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SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 04:30 PM Jul 2015

‘Jesus was a socialist’: Bernie Sanders Excites Previously Unmotivated Alabama Voters.

‘Jesus was a socialist’: Bernie Sanders excites Previously Unmotivated Alabama Voters.

A rally for Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) drew about 300 supporters in deeply conservative Alabama – including one woman who has never voted in 22 years of eligibility.

The event for the Vermont independent, who is running for president as a Democrat, happened Sunday at the Good People Brewing Company in Birmingham, reported AL.com.

One of the those supporters was 40-year-old Elizabeth Hewitt, of Blount County, who said she has never felt like her vote mattered because she never heard a candidate’s message that resonated with her until Sanders.

“I didn’t like either candidate,” she told the newspaper. “I didn’t care who won because I felt it didn’t matter.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/jesus-was-a-socialist-bernie-sanders-excites-previously-unmotivated-alabama-voters/



The video on there actually works...the first couple of minutes are bad sounding but eventually they get it going.

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‘Jesus was a socialist’: Bernie Sanders Excites Previously Unmotivated Alabama Voters. (Original Post) SoapBox Jul 2015 OP
5th Rec for a very important message! zazen Jul 2015 #1
Let's say a poor man and his pregnant girlfriend, who was carrying someone else's child, SusanaMontana41 Jul 2015 #15
DURec. bvar22 Jul 2015 #2
Well...just to clarify...he was NOT personally there. SoapBox Jul 2015 #4
My Bad. bvar22 Jul 2015 #6
I have to agree Victor_c3 Jul 2015 #41
He's message is infectious Roy Rolling Jul 2015 #17
He was not there. This was just a meetup to plan how to campaign sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #30
Bernie won't win Alabama, probably true, but neither will Hillary. n/t A Simple Game Jul 2015 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #3
Please stop trolling this group. smokey nj Jul 2015 #8
My apologies ... I had not noticed this was the Bernie Group ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #10
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #11
I don't troll ... I do, however, read and comment, and ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #13
Just a comment. I understand accidentally posting in a group it happens to the best of us. Autumn Jul 2015 #16
My good sir, I have noticed that lately Bohunk68 Jul 2015 #18
I'm so sorry Bohunk, he can't respond to you. I have blocked him from this group Autumn Jul 2015 #22
Thank you. I've noticed LiberalElite Jul 2015 #27
Well in this case it would be meant to turn right but turned left instead. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #38
I dont' think I was around for those - I'm only here since Oct. 2012 eom LiberalElite Jul 2015 #50
1sbm was trolling in here this a.m. too - grr LiberalElite Jul 2015 #31
Well for sure he won't accidentally post again. Autumn Jul 2015 #32
This exchange has been eye-opening. Bohunk68 Jul 2015 #35
Of course he knew. 840high Jul 2015 #52
Autumn, I was blocked from a Hillary group senz Jul 2015 #46
Thank you. 840high Jul 2015 #51
what was Satan? uhnope Jul 2015 #5
Old Testament? Or New Testament? DetlefK Jul 2015 #9
The Top Oligarch. Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #20
Does he control all the money, every cent? aspirant Jul 2015 #23
Money is a tool, created by man so... Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #24
Seems that people of all stripes are "getting it", that this time it really does 'matter' 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #7
The Sandstorm is COMING!!! Go Bernie!!! Feeling the Bern Jul 2015 #12
Gonna be a Bernami hootinholler Jul 2015 #25
Can't get the video to load. Any pics anywhere? Autumn Jul 2015 #14
This is very heartening to see in Alabama! nt valerief Jul 2015 #19
He is preaching the same political gospel that Robert Kennedy did in 1968 hifiguy Jul 2015 #21
+1,000,000 .... Trajan Jul 2015 #26
I don't think Jews should tell us who Jesus was. El Supremo Jul 2015 #28
Bernie didn't say it, a supporter did bananas Jul 2015 #29
Why? Jesus was a Jew. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #33
So is Bernie! staggerleem Jul 2015 #36
No alert, just commenting that eShirl Jul 2015 #34
And I don't think Christians should tell the rest of the world to follow his teachings. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #40
Judaism was the womb from which Christianity sprang. You should show more respect Joe Chi Minh Jul 2015 #44
El Supremo, Jesus is WAY bigger than "Christianity." senz Jul 2015 #47
Bernie!! AzDar Jul 2015 #39
Wanted MisterP Jul 2015 #42
Jesus would defnitely be accused of being a Communist by right-wing Catholics, Joe Chi Minh Jul 2015 #43
How soon before the other candidates start acting all "Bernie honest," etc.? senz Jul 2015 #45
The earliest Christians were more socialistic than any of us. senz Jul 2015 #48
... and that included land. I think Baranabus sold some land he owned in Cyprus. Joe Chi Minh Jul 2015 #49

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
15. Let's say a poor man and his pregnant girlfriend, who was carrying someone else's child,
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:27 PM
Jul 2015

rode up on his motorcycle and ask for shelter from a terrible storm.

