LOL Anybody watching msnbc? They are speechless!! New poll numbers coming

[jillan]

out that Bernie is trampling Hillary's #'s with women voters under 45 y/o and she's only beating him by a teeny margin with women over 45. It's hillarious - it just doesn't fit into their narrative. They don't know what to do.

[CharlotteVale]

1. I'm close to Hillary's age and I was just talking with a friend in her 70s

who supports Bernie as much as I do!

[jillan]

4. I'll be 60 this year and I'm the youngster of a group of women of Bernie supporters.

[roguevalley]

16. me 2. a spiritual friend told me a global change in

Consciousness was coming by 2017. I believe it.

[kimbutgar]

24. Ditto to you both from a person the same age

All I see in the Bay Area and my recent trip during the holiday when I drove to Arizona were Bernie bumper stickers. No Hillary nor trump.

[truedelphi]

55. A close girlfriend will be eighty at the end of the month. I called

To ask her what she wants for her B-day, and she said, "If you love me, donate again to Bernie's Campaign."

And that was a big A-okay with me!

[Enthusiast]

82. Cool story!

[JDPriestly]

64. 72 and my women friends with one exception all support Bernie.

We would all love to support a woman for president, but Hillary is just not right for the job. I feel sorry for her, but tonight she showed why. She is too self-centered, gets too riled and angry.

She also acts too arrogant. Bernie is a kind man. He is compassionate. No reason for Hillary to be so bitter and angry toward him.

She really does act like she thinks she deserves the presidency, like there is no reason anyone else should be running.

Fact is, Bernie is just a really, really strong candidate that we all love.

I so hoped to have a woman for president in my lifetime, but I doubt I will see it. Hillary is just not qualified. It isn't just a matter of experience. It is her personality. She really seems to react very emotionally and to take things too personally and then she has an extremely high opinion of herself.

I feel sorry for her, but I do not think she would make a good president. A president has to remain calm and kind even when it seems the world turns against her.

Obama is the perfect president in this respect. He looks to get the work done and really does not show how much the personal insults and ugliness must hurt him inside.

I just don't think Hillary has the temperament to be president. It isn't because she is a woman. It's just her temperament.

[sarge43]

14. My husband and I are 74 and 73

We'll be voting for Senator Sanders next Tuesday

Maybe we're just young at heart.

[Paper Roses]

19. I am 73 and my like age friends are 4 Bernie too. N/t

[JudyM]

32. Awesome. Please drag all your like-minded friends with you!

[sarge43]

70. We've been talking about him every chance we get.

For the most part the response has been positive. People who know about him like him. People who don't like what they hear.

I think he will do very well here in Graniteland.

[JudyM]

71. .

[Bubzer]

58. I've heard 70s are the new 60s ;)

[mdbl]

110. Tell my body that!

[RKP5637]

76. I know exactly what you mean. Bernie remids me of what we were fighting for in the 60's and 70's.

It feels good listening to Bernie, he resonates well with what I think too, and what I used to think the democratic party was about before it went on a rightward march to imitate republicans - lite. I'm an older Millennial. I'm 100% with the Millennials and Bernie.

[840high]

49. Older than your friend---- Bernie!!!!

[napi21]

53. I'm older than you at 72 and I support Bernie.

I would LOVE to see the attitude of Roosevelt's administration return, which is what Bernie is for. So many younger people have no idea how well that worked. The biggest problem today is way too many people don't realize is that the REAL POWER is in Congress and without aa Dem controlled Congress, NEITHER Bernie nor Clinton will be able to get their programs through into law!

[JDPriestly]

66. We were born during WWII. America was united in the war effort.

I have a sheet of rationing stamps. Apparently they made a mistake in printing my birthdate on them so they could not be used.

Those of us born during the war are really not baby boomers. My husband and I were talking today (both born during WWII) about how we can live frugally and be quite happy, how we save things and reuse and use things and don't throw stuff away sometimes even when we should. We grew up in a time of such need, when there was very little material excess. It was very different from today.

I will bet you that when Bernie is president, he will audit the entire government and find all kinds of ways to save money. That's just the way our generation is. Remember, the war started in Europe in maybe 1939. From that time on, our country was on notice. Not all people realized that the war was inevitable, but some did. And we were just barely coming out of the Great Depression. My mother was a teenager and college student during the Great Depression. She was so thrifty that she made me feel like a spendthrift.

