her perverse and unmerited obscurity the 20th-century mathematical genius Amalie Noether.

Albert Einstein called her the most “significant” and “creative” female mathematician of all time, and others of her contemporaries were inclined to drop the modification by sex. She invented a theorem that united with magisterial concision two conceptual pillars of physics: symmetry in nature and the universal laws of conservation. Some consider Noether’s theorem, as it is now called, as important as Einstein’s theory of relativity; it undergirds much of today’s vanguard research in physics, including the hunt for the almighty Higgs boson. Yet Noether herself remains utterly unknown, not only to the general public, but to many members of the scientific community as well.

When Dave Goldberg, a physicist at Drexel University who has written about her work, recently took a little “Noether poll” of several dozen colleagues, students and online followers, he was taken aback by the results. “Surprisingly few could say exactly who she was or why she was important,” he said. “A few others knew her name but couldn’t recall what she’d done, and the majority had never heard of her.”

Noether (pronounced NER-ter) was born in Erlangen, Germany, 130 years ago this month. So it’s a fine time to counter the chronic neglect and celebrate the life and work of a brilliant theorist whose unshakable number love and irrationally robust sense of humor helped her overcome severe handicaps — first, being female in Germany at a time when most German universities didn’t accept female students or hire female professors, and then being a Jewish pacifist in the midst of the Nazis’ rise to power.

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Reply Emmy Noether, the Most Significant Mathematician You've Never Heard Of (Original post)
redqueen Mar 2012 OP
Cirque du So-What Mar 2012 #1
villager Mar 2012 #2
eppur_se_muova Mar 2012 #3
Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2012 #4
redqueen Mar 2012 #5
mathematic Mar 2012 #6
caraher Mar 2012 #7
Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #9
usrname Mar 2012 #8

Response to redqueen (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 12:04 PM

1. I've familiar with her

but I went to a private liberal-arts school that required a term paper for every class taken, and I chose Emmy Noether for one of the numerous math classes I took. She made significant contributions in the area of topology as well.

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 12:09 PM

2. Thanks -- I hadn't! But let's not forget Hypatia of Alexandria, either!


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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 12:46 PM

3. Wasn't Noether's (First) Theorem prominently mentioned in the Feynman Lectures on Physics?

I seem to recall that's where I first heard of it.

If so, I wouldn't think she's so "unknown" among math and science geeks.

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:16 PM

4. Women in Mathematics, by Lynn M. Osen, MIT Press.

She's in there with Hypatia, Caroline Herschel, Sonia Corvin-Krukovsky Kovalesky, and others.

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:38 PM

5. This is from the NYT

So the audience is the average newspaper reader moreso than math geeks, much less academics.

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Thu Mar 29, 2012, 07:19 PM

6. Definitely one of my favorite mathematicians

Forget that physics stuff. That's just there because connecting somebody to physics is how significance is communicated to the general public.

Noether's most important contribution (and probably why she isn't well known outside of mathematicians) is how she revolutionized the study of algebra. It's hard to understate her contributions. Algebra through the 1800s was very ad hoc. Noether used simple definitions and proof techniques to generalize (and simplify) the study of algebra. Today, these generalizations are as commonly used by mathematicians as text messaging is used by teenagers.

Perhaps another way to communicate her contributions is how algebra is taught today compared to how it was taught in Gauss' day (early 1800s). (Note: this isn't the algebra of high school). If you studied euclidian geometry in high school it's, more or less, the same thing that's been taught for millennia. Subjects like calculus and (college) algebra are very different from how the pioneers in these fields originally came up with the ideas. Noether is responsible for the change in algebra and Cauchy is responsible for the change in calculus (and mathematics in general). This type of mathematics, though not glamorous, is vital to the advancement of the field.

As for her general notoriety... be honest how many famous mathematicians can you (the general public) name at all?

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Response to mathematic (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:32 AM

7. Bah!

Noether's theorem is the very foundation of modern theoretical particle physics - mentioning it is no mere sop to communication with the general public. Every physicist knows who she is, though we're less familiar with the work mathematicians get excited about.

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Response to mathematic (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 8, 2012, 07:54 PM

9. Sierpinski, Julia and Mandelbrot, those are the only ones that come to mind.

So it's nice to see women excelling in what has been a historically male-dominated field. Our country needs to improve math and science education to keep up.. thanks for this!

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Response to redqueen (Original post)

Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:26 PM

8. Noether

 

came to the US and taught at Bryn Mawr (I believe). One anecdote that was told about Emmy Noether was about her talking about "killing the conductor" about some topic in mathematics. (The conductor was some mathematical entity and killing it was to find where it turned zero, or something like that.) In german, "conductor" is "fuehrer" and Noether was in a subway with some other mathematicians and she goes on vehemently discussing killing the fuehrer. All the other mathematicians turned paled in fright. (This was in the 1930s.) Noether was completely clueless about what she was saying, but all the other mathematicians were completely frightened to death.

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