Which Sunday Christians would allow the couple refuge?

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
2. DURec.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:00 PM
Jul 2015

Bernie drew 300 people in Birmingham, Alabama???!!!!
Surly that is a sign of the Apocalypse.



Bernie won't win Alabama,
but I LOVE the fact that he is carrying the message there and drawing a crowd.
Is the dam starting to crack?

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
4. Well...just to clarify...he was NOT personally there.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:25 PM
Jul 2015

This was a rally to organize support...they planned a handful to show up and got 300-350.

As a start...pretty danged good grassroots organized get together.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
41. I have to agree
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 03:03 PM
Jul 2015

It's quite an accomplishment. I love Bernie and I wouldn't show up to a rally where he wasn't planned to be present. That's a great turnout for Alabama!

Roy Rolling

(6,925 posts)
17. He's message is infectious
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:35 PM
Jul 2015

Two of my most vociferous right-wing friends posted they would vote for Bernie, but never for those "Obummer" Democrats. LOL

I told them I agree with them and will vote for Bernie, too.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
30. He was not there. This was just a meetup to plan how to campaign
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:17 PM
Jul 2015

for him in the state. The first one which was organized by Volunteers, and not by the campaign. So it was an amazing turnout considering he is still not very well known there. Word is getting around. He has some great volunteers working to get him elected.

Response to SoapBox (Original post)

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
10. My apologies ... I had not noticed this was the Bernie Group ...
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:53 PM
Jul 2015

I will self-delete; but, I didn't know correcting statements of fact and noting observations are considered "trolling."

Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #10)

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
13. I don't troll ... I do, however, read and comment, and ...
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:10 PM
Jul 2015

generally do not take note of where the post originated.

But an observation ... the post that sent you into attack mode was me agreeing with Bernie ... http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=24106

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
16. Just a comment. I understand accidentally posting in a group it happens to the best of us.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:35 PM
Jul 2015

don't know what your deleted comment was, I didn't see it. You say you were agreeing with Bernie but them post this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251442559

You seem to accidentally post in this group a lot so I'm going to take care of that problem for you so it doesn't continue to happen by blocking you.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128024147#post10

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
18. My good sir, I have noticed that lately
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 06:52 PM
Jul 2015

you seem to have been subjected to a lot of negative vibrations from others. I value your point of view very highly and your perspective is always welcome. You have stretched me. I agree, you do not troll and your comments are usually highly informative. Hang in there.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
27. Thank you. I've noticed
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:20 PM
Jul 2015

1 SBM isn't the first to accidentally wander in here. "Oh, is this the Bernie Sanders Group? I must have taken a wrong left turn somewhere..." - (But strangely enough then they won't leave)

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
38. Well in this case it would be meant to turn right but turned left instead.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 02:37 PM
Jul 2015

But I know how it can happen, I never look at the group before clicking on a post from the greatest or latest page. I guess it is just a habit from DU I and DU II, protected groups never showed up on those pages.

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
35. This exchange has been eye-opening.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:05 AM
Jul 2015

I don't check a lot of forums, usually just a few. So much other stuff to do. I had always merely thought the 1SBM was an ardent supporter of the Prez. Although, of late, he has been not so friendly to various sorts. I try to maintain a semblance of tolerance to all, and at times, you ignore while not putting on "ignore." I see Bernie as a man of my own generation, saying some of the things that we have been saying for a long time now. With Bernie, I feel, it's now or never for a real change.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
46. Autumn, I was blocked from a Hillary group
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 04:33 PM
Jul 2015

merely for explaining how my opinion of her changed over time. I was surprised, especially b/c I wanted to go back in and explain that I think I understand how they feel about her and how some of the things I don't like about her may be nothing more than defense mechanisms on her part.

One person even called me a troll. I had been so open and sincere with them; it just amazed me.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
9. Old Testament? Or New Testament?
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:52 PM
Jul 2015

The devil of the Old Testament, Satan, was a trickster-figure to advance the plot and make God look good.

The devil of the new Testament, Lucifer, is the guy who commited the gravest possible sin. No, not murder. Refusing to obey the authority-figure.




In terms of story-telling, the devil wasn't executed very well. He doesn't really do evil things (trash-talking mostly) and is only declared evil by association, by refusing to be on God's side.
The pop-culture devil is a mix of the serpent in the Garden of Eden, Satan, Lucifer, the beast of the end-times, the Anti-Christ, reptile imagery from other middle-eastern religions, and symbolism from greek myth like the trident (symbol of power) and his look as a Satyr (which were pagan, hard-partying, animalistic f**k-beasts).