Anyway, we have a different view of the world formed by our earliest years in relative poverty. Bernie is on the same page with us in that respect. I really don't have to have as much money as a lot of other people do to be very happy. I love nature, walking, listening to music, making things, working jigsaw puzzles and reading. I don't think young people today are so fond of those activities although a lot of people still like making things. And lots of people read but not hardcover books.

[napi21]

69. Thanks for your response. I've been trying to figure out just what the big diff.

is today. Things that are so prominent in society that were never thought of when we were young. YOU ANSWERED that question for me. MY hubby & I live on social security, and are quite comfortable and happy too. Then I hear talking heads constantly talking about how seniors who have to survive on social security of constantly worrying about buying food & meds. I keep thinking I must be missing something. Your explanation opened my eyes. I still cook from scratch because you pay 4-10 times more to buy a box of ready to make stuff than doing it yourself. I keep wondering WHO in the world spends so much more to have someone else cut up their celery, onions, and carrots in the produce dept.? A 10# bag of chicken qtrs. costs $3.90 but 2 leg qtrs. in a pkg.. costs $2.19 a lb. You don't have to be a butcher to separate the thigh from the leg and freeze them in usable pkg. sizes.

We still go out for dinner, and other entertainment venues we both enjoy. In face, last year we decided we were going to go out to dinner once a week, to a different place each week, just to try all the different restaurants around here. I honestly don't have much to worry about.

Thank you for your insight.

[JDPriestly]

92. I also cook from scratch and even grow a tiny bit of my own food -- spices including sage

and rosemary, etc. and cut my vegetables. I buy the economy packs of chicken, cook ahead and freeze the left-overs.

We don't go out to eat unless our daughters come and want to go out.

Frankly, I like my cooking with my fresh herbs better than most restaurant food.
Yes. We are an entirely different generation.

Bernie Sanders is closer to our generation.

He is very thrifty by nature.

[PatrynXX]

56. think she lives in a Faux like bubble

where things only make sense to her.

[Petrushka]

79. Three generations of women here---80, 56, & 20---for Bernie. (eom)

[marew]

88. I'm a 69 year old gal...

GO BERNIE!!!!

[Dustlawyer]

97. Mom's 78 and has been telling all of her friends about Bernie.

She has one switched for sure. That lady's son is a Texas Tea Party nut, but after several talks and explanations the lady saw Bernie give a speech and she was sold!

[CharlotteVale]

98. That is so cool! I loved reading everyone's comments.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

2. Are they creping their pants?

[Bjornsdotter]

3. I've have been saying for a few months

...that many older women are going Bernie. All of my contemporaries except for 3, are voting Bernie.

FYI.....to Matthews....I am a feminist. What an ass.

[jillan]

6. So am I - Literally fought for women's rights on campus in college & never stopped.

Wonder what PP & Naral are thinking about these poll numbers?

[global1]

5. I'm Just Hoping That These Numbers Are Real & Not Artifically...

pushed so if it looks like she closes the gap any that they claim that as a win.

[jillan]

8. True, but just the same I am enjoying watching tweety while in a haze of bewilderment.

[ErisDiscordia]

26. They are already walking on a knife edge--I don't think they dare mess with the polls

for fear of discouraging their supporters.

[Warren DeMontague]

7. DAMN YOU, BERNIEBROOOOOOOOOOOSSSS!!!

[closeupready]

83. lol - Yup!

[SoapBox]

85. I need to find a "I'm a Proud Berniebro!" Bumper sticker!

...after poking, I should have known!

http://www.cafepress.com/mf/103290137/bernie-bro_tshirt?productId=1719659051

[Contrary1]

89. Would that make female supporters

"Berniebras"?

[SoapBox]

91. Well! I do have 2 different pair of Bernie boxer shorts!

http://www.cafepress.com/+bernie_sanders_2016_boxer_shorts,1587498798?utm_content=ChannelAdvisor_US_connexity&utm_medium=productfeed&utm_source=CSE

[99th_Monkey]

9. OH Boy!!! Tonight's debate is NOT one to be missed.

[appalachiablue]

10. Had to switch after 'The Red News Hour' w Mathews, now watching Ed Schultz News on RT USA.

Ed covering New Zealand signing of TPP today, Iowa caucus issues, minority voting serious issues, more.

