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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 05:10 PM Aug 2015

When Republicans Nominate a Billionaire, Only Bernie Sanders Will Save Democrats

According to The Wall Street Journal, a New York billionaire is leading GOP candidates for his party's nomination. Should we take this poll seriously? Or, should we as a nation view a real estate tycoon known for xenophobic and nativist comments to simply be an anomaly in the polls? In the minds of many people, there's no way this reality television star can win, even though every current favorability poll has the man leading every other GOP challenger.

Conversely, while some observers disregard polls related to Republican candidates, it's bizarre that some Democrats view ever-changing nationwide polls pertaining to Hillary Clinton as gospel. Ironically, while Republicans have rallied around the brash communication style of their leading candidate (conservatives seem to relish comments like "They're bringing drugs" and "They're bringing rapists&quot , some Democrats feel that Bernie Sanders is too liberal to win a general election. It says something about both Republicans and Democrats when one candidate is overtly racist and basks in the adulation of conservatives, while another candidate boldly attacks "the billionaire class," yet is seen as unelectable by certain liberals.

A poll recently released by CNN/ORC found Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) walloping Donald Trump by about 20 points, beating Gov. Scott Walker (R-Wis.) and running in a statistical tie against former Gov. Jeb Bush (R-Fla.).

The huge margin that Sanders holds over Trump makes it clear that America is in the summer of Sanders, not the summer of Trump, cable news obsessions with Trump notwithstanding. The fact that Sanders beats Walker by six to seven points, depending on whether all voters or likely voters are counted -- a near-landslide margin in a general election -- makes it clear that the Sanders surge is more than a surge against Donald Trump, but move that makes him competitive with all Republican candidates.

Most interesting is the fact that Sanders is running dead even with Bush, which means that this poll, at least, refutes the notion that Sanders is not electable and supports the idea, instead, that Sanders could defeat any Republican.


The fact, however, is that Republicans might elect a billionaire as their nominee.

If you think this is merely hyperbole, and the GOP poll numbers are only temporary, then be sure to use such skepticism on polling that says Clinton's lead among Democrats is insurmountable.

Furthermore, not only did the Huffington Post write "Bernie Sanders' Appeal Has Doubled Among Americans Since March," but Gallop confirms this astonishing surge with a recent report titled "Sanders Surges, Clinton Sags in U.S. Favorability." As for a hypothetical matchup between current frontrunners, it will be difficult for Democrats to beat a billionaire with Clinton, especially since the former New York Senator accepted $100,000 in donations from the possible GOP nominee.

In addition, as The Hill's Brent Budowski writes in a brilliant piece titled "Sanders beats Trump by 20-plus points," the Vermont Senator does extremely well against every GOP possibility in a head-to-head matchup:

A poll recently released by CNN/ORC found Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) walloping Donald Trump by about 20 points, beating Gov. Scott Walker (R-Wis.) and running in a statistical tie against former Gov. Jeb Bush (R-Fla.).

The huge margin that Sanders holds over Trump makes it clear that America is in the summer of Sanders, not the summer of Trump, cable news obsessions with Trump notwithstanding. The fact that Sanders beats Walker by six to seven points, depending on whether all voters or likely voters are counted -- a near-landslide margin in a general election -- makes it clear that the Sanders surge is more than a surge against Donald Trump, but move that makes him competitive with all Republican candidates.

Most interesting is the fact that Sanders is running dead even with Bush, which means that this poll, at least, refutes the notion that Sanders is not electable and supports the idea, instead, that Sanders could defeat any Republican.

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Finally, just look at the GOP billionaire's exchange with Anderson Cooper (within the transcript of their CNN interview) to get a glimpse of why the GOP will have a much easier time against Hillary Clinton than Bernie Sanders:


COOPER: You are talking extemporaneously, why do you think Hillary Clinton is not talking?

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, Anderson, she has a lot to hide. She gets a subpoena on emails and she - I mean, from the United States Congress and she gets rid of the emails and her server and everything gone.

COOPER: She said yesterday in the interview she didn't get a subpoena.

TRUMP: Well, I mean, they said they issued a subpoena...

COOPER: But you used to donate, gave a lot of money to her over the years?

TRUMP: Sure, I was a businessman, guess I still am. But I was a businessman. I was with everybody. Everybody loved me. When I called them they always treated me well. And that's part of the game...

COOPER: Is that why you were donating money to people you donated to? Because you donated to Democrats I think in 2006. You gave $20,000 to the democratic congressional campaign fund.

TRUMP: Democrats and Republican.


More here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/when-republicans-nominate-a-billionaire-only-bernie-sanders_b_7923436.html
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When Republicans Nominate a Billionaire, Only Bernie Sanders Will Save Democrats (Original Post) Playinghardball Aug 2015 OP
Great post. jalan48 Aug 2015 #1
With billions to be made selling ad space to Super-PACs, media can't see past the dollar signs n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #2
Nailed it. eom Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #4
K&R..... daleanime Aug 2015 #3
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #5

jalan48

(13,857 posts)
1. Great post.
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 05:27 PM
Aug 2015

It is odd that a billionaire gets so much media traction while a person arguing for the majority of Americans gets so little press. Unless one stops and realizes the media is controlled by billion dollar transnational corporations. "Really rich people, they're just like you!".

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. With billions to be made selling ad space to Super-PACs, media can't see past the dollar signs n/t
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 05:52 PM
Aug 2015
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