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Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)add: the first question that pops into my mind is to ask you why .............
DPC.Comment
(42 posts)Because I thought it woudl be a site where progressives debate ideas. Instead, it is a "group think" zone that doesn't encourage or allow dissent -- that I find as mindless as the meaningless as the a Tea Party site must be.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)We all want a better country that treats everyone as equals.
We disagree on how best to do that
Sorry it did not work for you
Dragon
DPC.Comment
(42 posts)....I'm a liberal gay man, who is liberal in nearly every area except for one admittedly non-liberal position: I am entirely pro-life. I've already been blocked censored for being "rude and hurtful" because I dared speak my opinion on the matter.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)hunter
(38,309 posts)If anything, a Social Justice Catholic and a radical ecologist. If don't succeed in living up to my ideals in "real life" (I still drive a car, for example) I can still surely seek a path in politics that leads toward my Utopia.
I'll strongly support Obama because he's an extraordinarily competent leader whose goals lie somewhat in the direction of my own.
Romney and Ryan make my skin crawl, the same sick feeling I got witnessing Bush and Cheney. I think Ralph Nader played a part in Bush-Cheney horror too, maybe not so much as the corrupt election officials and the Supreme Court did, but Nader certainly contributed to the suppression of the Democratic Party vote. The Democratic and Republican Parties are not the same.
And yep, I'm "Pro-life" too, but it's not mine to make that choice for anyone else. I think there's something terribly wrong, yes even sinful, about the people who protest in front of Planned Parenthood, obstruct Planned Parenthood's funding and the funding of institutions like it, or think people like Pharmacists should be able to decide for themselves not to supply a town with contraceptives or "morning after" pills.
I'm flying my Rainbow flag here at DU at least until gay marriage is federal law. Marriage is a civil right.
If you can't tolerate people telling you that you are rude when you have been rude, if you can dish it out but you can't take it, well then no, this is not the place for you.
I've enjoyed quite a few angry outbursts in the years I've been here, and I've taken some heat for my positions and sometimes my strong language. But I'm still here.
DPC.Comment
(42 posts)hunter you really think it is sinful to try to save an unborn baby...to change the mind of a woman who would end that life? so you would protest killing a 500 year old tree but not a woman killing an eternal child of god? hmmm.....i'm not sure I can go that route.
i can handle people telling me I am rude....just wasn't crazy about being blocked for stating an opinion that the censors thought didn't fit traditional liberal dogma.
hunter
(38,309 posts)But yeah, sinful. There are a lot of self-righteous deceitful pricks in the anti-abortion business who ought to be cowering in their closets praying for their own souls.
DPC.Comment
(42 posts)sins of the right aren't more (or less) grave than sins on the left, so that was kinda self righteous, bro. Either way, you just proved my point...this site isn't a site populated by people interested in open, liberal-minded discussion. It is more a site for people who need self affirmation.
Akoto
(4,266 posts)fadedrose
(10,044 posts)BUT, I feel that I cannot tell a woman to not have an abortion without offering to take and raise the child, regardless of its sex, ethnic background, health, or conditions under which it was conceived, or the medical background of the parents. That takes a lot of nerve.
Many children who were not wanted and were not aborted are often mistreated, abused, and generally not cared for, come home from school to an empty house, or where parents are under drugs, go without dinner or help with homework, have no clean clothes, are riciduled or worse, were compelled to get involved in crime just to get necessities. The prisons are filled with them.
As a Democrat, I feel that by supporting elected officials who pass laws to help children get food, clothing, and help the mother to get day care, food stamps, medical care, I may discourage a woman from even considering getting an abortion. An out-of-wedlock kid is not a disgrace anymore. To a Dem, the disgrace is in not helping the mother.
A question for you....when you look at the number of people in prison in this country, do you ever wonder if they wish they weren't born?
Do what you will..
moobu2
(4,822 posts)Just don't expect to go around telling other people what medical decisions they can make for themselves without them taking up for themselves.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)even if they are your opinion and you say them in a rational non-rude way.
To be fair, not EVERYONE blocked you. There are just a few posters who run around hitting the alert button on everyone they disagree with.
Some jurors in voting whether to hide a post or not, gauge it solely on whether they agree with the post that was alerted on. I've served on some juries and seen responses that were comments disagreeing with the SUBSTANCE of the alerted-on post, rather than whether it's against the rules or rude, etc.
I could probably even write a list of what you are not allowed to say, according to those few posters.
Keep in mind it's not everyone. Most will accept a differing opinion and will simply argue back and forth with you, and THEY will be RUDE to you, but not alert on you.
You can expect some strenuous arguments when you disagree with something that's legal and a constitutional right, though. Which is as it should be. People SHOULD strongly argue for their constitional rights.
Turn it around. You say you are gay. Are you accepting of posters who are anti-gay, under all circumstances? Would you consider their posts not hurtful, not rude?
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)ret5hd
(20,489 posts)While standing upright, and with eyes closed, click your heels 3 times whiles saying "I'm a twit... I'm a twit... I'm a twit."
If you follow these instructions to the letter you will say "I'm a twit" a total of 9 times. Make sure you do this in front of your most trusted friends. Following this they will chant "THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU!!!"