[roguevalley]

104. I love The Young Turks Live.

[appalachiablue]

112. TYT does a great job and I like all the hosts. We're fortunate to have these kind of

alternative broadcast news sources beyond M$M. Chris Matthews' antics are becoming too bizarre and unprofessional lately. Andrea Mitchell said on Iowa caucus night that Bernie winning IA and NH would be a tragedy. The tone of Chris Hayes and others are also more establishment, unfavorable to Bernie and limited in scope lately with new mgmt. I can't watch anymore except rarely.

For rocking smart politics and comedy talent Lee Camp's 'Redacted Tonight' on RT on Fridays is it. Lee occasionally appears on Hartmann's politics panel on The Big Picture as well.

[SheenaR]

11. I'm very skeptical

Of these recent polls. It was a 10 point lead that suddenly became a 20,30 point lead. Is it out of the realm of possibility that pushing these polls on us is designed to make HRC look good if she loses by single digits? Maybe I'm nuts. But I think there's something to it.

[hoosierlib]

21. I think you are spot on...

Underperform and blunts Sanderd momentum heading into SC and Super Tuesday

[saltpoint]

12. Haven't seen the new polling but

did want to say that I hope people over in New Hampshire can give their best ears to this primary election.

I like their Vermont neighbor awfully well. I hope they will, too.

Things candidates say can't take hold without those keen ears listening.

[lumberjack_jeff]

13. Berniebros and Sandersistas. nt

[roguevalley]

105. DUzy!

[artislife]

111. Good one!

[myrna minx]

15. I'm a middle aged feminist woman for Bernie!

[Sophiegirl]

20. Me too!

[mak3cats]

22. Me three!

[dflprincess]

34. And I'm 62 year old feminist for Bernie

One of my aunts, who will be 94 this year, has two daughters supporting Clinton, one is especially ardent. Auntie, when hearing I like Bernie said to me "Don't tell <insert cousin's name> but that's who I would like to vote for." (Auntie's still pretty independent but she doesn't like going out at night so she won't be caucusing. Hopefully she'll get to vote Bernie in November.)

[Lorien]

50. Me four!

#FeeltheBern

[stranger81]

65. Five here!

[snowy owl]

17. MSNBC is whining about it

I turned MSNBC off last night. I hope their numbers do down the drain. Whine, whine, whine. All these millionaires afraid of higher taxes I guess. Every other word is disdainful of Bernie. "Americans like to vote for the underdog" they said. I guess in their minds, we women are supposed "to vote for a woman." I vote issues, thank you MSNBC. So sick of them. Chris Hayes was almost begging last night. that's when I turn him off. They just might turn off their whole audience - small as it is - if they straighten up and sound like journalists again. Well, as close as they can given they've never sounded much like working journalists.

[YOHABLO]

18. My mom is 82 and a Hillary supporter. She said: ''I wish that Bernie never ran".

He's spoiling it for the older generation of Clinton lovers. You know, they read her book, think she's smart and personable. Whatever. Sorry mom.

[FailureToCommunicate]

23. Yeah, that whipper snapper Bernie messing things up. Saying what IS in the punch bowl

Dang young-unds.

[silverweb]

25. My mom supports Trump.

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]At least, last I heard. I refuse to discuss politics with her at this point because she just likes to yell about "those people" (the "others" aka not white).

Hoping she's one of those who comes over to Bernie on the basis of her loathing for fundies, but not really very hopeful. She hates Hillary and Democrats in general (me included, I guess).

Most of the rest of my family is the same, except for my kids and a couple of cousins.

[SHRED]

29. I feel your pain

Lots of us have relatives like this.

[silverweb]

33. I'm sure many do.

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]It gets depressing being the reviled "black sheep" after a while for following what I believe is right. But I carry on!


[font color="purple"]Go, Bernie!
Feelin' The Bern!

[SHRED]

36. Carry on!

[silverweb]

39. Will do!

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]And thanks!

[ErisDiscordia]

27. I know a woman 75, did the same thing--listened to it on CD (umpteen sides)

I'm trying to bring her around....

[passiveporcupine]

28. Can someone give me a link to the live debate

I'm having trouble finding it.

[ViseGrip]

30. this du link might help

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511140471

[tomm2thumbs]

31. might work for ya

[dana_b]

38. darnit! When did this start??

sorry - I've been out of the debate loop today

[Petrushka]

80. ---

[dana_b]

35. woo hoo!! This 50 y.o. woman is ecstatic!!

