So what did Hiilary's campaign know that we didn't know when she

[Cleita]

declared victory before it seemed like a toss up that could go either way? At first I thought it was a bold gamble, casino politics. But the Clinton's play chess not roulette. Why were they so sure? Inquiring minds want to know?

[LiberalElite]

1. Very good question - but aren't they still counting? nt

[Cleita]

3. Yeah but it would be a rabbit out of a hat. n/t

[yourout]

2. I am out of tin foil at the moment.

[Cleita]

4. I'll lend you some. I've got loads of it left over from

watching our nation being screwed over in fact in the last thirty years.

[in_cog_ni_to]

5. Sanders camp demanding raw data to be released for a recount.

They believe they won outright....

Coin toss at precinct won a delegate for Clinton when there was a tie.
Delegates now 22 Clinton - 21 delegates Bernie

[Cleita]

6. Interesting. I'm happy Bernie's campaign is fighting back. eom

[cui bono]

8. Did you see this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/43sexj/cspan_stream_clinton_precinct_chair_lied_about/
C-SPAN Stream: Clinton Precinct Chair lied about the vote counting in Precinct 43 and it was all caught on camera.

dorkzilla posted it somewhere on DU earlier.

.

[in_cog_ni_to]

10. I saw that go down, but I didn't know about the clinton chair lying and not recounting!

She has a sleazy campaign.

[cui bono]

12. cali posted an OP about it.

Yeah, she's made me go from not trusting her to despising her and it's all her own doing.

.

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. That precinct conveniently ran out of voter registration cards too. Don't know what happened

with all that either!

[cui bono]

15. I want to know more about that coin toss precinct too... ! n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. Yeah. pretty bizarre, but I guess that's what caucuses do in a tie! as per Bernie TV. news to me!

[cui bono]

24. Do you think that Hillary did the toss and said...

"heads I win, tails you lose"?



.

[in_cog_ni_to]

27. Personally, I think the coined used should be examined!

I don't trust anyone!

[MissDeeds]

18. Same here

I absolutely loathe her.

[MissDeeds]

16. Wow

Thanks for this heads up.

[cui bono]

25. cali posted an OP about it now too. n/t

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

30. No surprise there.

[truedelphi]

36. Have tried to stay loose for the last 48 hours.

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I mean, my stiomach is still in knots from the day after the election, 2004, John Kerry conceding.

But didn't know about the vote counting in Precinct 43.

What we learned about Liars at the Top is that those who have the power to lie use that power, declare themselves the winner, knowing full well that then the Big Bad Media folks, who are after all corporate controlled hacks, will then run with the "victory" the liars gave them.

After all, that is how Bush got his "re-election." (The fact that Andy Card announced the victory at around 2:30 Am the morning after the election gave George W another four years. And Clintons then positioned their guy Carville at Kerry's side the next day. So Carville told Kerry that there were not enough outstanding ballots in Ohio, when that was far from the truth. Then Kerry, the weakest man on the planet, immediately conceded, despite his promise to the American voters that he would not concede until all ballots were counted. But Hillary and Bill thought5 by denying Kerry the election, HRC would be a shoe in in 2008. Karma was a bitch, however, and she didn't get her "spot in history." )

[SoapBox]

7. Just plain arrogance?

So that the likes of Mrs. Greenspan and Tweety can begin say that she won...and then play her phony "victory" speech...that can be foisted on the American people like it's fact.

Ginned up...cooked up...rigged up...

Guess they aren't going to give up, so we have a lot more Establisment ass to kick.

[Cleita]

9. That was not not only arrogant but Imperial.

f-that.

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. Bernie's waiting for ALL PRECINCTS to be reported before calling for raw data release. He's going

to look at results first.

[Cleita]

13. I just so love his honesty and that he has been able to

keep it in spite of the pit of snakes he has to maneuver in.

[RobertEarl]

19. He is something else

In spite of the pit of snakes he has kept true and on message.

Now, I am liking his message of making sure people's votes are counted as cast.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. Bernie is as real as it gets... gracious to a fault. Gotta love him!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[azmom]

28. Amen to that.

[TexasBushwhacker]

17. I believe all the superdelegates are commuted to her n/t

[Cleita]

22. I heard from someone who knows politics better than I do that it's

not engraved in granite especially when there is strong opposition.

[TexasBushwhacker]

23. True. I should say most have committed to Clinton

at this point, but a lot can change between now and the convention.

[dixiegrrrrl]

21. Everyone is talking about how old and ill Bill is looking, behind her.

Maybe he needed to get to bed before midnight or something.

[CBGLuthier]

26. They know the value of a message even if it is a lie.

[Cleita]

29. Yeah. The lie thing and other Game of Thrones strategies isn't going to

work this time unless they cheat and unfortunately our election system is ripe for cheating.

[leveymg]

31. The popular vote never mattered to her. She had 8 supers in her pocket.

So she declared victory and hurried onto the jet without shaking hands, grateful to put the place and the people of Iowa behind her. A signature Hillary moment.

[Flying Squirrel]

35. Oh, please repost that as an OP so I can rec it.

Classic

[Zorra]

33. Polk County.

Polk County is the most populous county in Iowa, was leaning fairly heavily for Clinton. and still had a lot of precincts yet to count late in the game.

She knew this would put her over the top, and so did Bernie.

[Flying Squirrel]

34. Still isn't over

As of 10:06pm PST, and I also hear that O'Malley delegates can switch at some point.