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Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:13 AM Feb 2016

Washington Post: Clinton May Not Be Salvageable

[While most of us would disagree with the Wa-Po's assessment on Bernie, the assessment on Hillary is damning--that is if you take the Washington Post as the "go-to" publication in Washington DC. Their analysis of Hillary's campaign is the strongest statement to date (that I've seen) that in fact it may actually be "lights out" for her campaign. But then again, this appears to only be opinion and not based on any factual information. For the Wa-Po to slam Bernie, however, is SOP for a "white-wing" publication. The first sentence is a joke].

Democrats who think Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is simply a stronger-than-expected sparring partner for Hillary Clinton may be in for a rude awakening. While the Republicans have their hands full navigating toward an alternative to Donald Trump, at least they have people in the race capable of doing so. Clinton, however, may be a dead-woman-walking, leaving the Democratic Party in the untenable position of nominating a socialist whose foreign and domestic policies are antithetical to the great majority of Americans.

Clinton’s problems are threefold.

First and foremost, she has a serious legal problem, one that cannot be wished away by those indifferent to the facts. The FBI does not investigate and devote considerable resources for nothing. It does not lightly send a letter stating it is investigating a former high government official’s use of an unsecured email. And someone (whether in the FBI, the Justice Department or some other corner of the administration) does not without good reason leak a story as damaging as this latest Fox News report:

At least a dozen email accounts handled the “top secret” intelligence that was found on Hillary Clinton’s server and recently deemed too damaging for national security to release, a U.S. government official close to the review told Fox News.

The official said the accounts include not only Clinton’s but those of top aides – including Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin, Jake Sullivan and Philippe Reines – as well as State Department Under Secretary for Management Patrick Kennedy and others.

A second source not authorized to speak on the record said the number of accounts involved could be as high as 30 and reflects how the intelligence was broadly shared, replied to, and copied to individuals using the unsecured server.

This sort of rampant mishandling of classified material cannot be swept under the rug, no matter how much Democrats want to believe this is some political fuss cooked up by Republicans. Whoever is leaking the information seems determined to make sure the FBI and/or the Justice Department cannot evade their obligations to move forward, as they would with any staff person who engaged in this behavior.

[Hillary Clinton, blind to her own greed, makes another blunder]

In speaking with law professors, former Justice Department lawyers, former Hill staffers who have learned the rules regarding classified material and former national security officials, I have yet to find a single one who believes Clinton’s legal risk is trivial. No, it is serious, and now so public that inaction becomes difficult for the FBI and the Justice Department.

The involvement of so many individuals raises the possibility, as any lawyer would know, that immunity will be granted in exchange for testimony, tightening the noose around Clinton. And that is just one of Clinton’s problems.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/02/11/the-democrats-dilemma-clinton-may-not-be-salvageable/

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Washington Post: Clinton May Not Be Salvageable (Original Post) Duckfan Feb 2016 OP
Billionaire Jeff Bezos's Washington Post is really laying it on Bernie Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #1
What, the bunk about 'antithetical' positions? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #14
That article is from Rubin TSIAS Feb 2016 #2
Ex-Washington Post ombudsman: 'Fire Jennifer Rubin' pat_k Feb 2016 #4
Laugh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #15
By Right Wingnut Jennifer Rubin... pat_k Feb 2016 #3
I don't care for her assessments of either candidate. SamKnause Feb 2016 #5
That needs to be taken with a truckload of salt tularetom Feb 2016 #6
The part I hadn't heard before Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #16
Yeah, it was primarily a hit piece on Dems in general, but that was an interesting tidbit tularetom Feb 2016 #17
"...antithetical to the great majority of Americans." Downwinder Feb 2016 #7
Maybe this? sarge43 Feb 2016 #12
That article Lazy Daisy Feb 2016 #8
The first paragraph was all I could stomach tk2kewl Feb 2016 #10
yup. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #19
You can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. Major Hogwash Feb 2016 #9
Reads line RW wshful thinking dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #11
I had missed the part about all of the other people with accounts on that server. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #13
Seriously, fuck this author for this statement. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #18
I really wonder if she believes what she wrote. potone Feb 2016 #21
Hillary is unelectable, but not so much for the reasons outlined here Mufaddal Feb 2016 #20
Jennifer Rubin Skinner Feb 2016 #22

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
14. What, the bunk about 'antithetical' positions?
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:01 AM
Feb 2016

Yeah, does seem a bit iffy, given how well most of the things Bernie espouses poll with regular Americans.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
4. Ex-Washington Post ombudsman: 'Fire Jennifer Rubin'
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:27 AM
Feb 2016
Politico
Ex-Washington Post ombudsman: 'Fire Jennifer Rubin'
By DYLAN BYERS 08/15/13
Patrick Pexton, who served as The Washington Post's ombudsman until March of this year, has written an open letter to incoming Post owner Jeff Bezos in which he calls on him to make editorial page editor Fred Hiatt fire Jennifer Rubin, the paper's conservative columnist.