At this point the spell will be broken and you will be free.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)And no fair retroactively un-twitting, either.
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)Like DU catacombs?
Stinky The Clown
(67,786 posts)Ptah
(33,024 posts)Step #2, click on this link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=logout
Step #3, blog about how poorly you have been treated on http://www.democraticunderground.com/index.php
Step #4, repeat
George Mainstein
(2 posts)I side with DPC. This site is a joke. I too thought it would be a site with various viewpoints. It isnt. It just another totalitarian site allowing only one point of view.
Ptah
(33,024 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Thanks for clearing that up.
William769
(55,144 posts)Or better yet the people that argue or disagree with me given the memo!
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)Now, how to get the carpet in the photocopier...
MADem
(135,425 posts)liking, whydoncha?
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)I often post when I disagree with other DUers and vice versa.
You're thinking of Free Republic. Try over there ---->
MADem
(135,425 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)and say to him:
"do to me what you did to Walt Star"
and POOF! Your wish shall be granted.
trust me..this always works.
1GirlieGirl
(261 posts)This is someone who very politely asked for HELP deleting their account. Look at all the juvenile, catty, immature, mean-spirited personal attacks they got in response. No wonder they want to leave.
To the OP: if you find a forum made up of grown-ups that actually adheres to its own stated mission, hook a sista up!
Ptah
(33,024 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)The first several responses were perfectly reasonable (except maybe the joke reply, but even that wasn't mean-spirited).
It wasn't until after the OP posted reply #5, which was snarky and insulting to DU, that others became more...spirited. By that time, it was fairly obvious DU wasn't a good fit for that poster.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Because someone dares to state (in a non-rude fashion) a direct experience or observation, that therefore all holds barred, and the gimps are let out? (ref. to Pulp Fiction)
He simply stated he found the site to be a group think place like a tea party place.
The obvious response to that is that...this is a progressive site, and therefore, there is a sort of group think to it. That's one of the bases of a site of like-minded people. That doesn't mean that varying opinions are not accepted, as long as they fall into a "DU" focus area, and even outside of that, as long as mainly the person is of a progressive mindset.
Now THAT'S how you respond to a serious criticism of group think. Not "Oh, yeah...well, your mama wears army boots! Take that!"
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)I could tell them to go fuck themselves. What they did was accuse me and other active DUers of "groupthink" and use this thread as an excuse to spout off disgusting anti-women b.s.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)slydog1227
(23 posts)Well I'm extremely thick skinned, and I can take as good as I give when it comes to differences of opinion. I've only been here for 5 days and I've already had a post "hidden" by the jury for being rude or crude! "Post was rude and offensive from a 1 day newbie!"
Hell...I'm 52 and I've been a democrat for 40 of those years! NEWBIES ASS! But what hurt more was I read the words "f**k" "s**t" "d**k" and about another dozen in some form or fashion on almost every thread I see on here. Yet I used the words "f**ng" and "d**k" as sarcasm and in a joke, not directed at anyone as most of the profanity I see, and I get reported and hidden? HAHAHAHA! WTF ever!
Obviously you can degrade someone with names and obscenities if your part of the "club", but don't try and be humorous, if you're a "newbie"! Sensitive, whiny ASSHOLES! I see your point DPC, but they're gonna have to kick me out! If you want them to cancel your account, my advice is.....send me a private message and I'll tell you the silly shit I got reported for, and you can post that on every thread until they delete your account! I'm sure that will get you deleted quicker than anything else you might try!
1GirlieGirl
(261 posts)If you're one of the Chosen, you can say anything you want and you'll be defended. But if you're a "nobody", as I was called, you get hidden.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Are you familiar with slydog1227's post that was hidden? I'm sure it was only hidden 'cause he's new.
Gross!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=106369
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)slydog1227
(23 posts)because I was a newbie. I said the person who reported it stated "and from a one day newbie!" Their words, not mine. So you find it gross. I found it funny! And I'm lucky I wasn't tomb stoned??? Seriously? So I would like the two of you to tell me... when is "dick" not a "dick"? Why is "fuck" allowed on every other post and no one seems to be reporting them, yet they have a problem with me saying it? If the original tagger found offense with mine, then they are nothing less than hypocrites if they don't flag every post that contains those words. You either have a problem with it, or you don't. That's not hard to understand is it? I take from this that those words are offensive, and that they need to start policing other instances of cursing more consistently.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)In response to a rumor that the Obama campaign was pulling out of North Carolina, you implied that the President was there to exploit NC and didn't care what sort of mess he left behind him. That's the sort of classy humor about the President we regularly see from RW trolls.
Response to gkhouston (Reply #44)
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dougolat
(716 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Vincardog
(20,234 posts)Say that women and minorities should not be allowed to vote.
You will be tombstone pretty quick
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Why the need to discuss it?
Ptah
(33,024 posts)Sep 13, 2012 Anti-Choice, Trollin'.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=290654&sub=trans
William769
(55,144 posts)Not an option anymore since this person is gone.
LOCKING, if other W&M hosts think this is a bad decision, let me know and I will unlock this.