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
24. Money is a tool, created by man so...
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 08:59 PM
Jul 2015

Does the top oligarch control ALL the money in the world? Most, not all.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
7. Seems that people of all stripes are "getting it", that this time it really does 'matter'
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 05:47 PM
Jul 2015

One of the those supporters was 40-year-old Elizabeth Hewitt, of Blount County, who said she has never felt like her vote mattered because she never heard a candidate’s message that resonated with her until Sanders.

“I didn’t like either candidate,” she told the newspaper. “I didn’t care who won because I felt it didn’t matter.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
21. He is preaching the same political gospel that Robert Kennedy did in 1968
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 07:50 PM
Jul 2015

by speaking for the ignored, the downtrodden, the ordinary people and the forgotten. And there are even more of them now than there were then. There is an audience for it everywhere, even in the reddest states.

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
28. I don't think Jews should tell us who Jesus was.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:24 PM
Jul 2015

Even if he is right and is a hell of of guy.

He rejects Christ. Just keep Christianity out of it.

I have no hides, so alert away!

bananas

(27,509 posts)
29. Bernie didn't say it, a supporter did
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:03 PM
Jul 2015
Another voter, 56-year-old Peter Stuart, of Lincoln, said the liberal senator had gotten him excited in politics again.

“He’s not just in it for the money or his own career,” Stuart said. “To me, he’s what politicians should be.”

Stuart plans to continue his monthly donations to the Sanders campaign because the senator’s democratic socialist views match his own Christian beliefs better than Republican’s lip service on family values.

“I think Jesus was a socialist,” Stuart said.
 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
36. So is Bernie!
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 01:55 PM
Jul 2015

Not only that ... he put himself through college by doing woodworking projects, in other words ...

BERNIE SANDERS IS A JEWISH CARPENTER!

Anybody think THAT factoid might resonate with the Bible-thumpers?

eShirl

(18,496 posts)
34. No alert, just commenting that
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 06:17 AM
Jul 2015

"us" includes Christians, Jews, Muslims, Wiccans, Buddhists, Pastafarians, etc.

And as has already been pointed out, Jesus was also a Jewish guy.

Do you think everyone in non-Christian religions are members of their repective religions because they "reject Christ?" That seems an unusual viewpoint to me, but then again I don't get out much.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
40. And I don't think Christians should tell the rest of the world to follow his teachings.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 02:46 PM
Jul 2015

Does that make us even?

As an agnostic I support Bernie for his principles not his religion.

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
44. Judaism was the womb from which Christianity sprang. You should show more respect
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 03:37 PM
Jul 2015

for Jewish people. Especially, when they express admiration for Jesus. God does not repent of his choices. One day they will be the 'bees' knees' again in Gods eyes (or the 'cat's whiskers', according to preference)

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
47. El Supremo, Jesus is WAY bigger than "Christianity."
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 04:37 PM
Jul 2015

He would not appreciate being put in a little box (called a church) for people to fight over.

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
43. Jesus would defnitely be accused of being a Communist by right-wing Catholics,
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 03:33 PM
Jul 2015

as Pope Francis is, regularly. I particularly like this saying of Jesus, in Matthew 6:24:

"No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

But Francis, without seeming to mean to be caustic, defines his incorrigible critics (who constantly revile him effectively as a revolutionary, because he follow the church's actual teaching, clearly based on the Gospels), with the most withering accuracy.
He makes his point well in this article in the Vatican Insider:

http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/the-vatican/detail/articolo/francesco-sudamerica-42350/

The following paragraph appears in an another article, among a host of such good articles following his trip to South America. Note particularly the last sentence:

It is this outlook that allows Francis to pronounce courageous words, fully in tune with the Christian tradition. As St. Ambrose said: “It is not from your own possessions that you are bestowing aims on the poor, you are but restoring to them what is theirs by right. For what was given to everyone for the use of all, you have taken for your exclusive use.” “Not to share our own wealth with the poor is theft from the poor and deprivation of their means of life; we do not possess our own wealth but theirs,” St. John Chrysostom wrote. These were the teachings of the Fathers of the Church in the early years of the Church. So the question is not whether the Pope is a communist or spends too much time speaking about the poor. The real question is: why have these teachings been forgotten in the Church to the point that the Argentinean Pope’s preaching appears revolutionary?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
45. How soon before the other candidates start acting all "Bernie honest," etc.?
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 04:20 PM
Jul 2015

'Cause he's got the magic. I can just see the campaign advisers...."Try to come across more plain-spoken, just the facts, okay?" and "Refuse to put down your opponents."

Only, his is real.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
48. The earliest Christians were more socialistic than any of us.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 04:40 PM
Jul 2015

"All who believed were together and had all things in common; they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need" -- Acts 2:44-45

Heck, they lived like communists.

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
49. ... and that included land. I think Baranabus sold some land he owned in Cyprus.
Tue Jul 14, 2015, 04:46 PM
Jul 2015

But I may have him confused with another named disciple.

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