"Have Fred Hiatt, your editorial page editor — who I like, admire, and respect — fire opinion blogger Jennifer Rubin. Not because she’s conservative, but because she’s just plain bad," Pexton writes in the letter, which was published by Washington City Paper....

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
15. Laugh.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:03 AM
Feb 2016

Just plain bad she might be, but are any of the things claimed in the article as facts wrong? Certainly some of the opinions are stupid, but the facts listed, if true, are pretty damning on their face.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
3. By Right Wingnut Jennifer Rubin...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:21 AM
Feb 2016

... spouting crap like the bogus presumption that Bernie's "foreign and domestic policies are antithetical to the great majority of Americans."

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
6. That needs to be taken with a truckload of salt
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:44 AM
Feb 2016

The title is intriguing and might very well be factual, but the body of the piece screams "Democrats in disarray because Sanders is unelectable" and then proceeds to trash Obama for doing the very things he deserves credit for.

Yes it says Clinton might be a crook but that's just about the only part of that piece of crap column that's even remotely true.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
16. The part I hadn't heard before
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:05 AM
Feb 2016

was how many OTHER people had accounts on the server, leaving it possible, and indeed probable, that State department emails were exchanged between those people that were never preserved on State email servers, as was claimed all along by Clinton defenders.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
17. Yeah, it was primarily a hit piece on Dems in general, but that was an interesting tidbit
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:25 AM
Feb 2016

And even if the investigation turns up nothing criminal per se, there is certainly ample evidence of extreme lack of attention to detail and very sloppy management.

Certainly not the tight ship one expects from a chief executive in these perilous days.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
12. Maybe this?
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:34 AM
Feb 2016

The good people of New Hampshire loathe taxes with the intensity of a super nova. Yet, 60% of them voted for Senator Sanders. They may not be the best bell weather of the American public, but they're not the worst either.

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
8. That article
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 05:35 AM
Feb 2016

made me want to shower.

By the time I got to the President Obama bashing... I stopped reading.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
9. You can see the light at the end of the tunnel now.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 05:38 AM
Feb 2016

The tracks up ahead are clear, there is nothing keeping Bernie from becoming the next President of the United States.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
11. Reads line RW wshful thinking
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 06:25 AM
Feb 2016

I don't think her legal problems are that dire. Let's defeat her on the real issues with her campaign, which are plenty bad enough.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
13. I had missed the part about all of the other people with accounts on that server.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:59 AM
Feb 2016

That certainly kills off the argument that only Clinton had an external email, and that therefore there would always be a copy of her correspondence with State Department personnel on official servers. Obviously if both people in any given exchange had Clinton server emails, then no, there would NOT be a copy on State Department servers.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
18. Seriously, fuck this author for this statement.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:29 AM
Feb 2016
" Clinton, however, may be a dead-woman-walking, leaving the Democratic Party in the untenable position of nominating a socialist whose foreign and domestic policies are antithetical to the great majority of Americans. "

potone

(1,701 posts)
21. I really wonder if she believes what she wrote.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:07 AM
Feb 2016

If she does, she is unaware of how most people think. Really, I am getting sick of reporters and editorial writers assuming that everyone else shares their aversion to Bernie Sanders. They are motivated by fear that the majority might actually elect someone who will represent their interests, and we can't have that now, can we?

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
20. Hillary is unelectable, but not so much for the reasons outlined here
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:07 AM
Feb 2016

The bottom line is, half the country won't vote for her; she has high unfavorable ratings and bottom-of-the-barrel trust ratings, and Independents and Republicans hate her. When you combine that with the fact that she's running on a résumé rather than a real platform (hey, Hillary, newsflash: you're not running for Secretary of State), and can't generate even the slightest bit of genuine enthusiasm, you've got a loss in the general if she gets the nomination.

Here's a great electability gauge: if last night was what, her 25th presidential debate? then she should have absolutely wiped the floor with Bernie, yet it was Bernie who drew blood over and over again.

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
22. Jennifer Rubin
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:19 PM
Feb 2016
Jennifer Rubin writes the Right Turn blog for The Post, offering reported opinion from a conservative perspective.
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