Even my 57 y.o. registered Republican sister is voting for Bernie. She's having a change of heart - I always knew she was smarter than that.

[silverweb]

37. Yay!

[font color="purple"]Go, Bernie!
Feelin' The Bern!

[MrMickeysMom]

40. The truth... it eventually raises it little finger and says...

ah... Excuse me?

[Old Codger]

41. Same here

Wife 70 me 74 both for Bernie, and several other friends in the same age brackets are all in for Bernie

[tblue37]

42. I am a 65-year-old woman--and I support Bernie Sanders. nt

[bread_and_roses]

84. Same here - and

the Bernie vols/supporters here have MANY older women working for him. And we're ALL feminists. And activists.

[snot]

43. I'm having trouble streaming this at http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-live ---

Anyone suggestions, or online alternatives?

Thanks!

[SheilaT]

44. Yet another senior citizen self-proclaimed feminist for Bernie here.

I wonder how the Hillary supporters on this board skew?

In any case, there's probably not a one of us who wouldn't love to see a woman President in our lifetimes. But none of us, I venture to say, think that Hillary is that woman. And, at the risk of offending the Hillary people who will read this, I think there's a far greater portion of voting for her just to be voting for a woman President mindset than they recognize.

I do know I encountered that quite a bit in 2008, and that was the source of the PUMAs.

[dubyadiprecession]

45. I'm glad we are all witnesses to this...

For the trial against hillary. She clearly assualted him by kicking him in the nuts several times over progressive/moderate, wall street deregulation,special interest, and carl rove type spinning tv ads so the eventual republican candidate will just have to face a Bernie (Michael Dukakis) Sanders in november.

[roguevalley]

106. you might want to subtitle this ... thing.

[BigBearJohn]

46. I have a lady friend in her 80's and she is 100% behind Bernie

She made me smile when she said she will wait for Elizabeth Warren to
be the first woman President

[eridani]

67. My thought as well, which was why Warren was my first choice

When she decided not to run, Sanders seemed the only reasonable alternative.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

47. There are lots of older women who remember a world where a single income was enough.

[monicaangela]

48. I am!!

Let me just say, I don't believe in these polls they keep throwing out to confuse the voting public, however I am enjoying watching this debate and am so happy to see a debate where the issues are discussed. I am for Bernie, and know dozens of older women who are also for Bernie. I know many, many young women that are for Bernie. As Bernie says, this is not just an election, it is the beginning of a political revolution!!

[humbled_opinion]

51. When you hear Bernie talk

You can't help but agree with him.... I think there is about to be a tidal shift in the Democratic electorate... I have been saying for quite some time that Bernie is baggage free, people will start to question why we should take a risk with all the baggage that Hillary has..

[libdem4life]

52. We had a young repairman here today and he started talking about a medical issue...I said, that's

why I'm voting for Bernie. He got excited and said....him too and those he knows. Young, working class people.

[area51]

54. This woman over 45

won't be voting for Hillary.

[oregonjen]

101. Same!

[rocktivity]

57. Still trying to narrate, huh?

Still trying to pass off polls as news? They still believe that it's all about what they choose to tell us -- or should I say sell us? They learned nothing from Clint's chair?

Barely before Clint was finished, Twitter was set ablaze by #insertchair, #invisibleobama, #clinteastwooding. Nobody sat around waiting for instruction from the MSM or the network-connected blogosohere on how they ought to react -- they reacted with thousands of tweets (and)...quickly-constructed cartoons...

...&quot C)onventional" election watchers have been loath to acknowledge that there's new skin in the game: the Internet has given the voters themselves the power to shake their dependence on the MSM and define their own roles within the election cycle...

rocktivity

[warrprayer]

59. Amazing

And wonderful!

[Zorra]

60. Baby Boomer bra Berner checking in. nt

[MoonchildCA]

61. And I'm another "over-45er"...

...voting for Bernie. And I know quite a few others as well.

[Pastiche423]

62. I belong to a group of Veterans for Peace

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There are 12 of us, ages 61 to 86. We are ALL for Bernie.

[jillan]

63. That is awesome!!

[stage left]

68. Female Berniebro here

over sixty. Speechless is how some of these "Newspeople" need to stay.

[Betty Karlson]

75. Male Millennial Berniebro here: looking forward to being in the gender minority in camp Sanders!

All for Bernie and Bernie for all (well, 99% of all)!

