Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumMarco Rubio just said at his rally that Hillary Clinton lied to the families of the people that were
killed in Benghazi and no one who lies to the families of loved ones can ever be commander in chief.
So tell me again how the attacks on Bernie will be worse than this?
Now we all know that the whole Benghazi story was completely over blown. Some of us, including me, watched her 11 hr testimony & know how well she handled it....
But this is where they are going to go should she be the nominee.
If Bernie is the nominee, they will call him Castro.
General Election: Rubio vs. Clinton
Rubio (R)
Clinton (D)
Spread
RCP Average 2/2 - 2/17 -- -- 47.5 42.8 Rubio +4.7
FOX News 2/15 - 2/17 1031 RV 3.0 48 44 Rubio +4
Quinnipiac 2/10 - 2/15 1342 RV 2.7 48 41 Rubio +7
USA Today/Suffolk 2/11 - 2/15 1000 LV 3.0 48 42 Rubio +6
PPP (D) 2/2 - 2/3 1236 RV 2.8 46 44 Rubio +2
General Election: Rubio vs. Sanders
Poll Date Sample MoE
Sanders (D)
Rubio (R)
Spread
RCP Average 2/2 - 2/15 -- -- 44.0 44.0 Tie
Quinnipiac 2/10 - 2/15 1342 RV 2.7 47 41 Sanders +6
USA Today/Suffolk 2/11 - 2/15 1000 LV 3.0 42 46 Rubio +4
PPP (D) 2/2 - 2/3 1236 RV 2.8 43 45 Rubio +2
Which one is worse
On another note - the msm got their marching orders. It's now all Rubio all the time.
(hit and run - I gotta run but wanted to get this out there)
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)basically it is based on rumor, complaints of one family and a leaked e-mail to Chelsea.
I support Bernie, but this is crap. so what the republicans will do to Bernie is what they do to all democrats - make stuff up and lie their asses off. obviously a lot of people can't distinguish between the truth and a bunch of people saying the same lies over in the exacts same wording - i.e. the big lie. Used mostly by FOX and talk radio - have everyone use the exact same phrase and people will believe it.
I have tried to argue it, but hey, people want to believe lies, it is entertaining to them, what can I say, if they find a lie they like enough about anyone, you can't fight it, somehow truth does not win. Dukakis would have been a wonderful president if people were not so enamored with the picture of him in a helmet, and the lies told about him. I guess I have come to accept that humans deserve to go extinct because they choose to be stupid.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)The Republicans haven't even started on Clinton. They're rabid against her amongst each other. They've never squared off with her in a debate and thrown it all at her during a campaign.
I agree that the Benghazi stuff is a joke. That's easily debunked.
However, they've got so much fodder. Her emails. Her lies. Her Wall Street connections. Her corporatism. And OMG, the Clinton Foundation is like a treasure trove of scandal and quid-pro-quo deals with corporations. The Boeing deal is just disgusting. The Republicans haven't even BEGUN with her on that!
Bernie has no Bernie Foundation. There's no "there" there! He's been vetted plenty and you're right--they'll call him a Communist and that will be the end of it. They've got nothing.
The Republicans are sitting on overwhelming voter turnout, and Clinton isn't beating Trump or Rubio. It's a disgrace.
Rubio is not going to be the nominee. The Kochs and the Republican Establishment, including Rove--are attempting to do political CPR on him. It's not going to work. The Republican party is imploding and the establishment is running around the like Keystone Cops. What a joke.
Trump will be the nominee. Those bastards with their right-wing hate radio created their Frankenstein base--that has turned against them and is now in the tank for Trump. We like to think of establishment types as devious and powerful. This proves that they are common clowns. Look at what they have done. God, they are stupid.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)she has given plenty of new fodder for the Knuckledraggers since 2008. I feel it will be, well, 2008 redux. It's now an even greater veritable smorgasbord of scandals, bad decisions, and brushes with legality, and certainly questionable, at best, morality.
Also, the social media today is much more developed than 2008 and it has, in no way, proved to be her friend.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)favor renewed ties with Cuba, IMO calling Bernie Cuban that won't help them either.
Mika
(17,751 posts)And what do Americans know about Castro?
Seems to me, and polling, that a majority of Americans want to go there as well as favoring dropping the senseless sanctions.
If more liberals would go there they might learn some useful lessons about socialism in a mixed economy that works for the people because it is worked by the people.
I've seen it up close and personally.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)nominee.
I'm sure they already have BINDERS FULL of money for arms, money for favors and money for access on her and the Clinton Foundation.
And they won't balk at bringing up the possibility of an INDICTMENT. They're already foaming at the mouth to destroy her.
Bernie's "socialist" tag is NOTHING. We already have socialist programs here; our roads, fire departments, police departments, Social Security, Water systems, etc... "Socialist" is ridiculous. It will go nowhere because of his 25 years in Congress and his caucusing with Democrats for 25 years!
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
Nyan
(1,192 posts)And I've seen them do it on FOX. It's complete weak sauce. They got nothing besides that.