[DI Freighter Watcher]

72. Uppity women

I am a uppity 54 yr old woman feeling the BERN

[Helen Borg]

73. Perhaps Hillary can scream LOUDER?

That may fix it!

[Betty Karlson]

74. Oh boohoo MSNBC no longer sets the narrative.

Guess what, you echo-chamber journos? Reality has a well-known liberal bias, and this biased reality is going to hit every establishment near you. It's up to you whether you actually want to report on it or not. Abandoning the establishment or abandoning relevance: the choice is entirely yours.

[freebrew]

77. Is this the 'sleeping giant' finally stirring?....nt

[Thirties Child]

78. 81, feel the Bern, have never been as excited about a candidate.

My 70s friends also feel the Bern.

[Enthusiast]

81. Kicked and recommended a bazillion times! Because fuck this shit!

Fuck da narrative.

[NorthCarolina]

86. They'll be pulling out their Hammers and Sickles soon no doubt!

eom

[mrmpa]

87. Me a soon to be 60 year old female & my 85 year old mom..........

support Bernie. We supported Hillary during the 2008 primaries, but without a doubt supported Obama during the full election. Mom says she knows that Hillary can't win in the November election.

[Babel_17]

90. Our representatives in Washington are, by definition, out of touch

Overcoming that physical barrier is part of the work of getting elected to our nation's highest office. Secretary Clinton does what she can, and Senator Sanders does what he can. While the crowds they draw aren't the only metric, they are an easy to see one, and they do have something important to say.

[classof56]

93. I'm an about-to-turn-78-year-old female

Guess I'll be banned from this group for saying that right now I'm supporting Hillary, but wanted to mention that my 18-year-old son has informed me I should not be allowed to vote if I'm not going to vote for Bernie. I don't take too kindly to my own flesh and blood wanting to disenfranchise me, so I didn't bother to mention that if Bernie's the nominee, he will indeed have my vote. Perhaps said grandson is indicative of the passion young people feel about Bernie Sanders. That's great, to a point, I suppose, but still...

Anyway, I've been thinking about one of my earliest clear memories, which was the day FDR died. A lot of my childhood recollections are WWII related, since we lived in a town where a Naval Shipyard was located, my Dad worked there, and I remember lots of big ol' Army trucks rolling along the streets. Just some idle ramblings, sorry about that.

Cheers, and may the best Demcratic candidate win. Future looks pretty bleak, IMHO, if that doesn't happen.

[Mufaddal]

95. Welcome to the group

Sorry to hear about your grandson's comments. Perhaps if you send him over here we can set him straight.

[raging moderate]

94. Remember when the music?

Does anybody know the words to this beautiful song? I was thinking of it the other day when somebody posted the clip from Les Miserables. But I can't remember the words.

[Whatthe_Firetruck]

96. Hill's mistake...

Taking on Bernie was a mistake for HRC. While the media was squelching Sanders, she could say what she pleased about him, and most people were hearing nothing to the contrary. So hey, it might be true? This time, she brought out all her attacks, and he immediately refuted them. The only thing this event did was put Bernie out there for people to actually hear from him.

When voters hear what he _really_ says, not what 'they say' he says, voters like him.

[azurnoir]

100. damn near 60 here and ya all I'm seeing from my 'age group' women is Bernie

[Doitnow]

102. I don't believe it for a second when

msnbc pretends Bernie's polls are a "surprise." They knew something was happening all along because they have been doing their utmost to avoid even speaking his name since the beginning of Bernie's campaign. It couldn't be more obvious that Bernie's message irritates the 1 percent. You'd think the bosses of msnbc were fining all the pundits $500. each time they inadvertently mentioned him.

By the way, I'm a woman and I'll be 81 in March. Can't wait to vote for Bernie!!!!

[olddots]

103. they should be speechless

freedom off speech has been destroyedwhen news became entertainment or infomercials for the
olygarchy .

[rhett o rick]

107. The momentum of the Populist Movement is continuing to grow. nm

[stuffmatters]

108. Matthews last night labelled pro Bernie women "not feminists"

Predebate interview with Jean Shaheen. This accusation in his question was so ignorant, obnoxious and hateful towards Bernie, that even Shaheen (a big Hillary supporter) was pained to respond to Matthews' wild disrespect for both Bernie, his female voters
and feminists everywhere.

[emsimon33]

109. I bet that Twitty's head exploded!

I must watch the West Coast feed!